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    ARC Carbon or S-Works HT

    I am currently riding an S-Works Stumpy hardtail. The new model is out soon and I was thinking of upgrading. However...

    The Yeti ARC Carbon is such a gorgeous bike!

    Primarily looking for a race bike but also something for weekend singletrack riding with my mates.

    Any experience or advice appreciated. I realise I am in the Yeti forum so will also post a message in the Specialised area for a balanced argument!
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    Depends on if you want to support a small rider owed company or a large Wall St. type corporation. You can vote with your cash on how you would like the world to be run. I'm sure some lawyers and corporate suit executives would love for you to buy a spesh. But don't let that cloud your judgement, buy which ever you like the best.
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    I can't imagine wanting to own anything specialized. Do you want to pay for a full time legal department that sues any company that has an "s" in their name, or do you want to pay for bike development. Really it seems like the extent of big s' engineering is making everything they can proprietary, except of course when they could improve performance by doing so... proprietary crown races? come on, no reason whatsoever to do that other than contempt for owners.

    Personally, I'd rather get kicked in the nuts every hour of every day than buy a specialized.
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    Wow! Some powerful comments! Perhaps I hadn't fully recognised how differently the companies would be viewed. I was expecting a comparison of the bikes not corporate philosophy!

    I had an ASR before the Specialized so have already had a foot in both camps. The Stumpy is a brilliant bike whatever your opinion of those working for the big 'S'. Just looking for thoughts on how the ACR compares.

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    Look at the geometry numbers, I bet you'll find they aren't that different. Big S' pointless propritary parts are really off-putting to me, as is their no internet sales policy.

    Big S sells (they don't make anything) ho hum bikes, and their higher end offerings are either just as or more expensive than similar offerings from brands like Yeti. Even overlooking the deplorable buisness practices of big S, I don't see any advantage of the s-works over Yeti or Niner or Intense or Pivot or any other carbon hardtails out there.

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    I'll post a reply that borders more on common sense, but it always serves true: get the one that you are most comfortable with. I've owned a Spesh carbon HT (non s-works), Niner A9 RDO, and now the ARC carbon. With the Spesh and Niner, I found myself always fiddling with the fit of the bike. Swapping stems, handlebars, messing with the seat post height and fore/aft. On the ARC carbon, I finally found peace.

    However, that's my personal experience. You may fit better on the Spesh. Who knows? But I love my ARC and can finally just ride it without thinking about what to adjust/replace next.

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    One thing that does attract me to the ARC is the threaded BB. I'm constantly having to grease and replace the bearings in the BB30 on my current Stumpy.

    Otherwise as you say the angles are very similar. Yeti has a slightly more relaxed head angle which I think I'd prefer from my previous Yeti days.

    The Twentynineinches review says the Yeti rides very firm. Has anybody any first hand thoughts on this? Is it worth shelling out for a Syntace P6 seatpost?

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    I think the P6 post is a great addition to any hard tail.

    I think both the Yeti and the Specialized are outstanding bikes. I've owned the previous S-works models and currently have a Niner Air9 RDO. My wife has a 2013 S-works HT currently. We've both ridden Yeti ARC (aluminum) and ASR dual suspensions in the past.

    The Specialized will be lighter and comes with an excellent SID WC Brain fork. The 2014 models also have slightly higher BB's, a bit longer TT, and the 142 rear ends now. Nothing on them is proprietary. The BB is PF30 and the tapered head tubes are standard type. You can run the excellent, very light, S-works crankset on the PF30 frames.

    That said, the Yeti's are excellent as well. Pick the one that fits you the best and has the handling characteristics you like. If you fit both well... flip a coin

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