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    SB-95 Discontinued...What's Next?

    I was just told by the LBS that yeti has discontinued the SB-95.

    Is there a Switch Infinity replacement on the horizon?

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    It would make sense right?

    If they developed a better pivot that solved the problems with the existing Switch, they would want to transition over.

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    Well I was in my local Yeti dealers earlier today and was speaking to the Yeti rep who happened to be in there too, he told me that there were currently no plans for a new SB95 or a direct replacement in the near future which goes along with what John P. Has already mentioned on here saying that the SB95c will be around for a long while yet.

    Yeti have also stated that they see the 5-6" bracket suiting 27.5" wheels so maybe there never will be a '95 replacement? Still makes my main bike current in my eyes though and it's not as if the '95 isn't one of the best trail bikes out there anyway.

    I wouldn't bet against a shorter travel more XC orientated 29er coming along using the ASR arrangement.

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    Now I'm curious. It seems to me that;

    -Switch Infinity wouldn't have come out unless there was a reason to improve switch.
    -If Switch needs improvement than it would make sense that the current Switch bikes would be replaced or discontinued.
    -It would be really dumb to vacate a very popular and successful market segment - 4-5" 29er trail bikes.

    All the above leads me to the conclusion that a new SB95 will come out, its just a matter of when.

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    SB-95 Discontinued...What's Next?

    I wonder if John P would mind commenting on whether or not the SB95/c is discontinued. I find it pretty hard to believe unless they're really making way for the Switch Infinity and going down a completely different route?...

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    I think the SB95A will be discontinued. the 95C will stay in production until next year when they release the SI. I think JohnP said something like that + it was written somewhere that Yeti will only product carbon frames from now on for Switch technology.

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    Probably going to be a 4" Switch Infinity 29er...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just J View Post
    I wonder if John P would mind commenting on whether or not the SB95/c is discontinued. I find it pretty hard to believe unless they're really making way for the Switch Infinity and going down a completely different route?...
    I would think he would only chime in with an answer to this question when current inventories are nearly exhausted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by okie_calvin View Post
    I would think he would only chime in with an answer to this question when current inventories are nearly exhausted.
    He discussed the SB 66 being discontinued a while back even though there are still inventories and its still selling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LCW View Post
    Probably going to be a 4" Switch Infinity 29er...

    Usually, when a product is as successful as the 95 has been for them, companies usually don't stray to far from the original. Swapping out the lower pivot assembly is fine (Switch for SI), but I'd hope that atleast the 125mm rear travel and killer geometry stay. As well as the ability to run a 120-150mm fork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bpnic View Post
    Usually, when a product is as successful as the 95 has been for them, companies usually don't stray to far from the original. Swapping out the lower pivot assembly is fine (Switch for SI), but I'd hope that atleast the 125mm rear travel and killer geometry stay. As well as the ability to run a 120-150mm fork.
    My LBS said the ASR 29er whould be out this fall/winter and the SI95 would be released next summer Julyish. We'll see what happens. That said anyone want a SB95c for $5200 low miles with Pike. PM me
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    Quote Originally Posted by SicBith View Post
    My LBS said the ASR 29er whould be out this fall/winter and the SI95 would be released next summer Julyish. We'll see what happens. That said anyone want a SB95c for $5200 low miles with Pike. PM me
    Im with you SicBith , I have a slightly used SB95C that I need to get rid of also :-]

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    Quote Originally Posted by SicBith View Post
    My LBS said the ASR 29er whould be out this fall/winter and the SI95 would be released next summer Julyish. We'll see what happens. That said anyone want a SB95c for $5200 low miles with Pike. PM me
    What are you considering next?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bpnic View Post
    What are you considering next?
    I'm not sure. The SB95 is awesome, but I might end up on the SI5 or 6. Yeti is sold out of XL SB95c so if anyone is looking PM me and I'll give you the details.
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    LBS said that yeti only has medium and small sb-95c left in stock.

    lbs had a medium sb95 race aluminum that they sell for $4495.

    At 10% off, I just don't think I want to settle to al when I really want carbon.

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    I just can't understand why they would discontinue a popular bike before a replacement is ready. The only thing I can think is that they are having so many problems with warranty claims that it isn't worth it to sell them. But I don't see too many problems with the bike documented around here. Very puzzling.

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    SB-95 Discontinued...What's Next?

    They did it with the SB66... Not that hard to understand

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    The only thing I can think is that they are having so many problems with warranty claims that it isn't worth it to sell them.
    Why would you just throw that out there? You claim you haven't heard of many problems yet toss out a BOLD statement/question like that; seems irresponsible.
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    SB-95 Discontinued...What's Next?

    It could simply be that Yeti wants stop having to pay royalties to Sotto group as quickly as possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelstr View Post
    Im with you SicBith , I have a slightly used SB95C that I need to get rid of also :-]

    Yeah but from what I've read mine might be in better shape....just sayin....LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by okie_calvin View Post
    Why would you just throw that out there? You claim you haven't heard of many problems yet toss out a BOLD statement/question like that; seems irresponsible.
    Agree 100%... I've only read one tread which had a broken rear triangle. Sure there have been some paint issues, but if you're worried about paint chips maybe golf is a better sport for you. If they discontinue the SB95 it would be based on the price points they want to hit in their catalog, not due to durability. IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by okie_calvin View Post
    Why would you just throw that out there? You claim you haven't heard of many problems yet toss out a BOLD statement/question like that; seems irresponsible.
    Puuhhhhhleeeeeezzzz.

