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    New question here. SB-95 Custom Colours?

    I've always wanted a Yeti, and for some reason, the turquoise has always attracted me too. Anyway, I'm finally going to pull the trigger next year and get a SB-95, but I'm not terribly keen on the Silver or Black options. I have heard rumours that if you ask Yeti nicely enough, they will come to the party and give you a custom paint job for the right price. Has anyone else heard these rumours and more importantly, do you have any leads on how I can go about trying to get a Turquoise SB-95?

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    Man, I wish we could offer a service like this, but the truth is that it would be incredibly expensive. Basically, you would have to pay for someone's time to personally babysit your frame all the way through the manufacturing process, not to mention the time associated with having the factory reconfigure all of their painting setups just for your particular frame.

    In the end, it would likely be much much cheaper to just have the frame sandblasted and repainted on your own, and this is why we don't offer any custom paint options. In the old days when we were doing tiny production runs in house, this sort of thing was probably likely. Nowadays, with us shipping thousands of frames all over the world, it's just not feasible.

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    So when will all the specs be on the website?

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    Cheers John, I suppose I'll just get a black one then. Thankyou.

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    We're just waiting on photos to take the new SB95 page live. In the meantime, what information are you looking for? Build kit specs or geometry? I'll do my best to post it up here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John P. View Post
    We're just waiting on photos to take the new SB95 page live. In the meantime, what information are you looking for? Build kit specs or geometry? I'll do my best to post it up here.
    I'm looking for the specs for the 2012 SB-66s. I expect geometry is the same but I am looking for the 3X10 Shimano XT build-model specs. Thanks.

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    Black and silver are going to be the only colors for the SB-95?


    Makes little sense. Why the hell would anyone want a bike that wasn't turquoise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John P. View Post
    We're just waiting on photos to take the new SB95 page live. In the meantime, what information are you looking for? Build kit specs or geometry? I'll do my best to post it up here.

    Build kits & geo would be great!

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    SB66 XT Kit (Fox 32/Fox 36)

    FORK: FOX 32 F150 FIT RLC KASHIMA QR/FOX 36 150 FIT RLC KASHIMA 20
    SHOCK: FACTORY RP23
    HEADSET: CANE CREEK
    CRANKSET: SHIMANO XT (24-32-42)
    FRONT DER: SHIMANO XT DIRECT MOUNT
    REAR DER: SHIMANO XT 10SPD
    SHIFTERS: SHIMANO XT 10SPD
    CASSETTE: SHIMANO 10SPD
    CHAIN: SHIMANO 10SPD
    WHEELS: DT SWISS X1600 TBLS RDY F-15/R-12 / DT SWISS 350/E530 F-20/R-12
    TIRES: SCHWALBE
    BRAKES/LEVERS: SHIMANO XT R-160/F-180
    HANDLEBAR: EASTON HAVEN CARBON
    STEM: THOMSON X4
    GRIPS: YETI LOCK-ON
    SADDLE: WTB YETI BRANDED
    SEATPOST: THOMSON ELITE
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    Here's the SB95 geometry with a Fox 34 120 fork.


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    Here are the SB95 Enduro Build specs:
    FORK: FOX F29 34-120 FIT RLC KASHIMA 15
    SHOCK: FACTORY RP23
    HEADSET: CANE CREEK
    CRANKSET: SRAM S100 (22-33-44)
    FRONT DER: SRAM X-7 DIRECT MOUNT
    REAR DER: SRAM X-9 10SPD
    SHIFTERS: SRAM X-7 10SPD
    CASSETTE: SRAM 10SPD
    CHAIN: SRAM 10SPD
    WHEELS: DT SWISS 350/XR400 F-15/R-QR
    TIRES: SCHWALBE
    BRAKES/LEVERS: AVID ELIXIR 5
    HANDLEBAR: TRUVATIV T20
    STEM: TRUVATIV T20
    GRIPS: YETI LOCK-ON
    SADDLE: WTB
    SEATPOST: TRUVATIV T20
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    SB95 XT Kit:
    FORK: FOX F29 34-120 FIT RLC KASHIMA 15
    SHOCK: FACTORY RP23
    HEADSET: CANE CREEK
    CRANKSET: SHIMANO XT (24-32-42)
    FRONT DER: SHIMANO XT
    REAR DER: SHIMANO XT 10SPD
    SHIFTERS: SHIMANO XT 10SPD
    CASSETTE: SHIMANO 10SPD
    CHAIN: SHIMANO 10SPD
    WHEELS: DT SWISS 350/XR400 F-15/R-12
    TIRES: SCHWALBE
    BRAKES/LEVERS: SHIMANO XT
    HANDLEBAR: EASTON HAVEN CARBON
    STEM: THOMSON X4
    GRIPS: YETI LOCK-ON
    SADDLE: WTB YETI BRANDED
    SEATPOST: THOMSON ELITE
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    SB95 XTR Kit:
    FORK: FOX F29 34-120 FIT RLC KASHIMA 15
    SHOCK: FACTORY RP23
    HEADSET: CHRIS KING
    CRANKSET: SHIMANO XTR (26-38)
    FRONT DER: SHIMANO XTR
    REAR DER: SHIMANO XTR 10SPD
    SHIFTERS: SHIMANO XTR 10SPD
    CASSETTE: SHIMANO XTR 10SPD
    CHAIN: SHIMANO XTR 10SPD
    WHEELS: DT SWISS 350/XR400 F-15/R-12
    TIRES: SCHWALBE
    BRAKES/LEVERS: SHIMANO XTR TRAIL
    HANDLEBAR: EASTON HAVEN CARBON
    STEM: THOMSON X4
    GRIPS: YETI LOCK-ON
    SADDLE: WTB YETI BRANDED
    SEATPOST: THOMSON ELITE
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    Have a good weekend guys. I'm off till Monday.

