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    Help! Boys discovered my Yeti

    I've got a kind of good problem, in that my boys ages 16 and almost 14, have discovered my Yeti. I suppose this would be similar to what would happen if a real Yeti were discovered. It's good in that they love to ride but bad in that I can see them taking over the Yeti forcing me back to the old hardtail. So what's a dad to do? Buy another Yeti? Go for a different model (I have a 575) or get a completely different brand for some variety? Get them into the drug scene?

    No. 1 son likes to tear it up (in more ways than one) on the jumps, he has no fear. Other son more like me, more into the ride than the danger zone.

    I was considering getting a frame and building it up as I buy new components for the 575. The hardtail has some pretty nice parts on it, Juicy 7s, Black Super Air fork, SPD clipless pedals and almost new Panaracer Fire tires.

    Anyone got a cheap FS frame they want to unload cheap? Gotta be big for plus 6 foot skinny boys.
    What, me hurry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Jim Mac
    I've got a kind of good problem, in that my boys ages 16 and almost 14, have discovered my Yeti. I suppose this would be similar to what would happen if a real Yeti were discovered. It's good in that they love to ride but bad in that I can see them taking over the Yeti forcing me back to the old hardtail. So what's a dad to do? Buy another Yeti? Go for a different model (I have a 575) or get a completely different brand for some variety? Get them into the drug scene?

    No. 1 son likes to tear it up (in more ways than one) on the jumps, he has no fear. Other son more like me, more into the ride than the danger zone.

    I was considering getting a frame and building it up as I buy new components for the 575. The hardtail has some pretty nice parts on it, Juicy 7s, Black Super Air fork, SPD clipless pedals and almost new Panaracer Fire tires.

    Anyone got a cheap FS frame they want to unload cheap? Gotta be big for plus 6 foot skinny boys.
    If it were me, I would get them their own bikes. Something that if they tear it up wouldn't be too bad a deal. For jumping get him a jump bike. That will be most durable. Keep those kids off Dad's bike.... That's what I would do. Maybe some cheaper Jamis bikes or something.

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    Get the jumper an asx and the younger another 575 or something along those lines. Happy yeti family!!

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    They both have Fisher hardtails, an Advance and a Marlin, but they have both outgrown them. I'll eventually get them FS sometings, one of these is going to be a Santa Cruz. What's a Kokopelli? Is that a downhill bike? I'm guessing they don't make it anymore. Did the 575 replace it? Kind of cool that we all wear the same shoe size so can swap bikes. I like th eidea of having something race worthy and a big hit bike too to go with the 575.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Jim Mac
    They both have Fisher hardtails, an Advance and a Marlin, but they have both outgrown them. I'll eventually get them FS sometings, one of these is going to be a Santa Cruz. What's a Kokopelli? Is that a downhill bike? I'm guessing they don't make it anymore. Did the 575 replace it? Kind of cool that we all wear the same shoe size so can swap bikes. I like th eidea of having something race worthy and a big hit bike too to go with the 575.
    You need to have them both work their hiney's off mowing lawns or whatever and you can "help" them buy a couple of nice bikes. If they have a stake in the process then they will take much better care of the bikes as well. If they are very responsible boys you may not have that issue but still they will appreciate it better if they help pay for it.

    I would be hard pressed to allow my kids to take my bike out very often. It would be about the same to me as them driving my car. It's just not going to be something that happens very often if at all. I was a kid and I remember how things worked. Wrecked my mom's car the very first time I drove it. And I was a responsible kid too.