    I think I made it perfectly clear that I had no knowledge of their warranty issues, in fact had not heard of problems. I am only trying to understand what's going on. There's a reason for everything. Nothing wrong with speculation if you are clear that that is what you are doing. If you have other theories, let's hear them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LCW View Post
    They did it with the SB66... Not that hard to understand
    Very true, but that's a different situation. 26er demand is plummeting. No sense making a bike no one is going to buy. I don't think its the same situation with the SB95, or the 29er market in general.

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    I just bought one this weekend!

    I had spent lots of miles on my brothers XL AL, but, I got a L sb95c. I decided to pull the trigger as soon as I saw the new suspension. I love the way the current one works, and it's super clean looking. new one, not so clean, pretty busy. and,
    I've owned a 27.5 bike, for me, the big wheels are just plain smoother and faster.
    sell 'em...? I think you guys should decide to keep em, because the next one is not always better...
    I have owned and ridden lots of 29 and 650b, and the sb95 c is just plain sweet!
    last 29er, Ibis Ripley, this one climbs as well, but descends way better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LCW View Post
    It could simply be that Yeti wants stop having to pay royalties to Sotto group as quickly as possible
    Very interesting thought...

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    Quote Originally Posted by holiday View Post
    I just bought one this weekend!

    I had spent lots of miles on my brothers XL AL, but, I got a L sb95c. I decided to pull the trigger as soon as I saw the new suspension. I love the way the current one works, and it's super clean looking. new one, not so clean, pretty busy. and,
    I've owned a 27.5 bike, for me, the big wheels are just plain smoother and faster.
    sell 'em, I think you guys should decide to keep em, because next is not always better...
    I have owned and ridden lots of 29 and 650b, and the sb95 c is just plain sweet!
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    Congratulations. I agree that you got a sweet bike. I also agree that newer isn't always better. And, I also agree about the bigger wheels!

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    thx, I'm lovin' it!

    I'm a bit systematic about times and sensations, and having ridden a great section of the rim trail on all my recent bikes, as well as the specialized bikes last weekend, where I did a loop on the E29, stumpy evo29 and camber evo 29, as well as other 650b bikes and my full carbon jekyll w/ carbon wheels, my second ride on the sb95 created a new record.

    i see why the would build a 4 in 29er, which it sounds like they are, but as a trail bike, I sure like the 5 in sb. As a fast trail rider on rough trails here in tahoe, i wasn't thinking, "boy, I wish I had 4 in of suspension", and i surely don't want steeper angles. all the gaps and air on our local xc trails I love on this bike, but go 1 step more XC and some of them can feel sketchy. not because of suspension, but because of head angle mostly.

    anyway, I also think they are moving out of this bike due to the patent issues, and I'm not an insider, but my gut is they are trying to get the new bikes to work as well as this one w/o the patent issue. I go through lots of bikes, but my plan is to keep this one awhile, as I loved it 2 years ago (in hte AL form), and have been all over the board, but came back!

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    I'm quite excited to see what Yeti release over the next 6 months. The SI platform looks great in my opinion and has had an amazing introduction at EWS Winter Park.

    Obviously there's a new 29er coming based on the John P instaleak. Whether that's an SB9C (the revised SB95C with SI), a lesser travel version with SI or a 29er version of the ASR5C.

    As a current owner of an ASR5C I've been considering a SB95C for a couple of months. I demo'd a Stumpy Carbon Evo but wasn't impressed. It was nice but I wasn't sold. Getting a ride of an SB95C has proven too difficult in the UK unfortunately.

    Anyway, I'm hoping for an SB9C. Or if they release something else, a reduction in prices of the SB95C

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    Congratulations. I agree that you got a sweet bike. I also agree that newer isn't always better. And, I also agree about the bigger wheels!
    I also agree! I recently built a Tracer 275 up, I did it slowly over the best part of 7 months as it was a bit of an experiment to see whether the 27.5" wheels would be the ideal size for me, having ran 29" for a few years now and obviously 26" before that. Anyway, the Tracer was a great bike and I think it is a good progression from 26, but by last Friday it was sold, whilst it was worth money and whilst I could still recoup my costs. There was no way I would choose to ride it over my Yeti, so it had to go.

    I did my first Enduro on the Yeti yesterday on some real nasty, natural terrain, there was nowhere I wished for more travel, the bike performed like the true boss that it is.

    Maybe it took being able to compare it to one of the best 27.5's out there to truly appreciate what an amazing bike the SB95c really is? Regardless, I just hope Yeti don't lose sight of this and that they keep pushing the envelope of the 29" 5" trail bike...

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    As Yeti themselves stated, 5" and above will be relegated to 27.5. So, the SB95 is history. 4" 29er SI is on the way. I ride in the front range, CO and honestly, I don't need all 5 inches of travel on my SB95. I'm no bomber on the downhills that's for sure. I can see the advantage of a 4" 29er if they can drop the weight of the bike.(i.e. Turner Czar). A 4" 29er that weighs the same as the SB95 wouldn't make a lot of sense to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ridetheridge View Post
    As Yeti themselves stated, 5" and above will be relegated to 27.5. So, the SB95 is history. 4" 29er SI is on the way. I ride in the front range, CO and honestly, I don't need all 5 inches of travel on my SB95. I'm no bomber on the downhills that's for sure. I can see the advantage of a 4" 29er if they can drop the weight of the bike.(i.e. Turner Czar). A 4" 29er that weighs the same as the SB95 wouldn't make a lot of sense to me.
    I'm sure it will be just like when the SB-95 was first released. I'm betting the SB4c will be spec'd with a 120mm fork and there will be a large group that decides that they want to run it more agressively with 140/150mm travel.