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    I have to say that I am a bit dissapointed that the kit includes and geometry is based around the Fox 34 at only 120mm. What is the geo with a Fox 34 at its standard 140mm length?

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    You got that right. Turquoise is the best
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    Quote Originally Posted by smithrider View Post
    I have to say that I am a bit dissapointed that the kit includes and geometry is based around the Fox 34 at only 120mm. What is the geo with a Fox 34 at its standard 140mm length?

    I was also hoping for 140mm front. I can't see the geo number chart. Build kits look really nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joules View Post


    Makes little sense. Why the hell would anyone want a bike that wasn't turquoise?

    This.. buying a non team colored Yeti is like buying a non red ferarri, It happens but It doesnt make sense.. I want people in the bike world to know my brand loyalty the second they see me flying around a corner without having to see the name on the downtube..


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    FWIW, the Fox 34 120 can be converted to a 140 in about 10 minutes.

    We chose the 120 because a ton of market research indicated that a 120 would be better received. I don't have the exact geo numbers for a 140, but figure it will be about a degree slacker and roughly half an inch higher at the BB.
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    When will the be available?

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    Thanks a bunch for that info John

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    Quote Originally Posted by John P. View Post
    FWIW, the Fox 34 120 can be converted to a 140 in about 10 minutes.

    We chose the 120 because a ton of market research indicated that a 120 would be better received. I don't have the exact geo numbers for a 140, but figure it will be about a degree slacker and roughly half an inch higher at the BB.
    I'd be curious to know how the bike rides at 140mm. Would love to see them in Yeti Turquoise! Thanks for all the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swan3609 View Post
    This.. buying a non team colored Yeti is like buying a non red ferarri, It happens but It doesnt make sense.
    Ferrari's most popular color is silver. It is only known for red in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigsj View Post
    Ferrari's most popular color is silver. It is only known for red in the US.

    Fair enough. Shows what I know :-) Still every yeti needs to be offered in yeti blue ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by John P. View Post
    FWIW, the Fox 34 120 can be converted to a 140 in about 10 minutes.

    We chose the 120 because a ton of market research indicated that a 120 would be better received. I don't have the exact geo numbers for a 140, but figure it will be about a degree slacker and roughly half an inch higher at the BB.
    I appreciate the reply and the information regarding the 140 conversion. I was planning on getting one of these to supplement my Big Top and Uzzi but unfortunatley, the higher BB with the 140mm setting might push me to the Big S's 29er evo. I can't believe I just wrote this but the geo on that bike is spot on for a trail 29er - low and slack with a 140mm fork. I will definitely test ride a sb95 alongside the SJ evo though before making that difficult decision as I would love to support Yeti over the dark side. Cheers!

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    Why after all the years is the Yeti Blue so hard to get? ...for any Yeti bike.

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    Nooooooooo!!!!

    24.9" Top Tube on the XL??

    That's a L by most standards! Is that the final word? It would be a showstopper for me.

    My 575 and Big Top are 25.6" and 25.8", what happened? Effectively there there's no XL SB95, only S, SM, LM and L!

    I've ridden both the 575 and Big Top in L (25" and 24.8"), just too cramped for me

    Please say it ain't so!

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    Is that geometry chart correct?

    Based on the one below I was starting to find the SB-95 quite appealing…but not anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EGF168 View Post
    Is that geometry chart correct?

    Based on the one below I was starting to find the SB-95 quite appealing…but not anymore.
    A nice looking bike....

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    Yowza. Lots of excited reactions here. Let me try to explain.

