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    I did it. I raced on a 575, it can be done...

    Ok, so I didn't podium or anything but I did beat my best time on that trail. I did pass a lot of guys who were riding lighter bikes. And all in all I would say that it was a blast racing on a 575.

    Could I have done better on a lighter race bike? Maybe, marginally but not enough to make a difference really. The Yeti just ate up the trail and I think that gave me more energy.

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    Congrats iviguy! What type of race and course was it? Way to represent for the 575 crowd...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSD303
    Congrats iviguy! What type of race and course was it? Way to represent for the 575 crowd...
    It was an 8 mile course through tight technical singletrack. I ride the course all the time as it's very close to my house. An 8 mile course doesn't sound like much but it's a pretty challenging course. The fastest beginner in my class was about 40 minutes and I was about 9 minutes behind that with the slowest in my class being about 71 minutes.

    Oddly enough, while I'm sitting there at the start waiting on them to line us up to go some guy pulls up next to me on a black Yeti 575 with a Fox 36 and a DHX Air. Suddenly I was feeling like I had nice light race bike... LOL...

    If I would have had a light racer type bike I might have been able to shave off a minute, maybe. But it's a toss up. I definately didn't feel like I was on a hog though.

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    Did Iviguy tell you all that this was for over the Over-60-and Back-to-Biking Club? You ought to be ashamed of yourself....





















    Kidding, of course- way to go. That 575 can run pretty hard if needed

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    Way to go, Iviguy!

    575 race machine!

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    So how did you run it? Did you firm up the suspension or run locked out? I've had my 575 going pretty fast here lately, it really likes to go fast through the rock gardens especially. I'm even getting the hang of the switchback turns going uphill. One thing I've noticed, if you hit a big root going uphill you better have some speed or the momentum stops. Is that the single pivot design at work or do they all do that?
    What, me hurry?

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    I would say they all do that... the amount of momentum needed is relative to the root size

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyer
    Did Iviguy tell you all that this was for over the Over-60-and Back-to-Biking Club? You ought to be ashamed of yourself....
    Kidding, of course- way to go. That 575 can run pretty hard if needed
    Yeah, I had to redesign my Yeti for that race too since I over did it on the Exlax the night before....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Jim Mac
    So how did you run it? Did you firm up the suspension or run locked out? I've had my 575 going pretty fast here lately, it really likes to go fast through the rock gardens especially. I'm even getting the hang of the switchback turns going uphill. One thing I've noticed, if you hit a big root going uphill you better have some speed or the momentum stops. Is that the single pivot design at work or do they all do that?
    I set it to firm and lowered the front fork to about 120mm. It did real well. I managed to pass several people in a different class that started 2 to 4 minutes before the class I raced. Whatever was faultering was NOT a bike issue. It was an old man, me issue.... The bike rocked!

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    Congrats iviguy!

    If I ever get in good enough shape, I was thinking of entering a race next spring...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Jim Mac
    So how did you run it? Did you firm up the suspension or run locked out? I've had my 575 going pretty fast here lately, it really likes to go fast through the rock gardens especially. I'm even getting the hang of the switchback turns going uphill. One thing I've noticed, if you hit a big root going uphill you better have some speed or the momentum stops. Is that the single pivot design at work or do they all do that?
    Seems to be basic physics that you will slow quite a bit! Your forward momentum is used up compressing that sock. , I think the Yeti tackles large roots / step ups quite well (1-2 foot). There is a 2 foot step up root on NW timber trail - Tiger Mnt Wa that I used to make 75-80 % of the time on my 5 inch Jamis XLT 2.0. It was certainly challenging. So far I've hit it 3 times on the Yeti and blew right over it. That spot seems pretty easy now.

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    Two of you guys bring your 575s down next year and we'll do this with an all Yeti team:

    http://www.mesacycles.com/MesaCycles12hrnew.pdf

    Lots of beer, women riding in thongs, race start in colored smoke and an occasional pink bike with streamers from the handlebars.

    Not to mention a challenging rocky 14-mile course around a lake and some night riding thrown in for good measure.
    What, me hurry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BelaySlave
    Congrats iviguy!

    If I ever get in good enough shape, I was thinking of entering a race next spring...
    Just do it.... Heck I knew I would suck but it was a fun experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Jim Mac
    Two of you guys bring your 575s down next year and we'll do this with an all Yeti team:

    http://www.mesacycles.com/MesaCycles12hrnew.pdf

    Lots of beer, women riding in thongs, race start in colored smoke and an occasional pink bike with streamers from the handlebars.