    I just want the SB4c to be released today!!! I want to get my grubby hands on a SB-95c frame at 40% off!!!

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    As long as the bike has trail bike characteristics I'm guessing it will be fine although I fear I'd miss that extra travel for the type of riding I do. To be honest the wheel size wasn't the main reason I sold the Intense, more to do with it didn't feel like my Yeti given the differences in the suspension. So maybe a 5c is in my future but again I'd miss that hard charging ability that comes with 29".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just J View Post
    As long as the bike has trail bike characteristics I'm guessing it will be fine although I fear I'd miss that extra travel for the type of riding I do. To be honest the wheel size wasn't the main reason I sold the Intense, more to do with it didn't feel like my Yeti given the differences in the suspension. So maybe a 5c is in my future but again I'd miss that hard charging ability that comes with 29".
    If Yeti thinks that 5" and above is not appropriate for 29ers they are making a mistake. The industry in general is fumbling all over themselves trying to make artificial rules about wheel sizes and what is supposed to be good for what.

    If they don't replace the SB95, do not fear, just buy a Tallboy LT .

    As far as I know, Specialized, Trek, Niner, Lenz, Turner, Pivot, Ibis, Santa Cruz, Intense, etc, will all be making 5" travel or more 29ers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    If Yeti thinks that 5" and above is not appropriate for 29ers they are making a mistake. The industry in general is fumbling all over themselves trying to make artificial rules about wheel sizes and what is supposed to be good for what.

    If they don't replace the SB95, do not fear, just buy a Tallboy LT .

    As far as I know, Specialized, Trek, Niner, Lenz, Turner, Pivot, Ibis, Santa Cruz, Intense, etc, will all be making 5" travel or more 29ers.
    Steve's 100% right.

    WFO, E29c, TBLTc, T29 are bikes I'll be looking at if Yeti makes a mistake with a 4" 95 replacement.
    I use all my travel and wish I had more most days.


    I hope they'll make the Asr and the SI 29ers with different geo/travel to accommodate everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    If Yeti thinks that 5" and above is not appropriate for 29ers they are making a mistake. The industry in general is fumbling all over themselves trying to make artificial rules about wheel sizes and what is supposed to be good for what.

    If they don't replace the SB95, do not fear, just buy a Tallboy LT .

    As far as I know, Specialized, Trek, Niner, Lenz, Turner, Pivot, Ibis, Santa Cruz, Intense, etc, will all be making 5" travel or more 29ers.
    I agree. For me 5" is kind of the low threshold for even bothering with suspension vs "might as well be a hardtail", I'll not buy another bike with less travel, regardless of wheel size.

    There are a number of 140 or so 29ers each I wish was a little different, I had hoped Yeti would address the shortcomings of, say the tallboy LT (head angle is way too steep), or the Carbine 29 (too small) or whatever Specialized (100% of the profits go to supporting everything that is wrong with IP law).

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    SB-95 Discontinued...What's Next?

    Once 27.5 picks up steam, 29ers will lose market share and die off like 26 is now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LCW View Post
    Once 27.5 picks up steam, 29ers will lose market share and die off like 26 is now.
    Not a chance. (And I'm 5'10", and love 26"wheels too.) My 27.5 mojo HD was the worst, for me, of the three sizes.
    The new school 29ers flat out rip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LCW View Post
    Once 27.5 picks up steam, 29ers will lose market share and die off like 26 is now.
    I agree w/ all the comments about viability of 5in 29ers above, and the competition, which is good, but the sb95c is the best.

    I totally disagree with this point quoted. I have owned a 650b, like many here, because it has soooo much steam...., but 29ers are just plain smoother, faster and have more grip.

    I think 27.5 will take over the 26, becuase htey are so close and have momentum, but then 29er trail bikes will continue to improve, like the E29 and sb95c, and others coming out with balanced geo, and people that ride alot on different bikes will keep coming back, because grip, smoothness and speed are really fun!

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    I love my 95. I'm going to ride it until it explodes. I just hope that there will be another 29er that is as much fun to replace it when the time comes. The 27.5 wheel size didn't do it for me.

    I keep hoping that JP chimes in on this...
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    I run car tires into the ground before replacing them, not so with bikes. So, even though my 95 is still happily ripping along, I (we) have a vested interest in it's eventual replacement.
    I'd hit it, but I bruise like a peach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpnic View Post
    I run car tires into the ground before replacing them, not so with bikes. So, even though my 95 is still happily ripping along, I (we) have a vested interest in it's eventual replacement.
    Agreed.

    I really hope that Yeti keeps making a 29er rather than go the way of Giant and jump in fully to 27.5.

    They say that the SB5c rides like the 66, so will a SB4c 29er ride like 95?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecwashere7 View Post
    I keep hoping that JP chimes in on this...
    This might entice him


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    Quote Originally Posted by LCW View Post
    Once 27.5 picks up steam, 29ers will lose market share and die off like 26 is now.
    As bpnic said, not a chance. There may be fewer of them around, but for HT/short travel at least, 29ers aren't going anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LCW View Post
    Once 27.5 picks up steam, 29ers will lose market share and die off like 26 is now.
    The problem with 27.5" is that it is just 3.7% larger than 26".

    The problem with 26 and 27.5" is the tires don't roll over worth a crap compared to 29er.

    Ride a Specialized Enduro, Niner WFO9, BMC Trailfox or Santa Cruz Tallboy and you will be enlightened. Big wheels absolutely crush it compared to 26 or 27.5".