    When we design a bike, we make it very specific to the application. Because of that, we didn't just stretch out the SB66 design to accommodate the 29" wheel; we completely redesigned the frame and kinematics to give a ride that would work well for the shorter travel and intended purpose of the bike. Among many other things, this required relocating the position of the Switch mechanism, which also caused the seat tube to move forward relative to the position of the SB66 ST.

    Because the ST is offset forward relative to the BB, you can run your seat further back on the rails to get a longer cockpit, or you can run a layback post. This will get you closer (or to the same location) to when the ST is centered at the BB (HT-BB values, 26” TT for XL). With a layback post or seat further back on the rails you get the extra TT length, but you are not positioned way over your back wheel like you would be if the ST was at the BB.

    Another possible solution to this conundrum would be to keep the same ST offset and just lengthen your TT length, but then your front center gets huge. It’s a balance of ST/Tire clearance (CS length, total travel), front center length, and TT length. With 5” of travel and 29" wheels there has to be a compromise somewhere. In our case we did not want crazy long CS lengths and less travel like some other designers are utilizing; we think those bikes ride like crap. Another solution could have been to add a bend in our ST to make it slacker, but then you run into issues with seat post insertion depth. In the end, we think our design solves the most problems and makes for the best bike.

    I'd love to get more into detail on all of this, but I think you guys get the gist, and honestly, replying to message board posts is a tiny part of my job. I'll leave you all to discuss the rest of this stuff amongst yourselves, and I'll get back to trying to sell bikes to Timbuktu.

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    P.S. Official Geo with a Fox 34 140:
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    Thanks for the Geo. Didn't raise the BB as much as I thought. Still a bit concerned about head angle being too slack for a trail 29er. Will you have demos available at both 120 and 140?

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    I am hoping that Yeti will expand the SB-95 colors on the aluminum bikes and more importantly on the carbon bikes. I want a carbon 95 in turquoise or lime

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    Custom powder coat colors were available back when I bought my Pro FRO in 92. IIRC,for $150 up charge, and you could choose main color, dart color, and the color of the line separating the two. Could also get custom geometry for a bigger up charge.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails SB-95 Custom Colours?-img_1846.jpg  


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    John, thanks for explaining the geometry... I tend to look at effective top tube length as the end-all-be-all in terms of whether a bike can fit me, but that's probably not the way to go about it, as there's a lot more going on than most people (myself included) realize... hoping to hop on a '95 in 2012 !

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    Thank you John, I really appreciate your detailed reply, that all makes sense to me!

    But it makes me wonder why the SB95 (from the pics that I have seen) is specced with an in-line post, that must feel a bit strange. It didn't look like the saddle was pushed back.

    It also eliminates the RockShox Reverb Seatpost (which I love dearly on my 575) as an option for me, moving the saddle in the rails is not a good idea for my size/weight.

    So far I'm managing without the Reverb on my SS Big Top, I'll just have to ride the SB95 and see ....

    Apologies to the OP for going off topic here.

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    John,

    Curious if the geo changed from the demo bikes we have all been reading and getting excited about. The numbers are different to what was published earlier (referred to in a link above which shows the bike in white/turquoise), though I am sure that was not official. i.e. Are these numbers the same as those used on the demo bikes at Interbike, and the subsequent test rides we have all been reading? I kept hearing people talk about the long top tube combined with shorter stems. Even has become a bit of a debate in certain circles. These new numbers look more like Pivot/Santa Cruz/Ibis type numbers. The earlier numbers on the M frame was an ETT of 24.1 which is a full size difference now.

    Can you tell us how much the centerline of the seat tube deviates from the centerline of the BB? This might help to know how much of a layback to consider.

    Hard to plunk down cash in advance if the geo has changed from reviews to production. Many shops are pushing the pre-order due to availability, and no subsequent reviews are out that I can find.

    Thanks for posting this stuff up here by the way. I think you know as well as a lot of us here that this format is a big part of the pre-sell. Maybe not quite as big as the Timbuktu market though.
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    Looks promising.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwing_ding View Post
    John,

    Curious if the geo changed from the demo bikes we have all been reading and getting excited about. The numbers are different to what was published earlier (referred to in a link above which shows the bike in white/turquoise), though I am sure that was not official. i.e. Are these numbers the same as those used on the demo bikes at Interbike, and the subsequent test rides we have all been reading? I kept hearing people talk about the long top tube combined with shorter stems. Even has become a bit of a debate in certain circles. These new numbers look more like Pivot/Santa Cruz/Ibis type numbers. The earlier numbers on the M frame was an ETT of 24.1 which is a full size difference now.

    Can you tell us how much the centerline of the seat tube deviates from the centerline of the BB? This might help to know how much of a layback to consider.

    Hard to plunk down cash in advance if the geo has changed from reviews to production. Many shops are pushing the pre-order due to availability, and no subsequent reviews are out that I can find.