    Not to mention a challenging rocky 14-mile course around a lake and some night riding thrown in for good measure.
    That looks like a blast. My bro-in-law in Boise wants me to do some epic they have out there somewhere in Idaho this summer. I think the Yeti is anxious....

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    New question here.

    Quote Originally Posted by iviguy
    My bro-in-law in Boise wants me to do some epic they have out there somewhere in Idaho this summer.
    Which epic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BelaySlave
    Which epic?
    He is sending the info to me. I don't recall what it is called but it's like 60 miles of riding and there is some cabin to stay at as well. Sounds fun. Can't wait to get the info.

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    Upset Tonka - Easy for you! I still haven't cleared it.

    That's the big root bundle after the left turn just past where the trail has eroded away? Maybe I need to hit it faster? It seems like I hit my big ring, everytime I give it a go. That is the only section left for a dabless ride.

    Quote Originally Posted by tonkabob
    Seems to be basic physics that you will slow quite a bit! Your forward momentum is used up compressing that sock. , I think the Yeti tackles large roots / step ups quite well (1-2 foot). There is a 2 foot step up root on NW timber trail - Tiger Mnt Wa that I used to make 75-80 % of the time on my 5 inch Jamis XLT 2.0. It was certainly challenging. So far I've hit it 3 times on the Yeti and blew right over it. That spot seems pretty easy now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iviguy
    It was an 8 mile course through tight technical singletrack. I ride the course all the time as it's very close to my house. An 8 mile course doesn't sound like much but it's a pretty challenging course. The fastest beginner in my class was about 40 minutes and I was about 9 minutes behind that with the slowest in my class being about 71 minutes.

    Oddly enough, while I'm sitting there at the start waiting on them to line us up to go some guy pulls up next to me on a black Yeti 575 with a Fox 36 and a DHX Air. Suddenly I was feeling like I had nice light race bike... LOL...

    If I would have had a light racer type bike I might have been able to shave off a minute, maybe. But it's a toss up. I definately didn't feel like I was on a hog though.
    That was me. I was leading my class (B6) until I flatted just past the Bankshot. I raced mine at LB Houston a few weeks ago and got 5th. I'm faster on my 575 than I am on my Trek Fuel EX6...but then again, my 575 is lighter than my Fuel.

    I ran the same race course earlier Saturday and turned in a 42 minute time. Are you racing at Johnsons Branch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voodoosix
    That was me. I was leading my class (B6) until I flatted just past the Bankshot. I raced mine at LB Houston a few weeks ago and got 5th. I'm faster on my 575 than I am on my Trek Fuel EX6...but then again, my 575 is lighter than my Fuel.

    I ran the same race course earlier Saturday and turned in a 42 minute time. Are you racing at Johnsons Branch?

    Hey! Loved the build on your bike. I won't be doing JB this time around. 42 minutes? 49 minutes was really fast for me. LOL. It's all in my lack of endurance too.

    I agree though that the 575 is really great even for racing. Your build must put you about 30lbs too.

    Good luck at JB. Say hi if you ever see me on the trail.

    -Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by BelaySlave
    Which epic?
    It looks like some course by Idaho City. You can do the trails and they have Yurts available about 30 miles into the course to stay at for about $60 a night. It looks like a cool deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iviguy
    Hey! Loved the build on your bike. I won't be doing JB this time around. 42 minutes? 49 minutes was really fast for me. LOL. It's all in my lack of endurance too.

    I agree though that the 575 is really great even for racing. Your build must put you about 30lbs too.

    Good luck at JB. Say hi if you ever see me on the trail.

    -Mike
    42 minutes nearly had me puking.

    I've never weighed my bike, but I suspect you are right about it being around 30 or so. I weight 255 so I'm not worried about the bike weight!

    I'm not positive I'm going to race JB. I may just go out and take pictures. Lugging my camera stuff around the race is almost more a workout than competing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voodoosix
    42 minutes nearly had me puking.

    I've never weighed my bike, but I suspect you are right about it being around 30 or so. I weight 255 so I'm not worried about the bike weight!