    I had a SB95. It was great but it lacked travel to go bigger compared to the bigger travel 140mm+ bikes and my Tallboy with a 120mm is just as good. 4" is great, but everyone is doing that already, there are so many good bikes for a LOT less money and full carbon fiber front/rear ends as well.

    Not everyone likes/wants 27.5", but the above quote is juvenile, at best. If Yeti ignores the market in their own back yard (Denver) then that's their deal though riders are going elsewhere to buy bikes. There are a LOT of Specialized Enduro's and other big 29" trail bikes on the trails on the front range. Big wheels and big suspension on wide open fast terrain is the next technology advancement IMHO, 3.7% bigger 27.5" wheels is weak sauce and will be short lived with no technology. Yeti has a promising new suspension design though, which is nice to see. Kudos to that.

    Bring a 150mm 29er.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GSJ1973 View Post
    The problem with 27.5" is that it is just 3.7% larger than 26".
    27.5" is 5.77% larger than 26". 29" is 5.45% larger than 27.5".

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    Quote Originally Posted by kknd View Post
    27.5" is 5.77% larger than 26". 29" is 5.45% larger than 27.5".
    FALSE.

    (As quoted from craigsj in another thread)

    The three rim sizes are:
    559mm (26)
    584mm (27.5)
    622mm (29)

    Unless you ride without tires, you need to pick a reasonable tire size and apply it to each. So with a 58mm tall tire, the three wheel sizes are 675, 700, and 738.

    Using these numbers:

    26 to a 27.5 = +3.7%
    27.5 to 29 = +5.4%
    26 to 29 = +9.3%

    It's best not to use marketing dishonesty as the basis of calculations.

    Just 3.7% bigger.

    That is why 650b/27.5" fits in so many 26" wheel frames.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    The industry in general is fumbling all over themselves trying to make artificial rules about wheel sizes and what is supposed to be good for
    Amen to that!

    And don't forget the Banshee Prime in the list of 5" 29ers that flat out rip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GSJ1973 View Post

    The three rim sizes are:
    559mm (26)
    584mm (27.5)
    622mm (29)

    Unless you ride without tires, you need to pick a reasonable tire size and apply it to each. So with a 58mm tall tire, the three wheel sizes are 675, 700, and 738.

    Using these numbers:

    26 to a 27.5 = +3.7%
    27.5 to 29 = +5.4%
    26 to 29 = +9.3%
    Thanks for clarifying.

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    If you compare the side views of the SB5C and SB95C, the switch infinity suspension extends further behind the center of the bottom bracket then the switch suspension. Might be difficult to fit a 29 inch wheel with 5 inches of travel and reasonable length chain stays with the switch infinity design. Giant had the same issue with Maestro suspension and basically gave up on 29er wheel size. Santa Cruz sort of has the same issue with VPP. The new Nomad had to go to a different lower link design to fit a 27.5 wheel. There has been speculation in the SC forum that the next Tallboy LT may use the Nomad linkage. I think switch infinity is a great design, but may not work well with longer travel 29ers. If Yeti does release a 4 inch switch infinity 29er, I am sure it will still rip. Hopefully they prove may wrong and release a 5 inch version as well.

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    Im about a year into my SB-95a ownership, and I gotta say this bike has been awesome. Like fat skis in powder, Ive gone from a very experienced (but timid) intermediate to a full-on charger. I keep up with my ex-racer buddies on climbs and downhills, and have more fun every ride. I know a lot of that is the 26 to 29 shift but Ive also given the Yeti design a lot of props. I thought the bike might be a little over-built/heavy before I rode it hell no, the thing climbs better than my 28# 26er by a longshot, and absolutely crushes the downhills.

    Id be super bummed if they moved away from the 5 trail bike for the 29er platform. Id sure give a 4 Yeti SI 29er a try if a demo opportunity presented itself, but Id sadly go back to the Evil S if that felt too XC. For someone who fits and enjoys the 29 wheel, its frustrating to already see bike manufacturers making arbitrary decisions regarding the style/travel/etc for each wheel size.

    Dang, just when I had enough time on the bike to give it a proper review, they discontinue it!

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    I love my 95. I'm going to ride it until it explodes. I just hope that there will be another 29er that is as much fun to replace it when the time comes. The 27.5 wheel size didn't do it for me.

    I keep hoping that JP chimes in on this...

    I don't know, based on JP's instagram hit, he doesn't like the sb95c anyway. what was the exact quote.... "i actually had fun on a 29er".
    of course, he's a marketing guy, so he's supposed to get us excited about the NEW thing.
    I've ridden lots of the 650b bikes, and All of the 29ers, and for lake tahoe, and my riding style, the sb95c is the best i've ridden. i built my new one up w/ i9s, x01, lev, pike at 140, real 2.3 tires, and it is 27.5 lbs of climbing/descending beauty! when the others came out w/ internal routing, i liked that, but having owned them, I just plain love hte routing on the sb95c. clean, but easy to access and keep quiet. I had noise, and internal routing is often a source of it now.

    tallboy, ltc, trucklike compared,
    E29, great, but didn't climb as well and felt taller,
    ripley, amazing fast climber, but not as much grip in chunky tough climbs, and not even close to as fun and confidence inspiring on the downs.

    cheers from a new Yeti convert to a bike Yeti doesn't even believe in...
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    SB-95 Discontinued...What's Next?

    It's funny but this thread reminds me of the SB-66 discontinued thread, Yeti didn't let us down then and I'm pretty sure they won't let us down with a 95 replacement either.

