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    Shoe reviews (for flat pedals)

    Late last year I switched to flat pedals, and have been trying to find appropriate shoes. I've been wearing a pair of old trail runners, which stick to the pedals pretty well, but they have a wide base and I couldn't really put my feet where I wanted to on my pedals. (DMR V8s, which I intend to replace, but that's another issue.) The various 5.10 offerings do not fit me at all; they are too wide and my feet slosh around in them.

    First shoes I tried were the Scarpa Gecko Guide Ws. They had a tread pattern similar to the 5.10s: http://a1.zassets.com/images/z/1/3/6...p-DETAILED.jpg It's a Vibram sole, though, not the sticky 5.10 rubber. It's pretty hard and kind of slick. I threw them back.

    Next stop: the Vans store. Where they had <i>no</i> actual womens' skate shoes, only "lifestyle" shoes. As in, not going to hold up to the rigors of mtb. Especially on my crashy feet. So, for S&G, I tried on a few pairs of mens' shoes.

    I picked up with a pair of Dockets. They are last year's model, and were on sale for $40 or so.

    Since the Vans site doesn't show the tread, here's a photo (pardon the dust, was riding in Bend all weekend) (yeah, I know, sucks to be me):


    Despite this being a "men's" shoe, it fits me pretty well. I'm not saying I want to run a marathon in them or anything, but they're certainly suitable for riding. I've worn them for a grand total of 8 or 9 hours (2 rides) so far.

    Pros:
    - price
    - fit
    - stick like mad to the pedals (keep in mind I'm only doing small jumps and then only if I'm forced) (though I did clear my first little itty-bitty double over the weekend)
    - good padding around the ankles

    Cons:
    - lacing is weird, it's too high-friction or something & it's hard to get the shoes snug
    - these are going to be h-o-t in August
    - stuff (pine needles, etc) gets down the collar and into my socks
    - your friends yell "off the WALL!" every time you successfully ride a stunt or trail feature

    HTH those of you looking for alternatives to the 5.10s.

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    Good to know! 5.10's are just barely wide enough for me, and I love them, but good to know what works for those with narrow feet.

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    Keen Newports

    I'm in the tropics, and these have been my standard riding shoe for years, worn out one pair, and almost through another. You can hose them down at the end of the day, no need for socks, comfy on and off the bike, and really sturdy. Great for wide feet, which I have

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    Hi Gabrielle.

    I wear Merrell's Avian Light Ventilator. I have a narrow foot & they fit very well, & stick to the pedals well (I run flat pedals too). Might want to check them out, it's a smaller profile than most skate or bike specific shoes (especially the women's version).

    BTW, where were you riding? I live in Bend, & was riding Mrazek last weekend.

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    What flat pedals are ya'll using?

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    Wellgo MG-1 for me. Certainly not the best or lightest, but they might be at their price point ($35ish). You can get a version with the Titanium spindles that's lighter, but that effectively doubles the price.

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    I was using the 5-10 guide tennies for a while (before buying impacts). only a tad less sticky than the impacts, but i hear ya, i have narrow feet and the impacts feel huge. I ride both flats and clipless, but was using the tennies for a long time (they come in womens sizes) my only issue was, for the longer rides, you might not find the tennies to be stiff enough. Being a hiking shoe, i'd say they're stiffer than a running sneaker, but not as stiff as a mtb shoe. Still a good option though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkychick View Post
    I wear Merrell's Avian Light Ventilator.
    Cool, thanks for the tip! I'll put those on the list.

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    BTW, where were you riding? I live in Bend, & was riding Mrazek last weekend.
    I rode Mrazek on Saturday! I was in a pretty big group.

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    just plain unfriendly and maladjusted.
    "Yes, honey: I do love this bike more than I love you."

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    Quote Originally Posted by formica View Post
    What flat pedals are ya'll using?
    Right now I have a set of DMR V8s in the sexy, sexy 'oxblood' color. They are heavy, not wide enough (!!!), and too thick. I bang them on rocks constantly.

    My current wishlist for replacements:
    - HT AN01s if I can find some on the Bay of E.
    - Canfield Bros crampons. I think Connie recommended these a while back. I'm waiting for the new ones to come out; should be any day now.
    - Point One Podiums

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    just plain unfriendly and maladjusted.
    "Yes, honey: I do love this bike more than I love you."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripes View Post
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    That's a pretty good price point on those. I'm kind of choking on the whole "I might actually pay over $100 for some pedals" thing.