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    Hard tails are great

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Jim Mac
    They both have Fisher hardtails, an Advance and a Marlin, but they have both outgrown them. I'll eventually get them FS sometings, one of these is going to be a Santa Cruz. What's a Kokopelli? Is that a downhill bike? I'm guessing they don't make it anymore. Did the 575 replace it? Kind of cool that we all wear the same shoe size so can swap bikes. I like th eidea of having something race worthy and a big hit bike too to go with the 575.
    My older son is not into biking but the second (14 yrs) one is. He started trail riding with me few months back. He used my 10 years old Trek 6500 HT which is effectively fully rigid nowadays. He is very technical and did very well with this agressive geometry on all terrains including Rock gardens and some 1-2 feet drops (actually he gave me the courege to try some minor drops).
    Sure he asked for a free ride bike (one of the Konas) but I told him to start with my Bontrager for a few months before he knows what he wants.
    Now the Bontrager has a 2004 MX comp shock (Excellent IMO) and a Thusbuster seat post and I changed to a riser bar just lately, so it is a huge upgrade for him and he loves it.
    Now he can see the advantage over his friends with FS when climbing or accelerating and his is not in such a hurry to buy a new bike.
    Besides, I think HT is the best way you learn how to ride and for teenagers doing cross country maybe the best ride.
    I don't mind letting him ride my Yeti as long as I am with him but it did not happen so far (I must admit).

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    The Koko is the ancestor to the ASR-SL. It's a great bike- a bit more beefy than the ASR-SL, it seems. I've seen a couple of the trails in Colorado. One guy had a really nice one which I saw at Green Mountain.

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    well, thier old enough for jobs..... lock up your Yeti and show them the classifieds if they expect to have a bike like that :P

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    The closest they should be allowed to your 575 is looking at it through a glass case or maybe if they're good kids, let them hold it when you are loading/unloading for a ride.

    Great to hear that they are both riding. It's gotta be exciting. As mentioned above, a hard tail may bring them farther faster. I've always felt it was best to cut your teeth on one and move up. A hard-tail will help in learning to pick better lines, finesse/handling... Plus it will leave another stage/platform of riding to work forward to.

    I entirely agree that they need to earn bikes of this caliber hard-tail or not. The 16yr old should check out your LBS. Work as a helper & learn to wrench and all the other facets of a shop. He'll learn responsibility in both a professional sense and for his equipment. The younger, LAWN KING! They will both be better off in so man ways.

    As far as bike, look into something like a LX equipped stumpy or giant... just nice enough to see if they'll stick with it, have a manufacture who has good warranty an is not as blingly that the friends and other young punks would be so eager to get there hands on it.

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    You all miss the beauty of this dilemma -- not only do I have two teenagers interested in something besides piercing their tongues, but I have the perfect opportunity to justify two more high-bling bikes. Could get a Yeti race bike and a downhiller or go for something competely different, say an Intense 5.5, Turner or even better, a Santa Cruz Nomad. All I have to do is sell the other kidney...

    "hey, it's not for me, it's for the boys. got to keep them off the drugs you know..."
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    I say get a short-to-medium travel bike. However, I hope your boys are good with expensive toys like these. Bust the Yeti rear traingle and you will shell out around $750. Maybe stick with as little carbon as possible and go with a tough short-travel bike that complements the 575. My two others favorites are non Yetis. I just picked up a short-travel XC bike that is really nice- the Turner Flux. I couldn't pass it up at the price I got. It's fast, a bit more plush that the ASR-SL, and very well balanced though I only have one ride on it. I never look at downhill bikes so would only go as high as the 575 and I love the short-travel bikes as well- AS-R SL, El Fuego, and Flux are my three favorites.

    That's if YOU want another bike. If I had boys, they would be riding solid, inexpensive, Hardtails and not be allowed to touch my bikes. Well, maybe to wax them if they were not Anodized or wash them and lube them- or carry them to my bike rack or something like that.

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    They've both got Fisher hardtails. Next summer I see us heading to Colorado to do some riding, I can always rent out there. I think I'll sell one of their kidneys...
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    There may be a market for skin- and it grows back too. You can certainly rent some nice bikes in CO, especially in the resort towns.

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    Oh the storm that would come down if a child were to wreck the yeti. I have a 575, my 8 month old isn't allowed anywhere near it I know he wants to tear it up, soon at least he'll get towed behind it.

    if interested PM me I have a heavily used Jamis Dakar XC with new rear triangle, all original parts, but rides still, could use some new cables and a quick tune, but I'll sell it to ya for $300 plus shipping. Rebuilt the rear fox shock last season, manitou black front fork with adjustable 80-100 mm travel, most XC parts, XC wheelset, rim brakes..

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    Wink on know they did int'

    go to costco and buy a couple of motivs' that ill slow them down till their worthy of a true stallion like like the almighty 575,,,

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