    I love my Yeti, having a test of an Arc this weekend so maybe I'll be a 2 Yeti kind of guy soon?!...

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    SB-95 Discontinued...What's Next?

    Quote Originally Posted by Just J View Post
    It's funny but this thread reminds me of the SB-66 discontinued thread, Yeti didn't let us down then and I'm pretty sure they won't let us down with a 95 replacement either.
    Seems to me that one of the main recurring topics on this board is "when do we get a SB-66 replacement"? So maybe Yeti has let the SB-66 fans down... at least for now.

    I don't really have an opinion one way or the other (never owned a Yeti), just an observation based on what I have read here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AOK View Post
    Seems to me that one of the main recurring topics on this board is "when do we get a SB-66 replacement"? So maybe Yeti has let the SB-66 fans down... at least for now.

    I don't really have an opinion one way or the other (never owned a Yeti), just an observation based on what I have read here.
    The 6c will no doubt follow pretty soon so I think many questions have been answered with the release of the 5c.

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    Honestly, it seems weird to think that 29" wheels do not make sense for 5" travel??? especially when you make the 95c already... unless the licensing arrangement for Switch is the issue.
    To my mind, 26" wheels are going to disappear except for little kids. Girls and small men will ride 27.5", and taller folks will be on 29", except for those who need really long travel for DH/Freeride or really techy Enduros.
    For the new race/XC bike, I would not expect it to be switch or SI, too much weight for a true race machine, probably a 29" ASR with 100-110 mm would make the oat sense.
    I am hoping the SB95c stays, or becomes a SI bike with the same travel/geo, at 6'1" I want 29" wheels,a nd I want 5" travel for my riding...

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    I mentioned this in another thread, but I was told yesterday at a local Yeti demo, that they Switch Infinity version of the 95 is coming next summer. And yeah I noticed Jenson's recent sales too, which makes sense.

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    Sold my 2015 Giant Reign 650b and picked up this beauty. Have gotten so much faster and its loads more fun to ride. Im not looking back, or forward, for a little while. Ill take my $2900 bike over the new one which will probably cost around $7000 to start.
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    Got the same bike from Jenson! It's been great for the past few months. I've changed a few things on it (bigger rotors, stronger brakes, new wheels). The only thing I didn't like about it was those Race Face wheels. I replaced mine with a set of Stans Flows on Hope Hubs that, despite being 5mm wider, having 4 more spokes per wheel, and (I think 3x) more POE in the hub, weight 20g more total for the whole wheelset. The bike is a beast though!

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    new 29er platform coming this fall

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeti575inCA View Post
    new 29er platform coming this fall
    do tell
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    No details..just that one is coming ..sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by aarondietz View Post
    Ill take my $2900 bike over the new one which will probably cost around $7000 to start.
    This is something the forum always seems to forget. Every thread complaining about yeti ending the 66 has a bunch of ads for hugely discounted 2013 frames right in it. Not to mention the used market. For every bike that everyone loves that a builder discontinues there are 100's already floating around. That goes for hub spacings and BB standards too. To get that new SB5, etc I'd have missed out on over a year of incredible riding and had to spend an extra $1500 or so. A good thing to remember every time the LBS has "new shiny". That and apparently Yeti still has ASR-3 replacement parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpearce1475 View Post
    Got the same bike from Jenson! It's been great for the past few months. I've changed a few things on it (bigger rotors, stronger brakes, new wheels). The only thing I didn't like about it was those Race Face wheels. I replaced mine with a set of Stans Flows on Hope Hubs that, despite being 5mm wider, having 4 more spokes per wheel, and (I think 3x) more POE in the hub, weight 20g more total for the whole wheelset. The bike is a beast though!
    I was extremely nervous about the wheels. So much so that i listed them on CL and PB before i had even taken delivery of the bike. I had some bites but the normal lowball crap. Once i got them i said what the hell and juiced them up with some stans and went riding. Ive ridden some 29ers in the past and compared to my 26/27.5 bikes, there was noticable wheel flex. These have none and i weight about 200 with gear. I must say i am impressed. I had the flows in 26 a few years back and loved them. I had planned on ordering a pair for the SB as well but decided to rock the RF for a while. Sealed up so well and havent even burped once. Changed out the Deore long cage for an XT med cage rear d. Threw a oneup 42T on the cassette and the RAD cage on the derailleur and bam, drivetrain is dialed. Came with a Zee shifter which i was pretty surprised about. So far there is nothing i dislike about it.

    I just cant get over how well it handles for a 29er. Coming from the wheelbase on the Reign though i should be surprised how much more playful the SB is. The reign was painful to change direction on. Ok ill quit blabbing...

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    Nothing new? I don't want to have to buy a Stumpy 29er

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    I saw the new Stumpjumper a few weeks back; not very impressive to me.

    To quote a Yeti rep when asked about a new 29'er"patience"
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    Quote Originally Posted by spjones123 View Post
    Nothing new? I don't want to have to buy a Stumpy 29er
    A Niner Rip 9, Ibis Ripley, Trek Fuel, Turner Sultan are all good 120 mm 29er options. If Yeti doesn't want to sell you one, give your money to someone who will.

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    New 29er coming this fall

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    Quote Originally Posted by spjones123 View Post
    Nothing new? I don't want to have to buy a Stumpy 29er
    I'm guessing Yeti will have some news on this front around Eurobike, seems to be their program for releasing new bikes. I came to my SB95a from a Stumpy FSR 26" - I'm hoping the SI 29er is 5", as rad looking as the gray SB5C, and keeps the spirit of the SB line intact.