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    just plain unfriendly and maladjusted.
    "Yes, honey: I do love this bike more than I love you."

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    Forte convert flat pedals are HUGE in width, but thin in profile! and only like 60 bucks.
    longish pins too.

    lots of good reviews on them. FORT� Product Reviews and Ratings - Mountain Pedals - Fort� Convert Platform Pedal from Performance Bike
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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB28 View Post
    Forte convert flat pedals are HUGE in width, but thin in profile! and only like 60 bucks.
    Ah yeah, those look good!

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    longish pins too.
    "How shinburger is made!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impy
    just plain unfriendly and maladjusted.
    "Yes, honey: I do love this bike more than I love you."

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    funny, i'm more likely to get a pedal to the back of a heel when i go to pedal and miss completely. i find that the longer and sharper the pins, the less likely to slip so you can mostly avoid shinburgers
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    I have narrow feet too and recently got a pair of Teva Fusions. I've done a couple rides in them and they have been great. Those vans are definitely a better price though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by formica View Post
    What flat pedals are ya'll using?
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    Deity Decoy pedals on the MTB (skinny, sturdy, I've knocked off some pins, but was able to replace them). Fyxations (nylon) on the fatbike, figured my feet would be warmer than on metal pedals for snowbiking. Happy with them, plenty grippy which I wasn't sure they would be, really light, inexpensive, but I can't tell you how they hold up on rocks.

    If 5.10's do work for you, a sale at shoes MTB | Buy Now at ChainReactionCycles.com now. Discount depends on model, 13-40% off. Have had my Impact highs for 2+ years, love them, had to by another pair at 39% off.

    Edit - I see they have other brands on sale too, same link.

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    the teva links mid come in smaller sizes for women. They are even listed under the woman's section, though another page claims that they are mens. who knows, but these have tiny sizes
    Teva® Links Mid for Men | Mountain Biking Shoe at Teva.com

    the others that come to mind, are adidas berm, and Shimano makes a flat pedal mtb shoe too. its very similar in shape to 510 though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabrielle View Post
    Cool, thanks for the tip! I'll put those on the list.



    I rode Mrazek on Saturday! I was in a pretty big group.

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    Were you in the group with the lady who had her bike & helmet decorated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkychick View Post
    Were you in the group with the lady who had her bike & helmet decorated?
    ...NM, PM'd ya so as not to go further OT.

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    just plain unfriendly and maladjusted.
    "Yes, honey: I do love this bike more than I love you."

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    Spank Spikes! They are great...until you tag yourself in the calf :/.

    I have shimanos (the white ones with the bamboo pattern on the heels).

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    Quote Originally Posted by formica View Post
    What flat pedals are ya'll using?
    The "Platform Pedal Shootout" thread (Platform Pedal Shootout, the best flat is...) has a lot of good info in it.

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    just plain unfriendly and maladjusted.
    "Yes, honey: I do love this bike more than I love you."

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabrielle View Post
    ...NM, PM'd ya so as not to go further OT.

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    G,
    I tried to return your pm but am not allowed since I don't have enough posts (guess I need to work on that, haha). Yeah, we met you guys several times on the trail that day, I even commented on your decorations. You looked like you were having a great time.....that was a good day!! Small world, right?

    Anyway, did you get some different shoes? I'm curious to see what you end up with.

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    If your [replaceable] pedal pins are too short or long, take one out and go to the hardware store and find the set screws. At Aubuchon around here you can buy them by the piece. Make sure you match the thread count (how tight together the screw's spirals are) and the diameter, and then pick the length you want.

    If you can't get the old ones out with a hex wrench, just grab them with a vice-grips and unscrew.

    I think some of the pricier pedals seem more bIing than performance, and also consider that a less beefy pedal is appropriate if you are not downhilling, freeriding, or 200 lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabrielle View Post
    Right now I have a set of DMR V8s in the sexy, sexy 'oxblood' color. They are heavy, not wide enough (!!!), and too thick. I bang them on rocks constantly.

