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    Fox Testing New Electronic Lockout?

    Geoff Kabush and Catherine Pendrel were out testing a new Fox electronic lockout at Mellow Johnny's Pro XCT this weekend. http://www.cyclingdirt.org/article/1...tronic-Lockout

    Interested to see what will come of this..
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    Interesting...

    I guess we are looking at the electronic black box.

    What type of fork or shock are they working with?

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    All I know is there is funny thing with wires attached to my wife's bike.
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    You need to hire a photographer. From the pictures in the article there may as well be little green men hanging off the shock.
    Authorities speculate that speed may have been a factor. They are also holding gravity and inertia for questioning.

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    It makes sense that it looks like a Di2 battery pack as it looks like a Shimano/Fox collaboration.
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    That is for sure a Di2 battery but you can wire a battery to just about anything if you want. Could be that the Fox engineers just didn't want to design a mount and battery and just used what was available. Or it could be a callabo.
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    I was thinking about this the other day, actually...

    I'm training to be a systems engineer. Luckily I seem to be better at that than racing mountain bikes, because I'm going to be pretty slow this summer. Damn grad school!

    Anyway, one way to think about a suspension fork for someone who cares about pedaling well is that it's a selective filter, something that removes a periodic force with the frequency of a person pedaling while allowing low and high frequences (sag and trail chatter) to pass. A problem is that I think a lot of slightly larger obstacles aren't allowed to cause the fork to deform by such a setup, which is where the reputation of a lot of XC forks as being a bit harsh comes from.

    It's easy to incorporate stuff into an electronic feedback system that would take a ton of damping circuits and maybe additional masses and valving to achieve with a fluid system. Initial setup, if done well, could even be easier. I think it would help for the system to know how fast the bike was going and maybe also whether or not the rider was pedaling, but I can imagine it using only feedback from the fork itself, if it was made to be smart enough. Pretty cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrwSwitch View Post

    It's easy to incorporate stuff into an electronic feedback system that would take a ton of damping circuits and maybe additional masses and valving to achieve with a fluid system. Initial setup, if done well, could even be easier. I think it would help for the system to know how fast the bike was going and maybe also whether or not the rider was pedaling, but I can imagine it using only feedback from the fork itself, if it was made to be smart enough. Pretty cool.
    That makes a lot of sense. I'm sure you could retune it for different course profiles and maybe enable you to collect ride / bump data....it's been tried though a few times though, hasn't it? A friend had a Proflex / K2 bike years ago with this gizmo attached but it seems like none of the major players were interested in adopting it. In some ways I'm surprised electronically controlled suspension isn't widespread already...




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    I know Cannondale was trying it.

    It's going to need to be a lot better than suspension systems without it, I think. Or, Fox and other companies will need to be willing to take a really long time to recoup development costs, and offer forks with the electronic gizmo for only a little more than forks without them. The controllers would be pretty cheap, once they got going, especially if they shipped in near-stock cases and took off-the-shelf batteries and used off-the-shelf actuators. They might even permit removing some of the expensive innards from a fork. But development of something like this is always pretty expensive.
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    Here's a picture my brother got of Catherine Pendrel's bike at Mellow Johnny's.
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    how'd she win that race on a 26?

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    I'm surprised no one has started a rumour about hiding a small electric motor in the BB shell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by COLINx86 View Post
    Here's a picture my brother got of Catherine Pendrel's bike at Mellow Johnny's.
    That bike is rad.

    She didn't mention the electronic turbo boost pack she used to steal victory in her blog.

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    Get it unlocked.

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    UPDATED: Full photo gallery of Geoff Kabush's race bike from this past weekend. http://www.cyclingdirt.org/photo/692...toalbum/445920
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