    The SB95 turned me into a frickin Jedi out there; I give equal parts credit to the wheel size and the Yeti magic. After a stint in Fort Collins and another in the 'boat, I'd like to keep the CO flag on my bike frame (and keep using the LB rims/King hubs I got for the 95a's 1st birthday last year). Looking forward to the release info - though a little nervous, local Yeti dealer said he picked up a heavy 27.5 vibe off Yeti (and the whole industry for that matter) at the last trade show. People over 6' ride bikes too!

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    I hope Eurobike reveals a new SI version of the SB95C. After selling my ASR5C last year the SB95C was going to be its replacement but I couldn't secure a demo ride and it was too much money to take a punt on. Especially with what looks to be a shorter ETT, reach measurements and the model being discontinued.

    So the SB95C is an itch I've been unable to scratch and I'd like to be back in the tribe

    If not then I like the look of the new Stumpy and The Following. I also know where there's a new SB95C so if it comes up at the right price at the right time then I'll scratch that itch

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    I love Yeti, but I honestly think they may have under estimated the popularity (and sales) of the Sb95. From old interviews I've read, they weren't in love with the wheel size.

    Hopefully they plan to replace it and carry over the "long, low, and slack" mentality, gorgeous lines, and 5 pound frame weight of their other SI bikes. I have no doubt they will surprise themselves again with it's reception and accolades. With the SI, great Yeti geometry, and identical travel to the 95, they will have another absolute home-run.
    It's the only thing that will get me to replace my "old" 95!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bpnic View Post
    I love Yeti, but I honestly think they may have under estimated the popularity (and sales) of the Sb95.
    I can't comment on what may or may not be in development, but I can tell you that actually the opposite is true. We really, REALLY wanted the SB95 to sell better than it did, but a number of factors led to much smaller sales than we anticipated. In the end, there was decent (not great) demand for it domestically but very low demand for it internationally, and this is something I've mentioned a few times in this in other threads.

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    That's great insight Jp, thank you!
    (I still hope you build it tho!)
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    NEW Mountain Bike Yeti SB95c



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    I'm expecting the rumored 29er SI to be carbon only like the 650b SI bikes. I suspect that Yeti has some cutting edge carbon development, more advanced than any of the competition and their previous models, and are trying to keep is secret. With a 5 year warranty, they'd have to be pretty confident. Have to consider the partnership with their new factory, their production yield and lead time, and the balance of supply and demand with current models, warehouse stock levels, etc. There's likely little reason to go alloy, probably since it'll weigh so much to get the higher levels of stiffness they want, compromising the ride experience they want to share/deliver as passionate riders.

    There's plenty of reasons to generate patience out there. I find it hard to argue that any current modernized suspension design in production is better than the SI, short travel 29ers are still hot, '16 Fox suspension redesign rolling out, Boost axle widths (I'm all for a solution that improves rear wheel strength, be it wider spacing or something like Cannondale's offset dropouts), Shimano 11-speed, changing trends in rim widths (I'm shooting for 35mm OD width rims max), innovative new products like ProCore just now showing up. Basically, think of the future in your "dream build" and save up more than you ever have in the meanwhile and get what you want, rather than a compromise. Fight instant gratification. Keep riding, explore, and plan out sort of a "bucket list" with moonshots like Transprovence in there to go along with your dream. Heck, I'd be interested in seeing what Boobar does for the Lefty Supermax to make it a viable option.

    I just wonder about the geo. I'm 5' 7" and wanted something between a Sm and Med ASRc, with bigger shock and a tougher do-it-all-capable frame that's okay to huck off optional trail features (as long as it's not heavier than a Nomadc or V10c). 405-415mm reach, 600-610mm stack, 22.5-23" ETT (don't really care about effective seat angle as long as it's between 68 and 76), 16-16.5" seat tube (put a warning about the tire hitting the saddle if you have to, I want to use a 150mm dropper), wheel base under 45" with 130-140mm fork (trail 90-100mm, HA whatever between 69 and 67). I'd want crank arms no longer than 170mm, stem no longer than 65mm, handlebars about 710-740mm, and enough rise to the bars to stand on the cranks level, almost straight-backed, and still reach the bars with 95% of weight at the BB (don't want to be leaning forward so much that my weight is on the bars). I don't really care if the chainstays are 445/17.5", as I actually find the Trek 29ers I've ridden to be very balanced and versatile with similar geo figures, with the extra length making it more of a forgiving bike you can ride all day and on any terrain, in any conditions, rather than a quickie slash and shred, look good for the camera type. Trek can't be that far off with all those engineers, top performing athletes, history, plenty of money to invest in multiple prototypes to try out all possibilities, and flexibility to deviate from industry standards.

    I'm basically done with hard tails and just want a relatively compact "heavy duty, reliable, versatile" FS bike that's for training, exploring, playing, and general heavy use riding. I'd get a separate more specialized bike for light, efficient, no frills competing (FRO style).

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    Hmm, looks like I'm basically asking for another SB95c, but with SI and the small being a bit longer, hopefully with a front center of at the very least 685mm (120mm), maybe around 700mm overforked (140mm fork). Taming of the cable loops ahead of the head tube a big plus to avoid contact with my knee when pedaling (see Turner CZAR for example of head tube cable loop taming). Stealth dropper routing another plus. Would like to use a non-offset seatpost, and prefer my saddle placement a decent amount forward from the point that my hips want to continue falling back naturally, tilting my hips back from a standing position.

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    Dude if you know every tube dimension down to the mm why not just get a fully custom bike built? I'll bet the price won't be that much more than the SI 29er when it comes out.