    My current wishlist for replacements:
    - HT AN01s if I can find some on the Bay of E.
    - Canfield Bros crampons. I think Connie recommended these a while back. I'm waiting for the new ones to come out; should be any day now.
    - Point One Podiums

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripes View Post
    Pedals used to be $100 for a good pair of flat pedals, but it hasn't been that way for a long time.
    Speaking of "budget", check these out: Untitled Document

    ...the current object of my bike desire... :sigh:

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    just plain unfriendly and maladjusted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flymybike View Post
    Gabrielle - The Crampon Ultimates are in. Check out the colors on facebook.
    Or here: Downhill bikes, bike frames and components for best performance

    Pretty! Thanks for the heads-up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkychick View Post
    I tried to return your pm but am not allowed since I don't have enough posts (guess I need to work on that, haha). Yeah, we met you guys several times on the trail that day, I even commented on your decorations. You looked like you were having a great time.....that was a good day!! Small world, right?
    Funny! Yeah, we were having a blast. It was a Birthday Situation.

    Quote Originally Posted by hawkychick View Post
    Anyway, did you get some different shoes? I'm curious to see what you end up with.
    The Vans are working out pretty well so far, so unless something else falls into my lap, I'm going to stick with them for a while. Although I tried out some Point One Podiums pedals last night & didn't feel like I was sticking as well. (Really bumpy trail though - too many variables to account for!) I'll post another review at the 6-month mark, or if I get something else.

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    I am using VP all- purpose flats, which I like a lot. I have no trouble finding sharp things upon which to impale my lower legs, pins or no pins .


    I'm wearing a paint of Garmont hiking shoes because I live a long way from any shopping opportunities and shopping is Not Fun in my book. Maybe next winter...

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    ^^ Have fun!

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    I have 510 impacts, perfect for my fat feet. Also bought a pair of 510 freeriders same size but they were narrower and hurt my feet, hardly ever wore them. Then I decided to put them on and just walk around in them for a day, seems to have stretched them out and I love em now. Much lighter weight, better for summer than the impacts.

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    I just put my flats on my bike this weekend. In fear of turning my shins into "shinburgers" I have been using kneepads until I get used to the pedals. I felt invincible. I rode everything. I am using my trail running shoes for right now. I am sure as I continue to ride with them I will have to find something more suitable. I love reading these forums and getting some ideas of what would work best for me.

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    Ugh; I'm really struggling with the clipless versus flats decision. It's clear I need a better connection to my pedals, but I just can't seem to make a decision. I've long used clipless with no difficulty on my road bike, but I've not been terribly eager to try them on my mtb. If I could just find a pair of shoes that are likely to fit, I'd lean more heavily toward flats. I wear a 7.5 in street shoes and an 8-8.5 in most athletic shoes. I have a relatively narrow forefoot and an extremely narrow heel. Something tells me that neither the Karver nor Impact Five Tens will work. Any other suggestions?

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    ^ i'd say maybe the freeriders, but they are more mens/unisex so they may be wider.
    or, the Guide Tennies. Similar rubber and grip, just not as stiff as a bike shoe. (both by five ten)
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    Thanks for the suggestions, Nicole. I have considered the Guide Tennies and wondered if they were my best option. I've otherwise been wearing Vasque hikers on my mtb, and wore them, without difficulty, during a three-day White Rim tour this past April so I don't know that a hiking (versus a cycling) shoe would bother me in terms of stiffness. The smallest size in the Freeride is a men's six. That might work, but I tend to think it'll be too wide in the heel.

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    stiffness helps push more power and prevent some foot aching, but honestly, its not the biggest deal in the world. if your feet dont ache, then you're probably fine. i swap back and forth clipped (almost all clipped right now, but i ride slow technical stuff better in flats) but i happen to have the Impacts. They are a bit wide and bulky, but they are so padded in the inside that it may work for you. Those go down to a size 5 mens (i wear a 6.5 ladies, so it fits).
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    I'm just about to pull the trigger on some Five Ten Guide Tennies from Zappos. I hope they fit. DH wants me to try some BMX pedals that he has on another bike before I pull the trigger on some new pedals. We'll see.

    Yesterday, I popped into REI and one of Indy's bike shops. I tried on Shimano, Giro, PI, and Bontrager shoes and none fit to my liking. The Giro's probably came the closest, but the shoe's tongue was horribly stiff and uncomfortable. The rest were too wide in the heel. There are still a few brands I haven't had a chance to try or try recently, but even if I wanted to go clipless, shoes are going to be an issue. I liked the Bontragers, too, but as the salesperson was pressuring me for a sale, all I could think of is "I don't really want to go clipless just yet (or ever)."