    Thanks for posting this stuff up here by the way. I think you know as well as a lot of us here that this format is a big part of the pre-sell. Maybe not quite as big as the Timbuktu market though.
    RE: Geometry - the geo on the demos has not changed for production.
    RE: Relative length of the TT. The 66 and the 95 were designed for completely different uses. As I mentioned earlier, all of our bikes are designed for certain types of riding; accordingly, we don't just stretch a 66 out to make a 95. We start from scratch and design geo that makes sense for the purpose intended.
    RE: centerline deviation, I'll have to talk to the bike's main designer (who's in Asia for the next 3 weeks) and get back to you.

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    Hey John, I think people are confused because most have been working off the geo chart that EGF posted above. 26" seems about right for an XL 29er, which should cover the taller riders out there who really notice the difference in fit. 25" is pretty darn short and there are no layback dropper posts out there so that 'fix' is off the table. Unless you have a 140mm stem laying around. Personally, at 6'6" I was hoping for a slack bike with a long top tub so I could use a short stem and wide bars. Oh well, looks like the SB95 is off my wish list . . .

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    Have there been any photos of an SB-95 in black?

    I've only seen the silver version.

    I wonder if it will be similar to the -66 in black - with the low-key decals.

    That'd be classy.

    I'm way curious as I've been informed recently that a '95 is scheduled to arrive in my household this year.

    ;^)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bear View Post
    I'm way curious as I've been informed recently that a '95 is scheduled to arrive in my household this year.
    I thought they were scheduled to be released in March or something?

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    Hello John,
    Thnaks for all the info and the time to answer all the peeps questions. I like all the info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tedlove View Post
    I thought they were scheduled to be released in March or something?
    Production '95s are not out AFAIK, but nobody said that there were no black ones in the demo/whatever fleet ... there may not be and I'd not be surprised if they're all silver but as I don't have access to any I can't say, so I asked.

    Sometime this spring I'm sure we'll see some great pixels. I doubt mine will come from the first batch, but one can hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John P. View Post
    FWIW, the Fox 34 120 can be converted to a 140 in about 10 minutes.

    We chose the 120 because a ton of market research indicated that a 120 would be better received. I don't have the exact geo numbers for a 140, but figure it will be about a degree slacker and roughly half an inch higher at the BB.
    John P.

    Sorry to reanimate an old thread but... I have not been able to find the specifics of this conversion on Fox's website. I did find something similar that talks about converting a 32 Float using spacers.

    Not able to link but here is the website :
    // service dot foxracingshox dot com/consumers/Content/Service/QuickTech/FFloatAirSpgTravelAdj dot htm

    Does this work the same on the 34's or is there something different that needs to be done? Thanks.

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    I'd guess the process is identical to changing/removing spacers on a 32. Release air pressure, screw off top cap, loosen shaft at bottom, pop up using a dowel and let oil drain out of the bottom, drain oil from top, pop up shaft, remove spacer, push shaft back in, replace oil in top and bottom, etc. Grossly oversimplified. I had never done this and converted my f29 from 80 (sheesh!) to 100 mm and it was easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John P. View Post
    FWIW, the Fox 34 120 can be converted to a 140 in about 10 minutes.

    We chose the 120 because a ton of market research indicated that a 120 would be better received. I don't have the exact geo numbers for a 140, but figure it will be about a degree slacker and roughly half an inch higher at the BB.
    Quote Originally Posted by hjulier View Post
    I'd guess the process is identical to changing/removing spacers on a 32. Release air pressure, screw off top cap, loosen shaft at bottom, pop up using a dowel and let oil drain out of the bottom, drain oil from top, pop up shaft, remove spacer, push shaft back in, replace oil in top and bottom, etc. Grossly oversimplified. I had never done this and converted my f29 from 80 (sheesh!) to 100 mm and it was easy.
    Hjulier,

    Thanks for the reply. I talked with John P. and he said the 2012s can be converted but they are changing the 2013s. I called my LBS and they were clueless. I sent an email to Fox asking how since I did not see it on their website. When I get a link on Fox's website, I will share. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon Reef View Post
    Hjulier,

    Thanks for the reply. I talked with John P. and he said the 2012s can be converted but they are changing the 2013s. I called my LBS and they were clueless. I sent an email to Fox asking how since I did not see it on their website. When I get a link on Fox's website, I will share. Thanks.
    Interesting. I still don't see why the 2013 CTD Float stuff can't be converted just as easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    Interesting. I still don't see why the 2013 CTD Float stuff can't be converted just as easily.
    Agree, have not heard what all the changes will be for 2013 for Fox. Will have to do some digging and come back with what I find. Still find it strange they do not call out 34 mm F29s being able to be converted on the Fox website.

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    ^ It's mentioned under the tech manual part of the site. Even provide a step by step on lowering travel.
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