Just thought I'd post an update to an on going deal. I was on the factory outlet page of the Ellsworth store site today. Not really sure when this started, but the Epiphany SST Frames now include carbon shock stays (12x142). I ordered mine a while ago, before the carbon stay where a included, with aluminum stays (10x135). My experience was a good one; the sales team hooked me up with color options; not only saved me money over the rude Flea Bay seller's offer, but they threw in the bling kit and rocker of my choice.