    So, hopefully the Five Tens work! I have my eye on a handful of pedals. Straightline AMPs are the top of the list currently. There are so many from which to choose; it's taking me a while to develop a short list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB28 View Post
    the teva links mid come in smaller sizes for women. They are even listed under the woman's section, though another page claims that they are mens. who knows, but these have tiny sizes
    Teva® Links Mid for Men | Mountain Biking Shoe at Teva.com

    the others that come to mind, are adidas berm, and Shimano makes a flat pedal mtb shoe too. its very similar in shape to 510 though.
    I chatted w/Teva today, and women are supposed to order 2 sizes down. There are no women's specific shoes like that.

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    OK Ladies, now that I've decided to actually DO this ( shoes/flats) where the heck are you finding all these shoes? LBS in this community have very limited offerings; Zappos seems to be out of a lot of sizes. REI? Where else? Aargh.

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    I think I got my first pair right at 5.10.com and when I wore those out 2+ years later, I found them on sale at chain reaction cycles, but only a few women's specifics for flats...
    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/S...tegoryIDs=1165 If you are looking for a specific model, google, then the shopping category on left sometimes works.

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    yep, i bought mine by just looking at a bunch of outdoorsy shopping sites until i found the best deal (and my size). Another time, i just had to order from 5Ten because my size is wierd.
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    Just FYI, I really like my 5.10 Karver and it's on sale right now at hucknroll:

    http://www.hucknroll.com/five-ten-karver-shoe-womens

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    I ordered some of those from zappos. They got here very quickly, however they are for really wide feet with much more volume than I have. I had to send them back. I've made a list based on this thread and a couple of other web discussions, and will be just going down the list trying things on. It looks like approach type shoes work well, so I'm heading to Mountain Gear in a few days to try the Guide Tennie.

    A place called Onlineshoes.com has Teva impacts on sale right now in sizes above a women's 7. I did find and Adidas Berm men's 6 for $29 on close at Performance. They say it runs narrow so I have my fingers crossed

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    I wear 5.10 Karvers for DH which I find best grip the pedals, and I rarely lose contact.

    I wear Teva Links for trail riding. I tested the Teva's for DH but I found my feet slipping off the pedals on steep descents and fast turns ... can;t have that happening!

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    I have the same Teva Links as the previous poster and I've used them for pretty much everything except gnarly downhill. They fit so much better than my old 5.10s and I actually like that they're not quite so grippy so i can adjust my foot position on the fly. I've got Spank Spike pedals and the combo seems to be working great. I've never had the foot-flying-off-the-pedal-calf/shin burger problem for what it's worth. And they're stylee enough to wear with jeans like skate shoes!

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    the karvers and impacts are as grippy and bulky as they get. There are times i wish i got the freeriders, but 510 barely has ANYTHING in my tiny feet size! They had white freeriders in my size, i guess i was judging the color too much.

    anyway, i hear that the freeriders are a tad less grippy than Karvers. Probablly somewhere between Karvers and the Tevas? (i know some of you have foot width issues, so it's not for everybody).
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    Mail order it is.
    Last edited by formica; 10-02-2012 at 03:57 PM.

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    What's everyone's thoughts on pedal platform size in relation to shoe/foot size? The reason I'm asking is today I looked at some 25 Predators, and some Deity pedals. The Predators were a good 1" wider through the axel than my foot with shoes on, and that just looks big to me. Does foot size relate to what you want on your pedal?

    thx!

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    Love my Flyxation Mesa 61 Alloy Pedal. Lightest pedal for under $100 I could find. I run them with five ten chase shoes. Awesome set up; I bleed a lot less on the trail then when I have my egg beaters on

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    Just FYI. In these last days of www.hucknroll.com (before they close at move online to www.competitivecyclist.com), I used their promo code SAVE50 to score a pair of Teva Links for just over $50 with free shipping.

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    Update: Narrow foot success! Teva KID Links. Yay! Converting kid sizing to women's sizing took order four pairs of shoes to get it right... thank goodness for free shipping. I wear a ladies 7-occasionally a 7.5, and a kid 6.5 was perfect, especially in the width. I don't think of myself as having a narrow foot, but so far everything I'd tried was way too wide and sloppy.

    So, there's another option. I got mine from Shoebuy.com....

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