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    Cutting edge carbon know-how (balance of stiffness, strength, and toughness) + top suspension system + custom tuned suspension + Yeti aesthetics and pride. Should I go on and list more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John P. View Post
    I can't comment on what may or may not be in development, but I can tell you that actually the opposite is true. We really, REALLY wanted the SB95 to sell better than it did, but a number of factors led to much smaller sales than we anticipated. In the end, there was decent (not great) demand for it domestically but very low demand for it internationally, and this is something I've mentioned a few times in this in other threads.
    Odd, I had to wait 4 months for mine because of "high demand", or so I was told every time I checked its status. Look back through the threads after the SB95c's introduction, and I wasn't the only one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stmpjmpr View Post
    Odd, I had to wait 4 months for mine because of "high demand", or so I was told every time I checked its status. Look back through the threads after the SB95c's introduction, and I wasn't the only one.
    John P. was implying sales of the bike internationally.

    I too have seen signs of its popularity. I know at least 5 other riders that ride the same local trails I do that are on SB95s, but at least half of them, myself included, eventually switched to something less capable like a hardtail, or something that seemingly offered more fun and thrills, since the SB95 apparently made the trails too easy. I don't really see any triplicates (or more) of any other bikes on local trails.
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    I'm on a forced hiatus from my Yeti's recovering from a Labrum repair on the shoulder, but the 2 days before my surgery I decided to do all of the trails at the 3 MTB parks in my area for a 50 mile trail ride. I hadn't ridden my SB95c much since building my ASRc early winter (we can ride pretty much year round in Atlanta area). I really dig the ASRc for a 15-20 mile after work spirited pace and occasional TT in the area, but I rode my SB95c for over 40 miles of my ride that day with the ASRc sitting in the van just for the hell of it. I've pretty much concluded the same thing that the SB95c or an eventual replacement is my #1 bike for all around riding and racking up the miles in better comfort and a 100-120 FS XC bike is no slouch for all day rides, there is just something about that Switch application that makes it easy to endure long rides. Really looking forward to a rumored 29si bike,......perhaps there will be something in time for me to take to Nepal as right now my SB95c is my choice.
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    Like Varaxis,
    I have switched to a singlespeed steel hardtail, and my amazing sb 95c is on the blocks.
    not because it made it too easy, just too much trail work going on, they are taking all the rocks out of the local trails...
    Listed in classified w/ specialized wide carbon wheels, full xx1, xt brakes, lev, carbon clementz bar etc... Large. If you know anyone looking...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stmpjmpr View Post
    Odd, I had to wait 4 months for mine because of "high demand", or so I was told every time I checked its status. Look back through the threads after the SB95c's introduction, and I wasn't the only one.
    Sometimes demand is high in the beginning of a production run and poor later on... Sometimes demand is high for one market and non-existant in many others...
    But if you had any questions about the overall demand of the SB95, note the banner ads running on this and many other pages with online dealers blowing out 2012 and 2013 SB95's... that doesn't happen in a high-demand situation.

    In any event, sorry to hear about your wait, but I hope you enjoyed/are enjoying your bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John P. View Post
    Sometimes demand is high in the beginning of a production run and poor later on...

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    I've always wondered and there's no way to tell but just how many sales does a company miss when people hear that it'll be 4+ months before they can get their desired bike. I know plenty that've walked away from Santa Cruz bicycles due to long wait times. I'm sure there's lots of discussions that go on deciding how much product to order pre-launch but 4 months, hell even 2 months seems like poor planning.
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    Wait times and availability issues are not unique to the smaller companies like Yeti, either.

    A friend of mine owns a shop that retails Giant bikes. For the moderate-to-higher-end stuff they've continually had both issues to deal with. There ARE more bikes in the pipeline, but the bulk of them are by-far the low-end bulk-sales level machines. Getting a well spec Trance, or Glory, for example were few and far between and often required a purchase commitment six (6) months head of delivery.

    I doubt this was the same experience at all Giant dealers, but I just as strongly doubt that my friend's shop was the *only* one that experienced this either.

    So, yeah, it sucks to wait, but for the level of machines we are interested in it's not necessarily something that can be unilaterally avoided.

    Bottom line to me? If you demo-ride a machine and you love it, don't walk away from it, buy it. If you're in love with a machine that isn't readily available then you need to have some patience.

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    Biggest advance they could make at this point is figuring out a way to fit a bottle cage in the main triangle. I say it's the biggest advance because otherwise the bike is darn near perfect, but it sure would be nice to just bring an extra bottle on long rides, or use just a bottle on short rides, or heck, with how light and capable a 29 SI is going to be, race it with a XC build if it's a rough enough course. That is all. Looking forward to seeing what they bring to the table.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bear View Post
    Wait times and availability issues are not unique to the smaller companies like Yeti, either...
    In order to be competitive and keep costs (and therefore prices) low, manufacturers of just about everything these days use JIT, Just In Time production. Or some variation on it.

    The old school way to manufacture was to get your factory all buffed out and ready to pump out product, then pump that product into the warehouse. Then the MFG part of the company turned to Marketing and said, "you fsckers go sell all the stuff in that full warehouse!"

    Turns out that approach is stupid, unless it happens that there's actually enough demand out there for your warehouse full of finished product. If not, and it's a product that obsoletes, that warehouse full of whatever is a liability and not an asset.

    In order to survive nowadays, companies do intense forecasting. Before they tell the factory to start busting out product as fast as it can, they decide how much they can realistically expect to sell.

