I'm looking for some feedback on how strong the 575 is for all mountain (ab)use. I'm a chronic parts/frame breaker, and I did it again on my 3 year old, beat to hell Azonic Saber. Have any of you broken the 575 frame? I'm just as concerned about it withstanding abuse and misuse as I am with it holding up well when used properly.
I'm looking for a trail bike that has a 68 - 68.5 degree head angle when mated to a 5" sherman that can take some abuse, but isn't overly porky. I consider steep rock faces and moderate drops a perfectly normal part of an xc ride, just to give an idea of how I'll be riding here in Seattle. I've also got a big bike, so the 575 wouldn't see any real DH, shore or bike park. The Yeti seems to fit the bill, but is a bit lighter than the other frames I'm considering, so that has me a bit concerned. Maybe an ASX with a shorter stroke shock would be a better bet for me.
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Thanks for the input,
I broke the chainstay on my 575 a few weeks back. search the forum for pics, then go buy an asx.
575 is a XC trail bike....not a freeride bike. If you want to huck and hurt **** and 'abuse' your bike, the 575 isn't for you.
Any bike you 'abuse' is going to break. You could get a Nomad, or 6.6, or an AS-X, and leave 'em outside, and never clean 'em, and never replace your chain or brake pads, and you're bike will break.
Advice: Go buy a Huffy or similar K-Mart Bike. If you're just going to abuse it, you might as well have a POS. Or, get a nice bike, and take care of it.
I'm going to assume that by "abuse", juice means that he is going to ride the heck out of the bike. Like every good mountain bike should be ridden.
Originally Posted by lacticacidbath
juice, I have a 575 and an ASX and live and ride around Seattle. Each bike has it's obvious uses and the 575 is definately going to have a much more limited life span than the ASX does if you are going to be riding things like Galbraith, Peeler, or traveling north to BC and Whistler. Occasionally the ASX is down and I need to take the 575 to Galbraith. I've done 6 foot drops on it without feeling like I was giving it too much, but I have to say that I wouldn't do it consistently. Get an ASX or something similar.
Turner RFX might fit the bill better. A little more weight but stronger overall from what I gather and can take a coil rear shock if you like that. Kinda in the middle of the 575 and the ASX. The 575 seems plenty durable for it's intended use (and then some) but you sound like you might need a little more....
Yeah, abuse means riding hard, riding often and sometimes crashing. It also means riding all winter - but with proper maintenance.
Originally Posted by goatboy001
So goatboy, we ride together, and you ride as hard as I do. You got the 575 and love it, maybe I'll have to take it for a 5 minute spin and see how it fits. You're on a medium? That's what I'd be looking at since they have long top tubes.
The upside of a Yeti is they're supposed to have good CS, so things like a cracked chainstay on one or two frames shouldn't be a deal breaker. Any frame can break unless it weighs 11 lbs, so I'm just trying to find the right balance between geometry, weight and durability. A bike that fits well is the only factor set in stone in my search for a new steed.
I'm used to a 24" top tube, so a 23.4 or 24.4 might not work for me. I'll just have to hop on one and find out. But I really like the idea of shortish 16.9" chainstays, that sounds like a fun setup. I think Yeti nailed the geometry on this bike. A lot of other mfrs seem to throw on too steep of a head angle on their trail bikes.
I ordered the bike up last week! I looked over the frame, read the reviews and decided that the 575 would be a great trail bike for me. Since I now also have a dedicated DH bike I should be much easier on my trail rigs.
The bike I'm getting is a Large 575 in raw (since it's in stock) with the enduro kit. I'll be selling the Fox Vanilla and putting on a Pike 454 air u-turn and also selling the wheels that come with it in favor of my burly wheels that have fat tubless ex823 rims.
The things that really sold me on this bike are the geometry and 2 particular design features. First is the triangle thing in the top tube and the way the shock forces go straight into the top tube. The second is the carbon pivots, no lateral flex there.
In 2002 I swore I'd never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever go air suspension again, and now I'm going air both front and rear. Never say never. But I'm keeping my old Sherman Firefly as a backup. Both the RP23 and Pike seem to hold up pretty well.
Hopefully it'll get here soon, just doing big bike rides around here in July leaves you longing for the high country.