    I'm not positive I'm going to race JB. I may just go out and take pictures. Lugging my camera stuff around the race is almost more a workout than competing!
    Hey, since you are running the juicy's with the wavey rotors, do you also have the brake squeal like a love sick Yeti? I think it's common with those wavey rotors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iviguy
    It looks like some course by Idaho City. You can do the trails and they have Yurts available about 30 miles into the course to stay at for about $60 a night. It looks like a cool deal.
    He's probably talking about this....

    http://www.idahoparks.org/assets/con...e%20Trails.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by iviguy
    Hey, since you are running the juicy's with the wavey rotors, do you also have the brake squeal like a love sick Yeti? I think it's common with those wavey rotors.
    I have the Juicy 7s, 8 inch rotors and yes they do squeal but only the rear. I have the 6 inchers on my Fisher and guess what, no squeal. Go figure. But I think it's the pads that doing it, someone had a post on some aftermarket ones I need to look into...
    What, me hurry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Jim Mac
    I have the Juicy 7s, 8 inch rotors and yes they do squeal but only the rear. I have the 6 inchers on my Fisher and guess what, no squeal. Go figure. But I think it's the pads that doing it, someone had a post on some aftermarket ones I need to look into...
    Same here, exactly. Will is going to replace them for me though. He went back to Avid and got them to send him some clean sweeps. I have heard others say that is the answer. We shall see.

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    Mine HOWL, more than squeal. Then they vibrate at about 2000khz...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voodoosix
    Mine HOWL, more than squeal. Then they vibrate at about 2000khz...
    Did you buy it from Clarence? Avid is replacing the wavey rotors for the clean sweeps free of charge and is even giving me replacement pads. All you have to do is go back to your LBS and tell them to contact Avid for the replacement rotors.

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    SD race destroyer!

    I do dare say that i kicked some arse racing Super D on the 575 over the summer. Utah state champ, 2nd at the Deer Valley 30 mens, Sundance series champ.

    at 28lbs with a fox 32 vanilla it is fast and handles great. Lots o fun!

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    Wow! Congrats Krispy! Very impressive results!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iviguy
    Did you buy it from Clarence? Avid is replacing the wavey rotors for the clean sweeps free of charge and is even giving me replacement pads. All you have to do is go back to your LBS and tell them to contact Avid for the replacement rotors.
    Yup, from MadDuck. I guess I'll have to call them.

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    This is an interesting thread. I never knew that the 575 could be set up to be competitive. I am about to start training/pacing a friend who is training for a competition next year. He sold his Intense 5.5 and took delivery of a brand new ARC 2 weeks ago. I can't imagine how a long legged machine can be competitive but I will try out his ARC and compare times.

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    I raced my 575 last Sunday in the 3rd round of Auckland champs. Auckland has a population of a bit over a million.
    My 575 sits at just on 25lbs when I race it. I got 4th in the race, about 15 minutes behind the winner who took 2 hours, 1 minute from memory. I beat my 2 years younger bro (I'm 31) on his ASR-SL by 2 places even though I'm not nearly as fit as him.
    Why did my 575 even have a chance? Well, of the 5 singletracks that made up a lap, (there were 3 laps for us Open expert/Pro Elite men) I made or helped to make 4 of them, so naturally I've made tracks that suit my 575. The tracks are generally down, rough and have jumps and steep drop sections with by-passes that add 5 to 15 seconds if you can't do the hard part. Also, as you can well imagine, I know the tracks extremely well.

    The previous time I raced my 575 was in August in a 70km race. I was woefully under prepared and finished about 1 1/2 hours behind a Swiss Pro who was over here for the World Champs. However in May I rode my 575 to victory in a 24hr solo race. It was brilliant for this and that is what I built it up for.

    So it can be raced to some success, you just have to choose your course wisely.

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    Great results, theturquoisewarrior!

    Congrats!

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    What are your bike specs to get the 575 down to 25lbs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HYH
    What are your bike specs to get the 575 down to 25lbs?