    Forecasting, especially forecasting demand for a product the customer has never seen before, is a dark art. Underestimate and you lose business because customers don't want to wait four months for the next factory run of product. Overestimate and you will be seeing your two-year-old product being blown out by mail order houses for discount prices.

    That's just the way it is these days.

    Like bear says, if there's a bike in front of you and you love that bike, buy that bike. End of a first date with a girl you like, and she seems to like you: kiss her.
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    To be fair, the blowout banners on this page don't paint the whole picture of the popularity, or lack thereof, of the sb95's wheel size. I'd argue the sb75 was far less popular in statue, and sales, than the 95, despite sporting the super popular 27.5 wheel size, and those bikes and frames are both being "blown" out right now.
    Maybe both frames are just behind the times when compared with the very latest crop of 27.5 and 29ers hitting the market right now by both competitors and our beloved Yeti.
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    I think the "cool and trendy" stuff sells better than the stuff that was determined to be what a wide range of blind testers believed to be best. I think what tends to be kept are great looking bikes that are very versatile. I think what tends to be raved about in reviews are "game changer" bikes that bring about a new category or innovation that move the bike industry a step forward. I think highly agreeable core values wins loyal customers, and familiarity that's improved upon based on their feedback wins their money (even if it's a questionable engineering decision, like BSA/english threaded BB).

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    I was swung by the Yeti demo at Hartmans in Gunni on Tues. I got the demo guy stupid high and he dropped the goods on everything in the pipeline. Holy sh** the future is demanding new shades for everyone. 24" wheels 16" suspension, motors in the seat tubes, ti/nano/ultra high mod carbon/45mm rims/single ring 14spd/mind = blown....I jumped back on my SB95c and rode some great laps and smiled. If you get to gunni/CB Hartmans is riding great and Strand is open.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SicBith View Post
    I was swung by the Yeti demo at Hartmans in Gunni on Tues. I got the demo guy stupid high and he dropped the goods on everything in the pipeline. Holy sh** the future is demanding new shades for everyone. 24" wheels 16" suspension, motors in the seat tubes, ti/nano/ultra high mod carbon/45mm rims/single ring 14spd/mind = blown....I jumped back on my SB95c and rode some great laps and smiled. If you get to gunni/CB Hartmans is riding great and Strand is open.
    It must have been some good sh1t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varaxis View Post
    John P. was implying sales of the bike internationally.

    I too have seen signs of its popularity. I know at least 5 other riders that ride the same local trails I do that are on SB95s, but at least half of them, myself included, eventually switched to something less capable like a hardtail, or something that seemingly offered more fun and thrills, since the SB95 apparently made the trails too easy. I don't really see any triplicates (or more) of any other bikes on local trails.
    Holy freakin moly, this is my #1 complaint. Not just about my SB95C, but my Pivot M6 as well. The M6 is now for sale. I don't think I will part with my 95C for a long time. What really sucks is I did end of purchasing a Titanium hardtail (Carver ti 420), built it up with the 160 fork & 650B wheels (Light Cycle 38mm wide rims) from my Pivot M6. The bike was so amazing & capable in this iteration I decided to race my buddy on his Ibis Mojo SL (WIth 160 fork on it) down the gnarliest descent we have in my area. When I got to the bottom of the decent i could barely pedal due to back pain.

    I now can't ride at all because it feels like I have a bulging disc in my lower back. Luckily my HMO insurance wait is almost here & I get to see the specialist who can order an MRI & I can at least find out what is going on.

    Anyway back to the post I just think it is hilarious that I was not the only one woth this gripe. The SB95C built up the way I built mine is the most capable descender I have ridden as a 29er w/130 travel. I was bummed to see it discontinued, heartbroken when it showed up on "Chainlove" (Almost like seeing your old girlfiriend in the centerfold of a nudie mag), but still so curious to see what replaces it.
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    https://instagram.com/p/336vjHQXnA/

    Bike mag said "models" as in plural

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    This could explain the multiple models, YetiBeti SB5c and ASRc racked up for the Beti Bike Bash.

    https://instagram.com/p/34zZtiSlWA/

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    I might be reading too much into this...It might be wishful thinking...but is this the SI 29er I've been waiting for:

    https://instagram.com/p/5nCNMBhvyz/

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    Hope they bring it back as I love mine. No love for replacing all seven bearings after just over a year of riding though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingofbiscuits View Post
    I might be reading too much into this...It might be wishful thinking...but is this the SI 29er I've been waiting for:

    https://instagram.com/p/5nCNMBhvyz/
    I blew that picture up on my monitor and it sure looks like what most of us in this thread are waiting for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bpnic View Post
    I blew that picture up on my monitor and it sure looks like what most of us in this thread are waiting for.
    One can hope! Has it been Yeti's style in the past to drop little hints like this in the past?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpnic View Post
    I blew that picture up on my monitor and it sure looks like what most of us in this thread are waiting for.
    It's looking that way bpnic. Looking forward to seeing further press releases, close-ups and the numbers, both geo and cost, now.

    Just wondering if they'll save it for Eurobike and release details before.

    My money is waiting...just hope they do it in black

    One can hope! Has it been Yeti's style in the past to drop little hints like this in the past?
    Yep, think John P released a sneaky shot of the ASRc prior to it's release

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    Quote Originally Posted by montananate View Post
    One can hope! Has it been Yeti's style in the past to drop little hints like this in the past?
    Not really. I always thought they were really tight lipped on most things. So much so, that it may leave me to doubt my eyes.

    But, that particular pic, with a strange new color and Joey's description, leave me with hope!
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