    Medium turquoise frame
    '05 Manitou Minute 2 130mm disc only
    Yeti dual compound grips
    XTR m951 8 speed trigger shifters
    XTR m951 cranks 4 arm w/Cycle Dynamics Ti inner ring & 9 speed XTR 9 speed others
    XTR m952 rear derailleur short cage
    XTR m951 12 - 32 8 speed cluster (non Ti) w/Al lockring
    XTR m961 front derailleur
    XTR m952 bottom bracket
    SRAM PC-68 chain
    Look 4x4 pedals w/custom Ti spindles
    Kish Ti seatpost with custom clamp
    BBB seatpost clamp
    Specialized '06 Rival SL saddle
    Yeti ARC R1 carbon riser bar
    Hope Mono M4 front brake w/2 piece 180mm rotor and standard line
    Hope Mono Mini rear brake w/2 piece 160mm rotor and standard line
    Chris King headset w/Ti base plate
    Salsa ahead cap
    Race Face Deus 100mm stem
    Front wheel: Hope XC hub, Mavic 317 rim, DT Revolution 2.0/1.5/2.0 spokes, Al nipples
    Rear wheel: Hope Ti-glide hub, Mavic 317 rim, DT Revolution 2.0/1.5/2.0 spokes, Al nipples
    Salsa Ti flip off quick releases
    Shimano cables with 4mm outers
    Maxxis Flyweight tubes
    Maxxis High Roller type R tyres
    Assorted Al bolts where I can get away with them

    I think that's everything. I only use those tyres for racing and even then only sometimes. Mostly I use a Specialized Adreneline 2.0 on the front and a Panaracer Smoke Kevlar Classic on the rear. I've found some welded Titanium ISIS cranks which I hope to get soon to go with an American Classic BB and some other chainrings that I already have. I hope to lose another 1/3lb there.

    With the bigger tyres my bike still looks heavyish, which I like because people get a surprise when they pick it up to find it is often lighter than their bike

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    Oops, I did forget something. My custom Hope Spline to 6 bolt IS adaptor for the rear hub

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    Thanks for sharing your spec. The components is right up there with the best. But are you sure that you are getting 25Lbs of a properly calibrated weighing scale. My 575 weighs in at 28.5 Lbs and I am using fairly light components except the Sram x9 groupset, DT Swiss 5.1 Ex and Kenda Nevegal 2.1 tires. Hubs, handle bar etc are quite light. Will upgrading to a XTR groupset save me 3 Lbs? Here's my spec, I would appreciate if you can advise how I can bring my 575 down to 25Lbs.

    Large Black ano frame c/w carbon rear
    07 Talas 32 RLC
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    Sram X9 groupset
    Crank Brothers 5050 pedals
    Thompson Elite seat post
    Selle Italia 06 SLR Kevlar XC
    Raceface Next XC carbon low riser bar
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    Thompson stem
    Front and Rear wheel: Ringle Flea hub, DT Swiss 5.1D EX wheels
    Ordinary tubes
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    The Pro Kit version from Yeti weighs in at 27Lbs.
    Pro Kit

    Suspension: F: Fox TALAS 130 RLC R: Fox RP3
    Headset: Chris King
    Brakes: Avid Juicy Carbon
    Shifters: Sram X.0
    Front Der.: S Shimano XTR
    Rear Der.: Sram X.0
    Crankset: Shimano XTR
    B. Bracket: integrated w/crank
    Cassette: Shimano XTR 11-32
    Chain: Shimano HG-93
    Stem: Thomson
    Handlebar: Race Face Next Carbon
    Grips: Yeti Hard Core
    Seatpost: Thomson
    Saddle: WTB Rocket-V ti rail
    Hubs F-R: Mavic Crossmax SL Disc
    Rims: Mavic Crossmax SL Disc
    Tires: Maxxis Ignitor 1.95"
    Weight: 27.0 Lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by HYH
    Thanks for sharing your spec. The components is right up there with the best. But are you sure that you are getting 25Lbs of a properly calibrated weighing scale. My 575 weighs in at 28.5 Lbs and I am using fairly light components except the Sram x9 groupset, DT Swiss 5.1 Ex and Kenda Nevegal 2.1 tires. Hubs, handle bar etc are quite light. Will upgrading to a XTR groupset save me 3 Lbs? Here's my spec, I would appreciate if you can advise how I can bring my 575 down to 25Lbs.

    Large Black ano frame c/w carbon rear
    07 Talas 32 RLC
    Yeti dual compound grips
    Sram X9 groupset
    Crank Brothers 5050 pedals
    Thompson Elite seat post
    Selle Italia 06 SLR Kevlar XC
    Raceface Next XC carbon low riser bar
    Avid Juicy Carbon Brakes
    Thompson stem
    Front and Rear wheel: Ringle Flea hub, DT Swiss 5.1D EX wheels
    Ordinary tubes
    Kenda nevegal 2.1 tires
    Well, pedals and tubes, could help save some wiight I suppose... and as you already said, maybe tires...

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