Your recent price match request was declined for Shimano XTR Trail BR-M988 Disc Brake, Right, Rear Brake, No Rotor in the amount of $189.98. The reason for the decline will be stated below:
Sorry, we cannot match prices with Bluesky Cycling on Shimano product. Bluesky is selling OEM product without packaging (not the same as our new product) without disclosing this to the consumer. The Jenson USA item you are requesting a match on is brand new in Shimano retail packaging with USA warranty.
Called bluesky they are selling the full retail version. Jenson's price match policy a joke. They make up ******** excuses whenever they want.
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Jenson assumed it was OE. Just like they assumed the the rims were out of stock (they arrived in 3 business days) jenson refuses to price match again , and just like they assumed the eggbeater SL pedals from blusky were OE (they were full retail packaging including cleats). They make up excuses not to price match. If anyone wants proof I can give it to them I have invoiceof the rims I ordered arriving within 3 buisiness days, and I have the invoice of the eggbeaters and shots of 4 pairs of them in my basement still in their box.
What would be better is Jenson changed the wording on their price match to say "We price match most competitors, but if it's too low then we won't" I would not fault them for it. Just quit with the bull excuses it just pisses people off.
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Think about it this way. A company says on their site "Price Match" yet they refuse to price match certain prices because they happen to have inside knowledge of the other businesses practices. How is the customer supposed to which are legitimate claims and which were fabricated in order to skirt their price match guaranty? The customer had no way of knowing who is telling the truth. They choose who and when to price match and customer are left guessing as to who and what to believe
i asked a jenson rep how do they know blue sky sells oem stuff. the rep said they have bought most of the shimano items blue sky has from time to time, to check to see if it is oem or not. everytime time all the parts came in a plastic bag, no retail packaging.
FWIW, I've bought a bunch of stuff from Blue Sky Cycling over time. The items on sale. I've never received retail packaging on anything except for saddles. Every time I shop Blue Sky Cycling, I expect OEM packaging, but I'm not one who really cares. The only OEM item that would concern me are tires as OEM is not always to the same spec as retail. They are sometimes heavier or thicker and stiff and hard.
FWIW, I've bought a bunch of stuff from Blue Sky Cycling over time. The items on sale. I've never received retail packaging on anything except for saddles. Every time I shop Blue Sky Cycling, I expect OEM packaging, but I'm not one who really cares. The only OEM item that would concern me are tires as OEM is not always to the same spec as retail. They are sometimes heavier or thickerand stiff and hard.
Jenson price matched a set of pedals for me on my first and only purchase with them. It took about an hour and was easy like Sunday morning. I avoided shipping and jipped the Fed out of their taxes. I'll definitely use Jenson again.
I find jenson to be hit and miss. I did get them to match a cassette that I found cheaper on amazon and a set of bb7 160mm that was 39.98 on price point. I do feel like they do the best they can. I have nothing but good things to say about Jenson or bluesky.
If you only shop at places that claim to be price matching, instead of just starting with whoever has the cheapest price, you're a complete moron and deserve to be treated as such.
Aside from the overreaching global comment... I do the above to avoid shipping charges and/or taxes. If I'm getting free shipping from another retailer, it would be better to order more from them. Because if I start a new order with another vendor, I might not order enough to avoid shipping charges. So if the first vendor is willing to pricematch, I'm able to get the cheapest price (or sometime the cheapest that they can do) and free shipping. Am a still "a complete moron and deserve to be treated as such"?
The only thing that sucks about the Jenson price match is that they sometimes dont offer the parts I'm looking for . . . so I cant match the price and use their free shipping policy as well. :thumbsup:
Just purchased the 2012 group from Total Cycling. TC's prices are slightly higher and they charge for shipping but, knock on wood, most shipments I get in the mail are not charged any taxes/duties for some unknown reason. Even if I do end up having to pay tax, the shipping cost+higher price probably equals the UPS brokerage fees so the difference would be minimal.
I estimate that I've saved over 300 bucks using Jenson's price match. Saved 75 on a fork, 60 on a crankset that is guaranteed for *life*, and lots of little 10's, 15's and 25's here and there. I know that if I find a lower price on the SAME EXACT, in stock item somewhere else, Jenson's will match it - never had them say no. If I'm too busy to go get something and I don't need it ASAP, I just have them ship it to me - here in a day or two and their free shipping starts at 50 bucks. Just saved 24 bucks on a Weirwolf TCS - 45 bucks. Jenson's is my go to place - literally; they're right down the road, so they're also my LBS. Their Riverside place is kinda neat too, Just a little office with a couple of bikes, a few tires and computer terminals for looking items up. You give 'em your part numbers and they go to the warehouse and grab your parts. I've gotten a couple of warehouse tours as well - their warehouse is amazingly large. I've never had a bad experience with them (probably 30+ transactions, at least 10-15 price matches), and I know that if I I did, they would bend over backward to fix it.
So...other than the packaging, is there any difference between the XT disc brakes Blue Sky sells and other places like Jenson? Is this just a packaging issue or is the product actually different?
Personally I am all for cheaper prices and less packaging, as long as the product is the same.
So...other than the packaging, is there any difference between the XT disc brakes Blue Sky sells and other places like Jenson? Is this just a packaging issue or is the product actually different?
Personally I am all for cheaper prices and less packaging, as long as the product is the same.
I believe it's packaging and supplies. You miss out on the various plastics that shimano ships their brakes with (pad spreaders, bleed tools) as well as brass olives and barbs, but I think the big miss is that it SOUNDS LIKE the retail versions come with both resin and metal FINNED pads, and the OEM versions come with "maybe metal" non-finned pads. The difference is supposedly minor, but if you buy them separately, it's $40 more.
JensonUSA priced matched a few things for me from outlet stores where they were probably losing money on things or the margin was super small. I remember PM'ing an outlet clearance sale from Department of Goods and they honored it, though they told me not to share the PM code (was their old website). I'm a local who rides with them, so could have been someone who knew me and hooked me up at risk of endangering their job.
Just for theory testing purposes, I'm gonna try PMing this store:
On top of the online store's poor rep, this Camelbak is priced so low that margins would be razor thin, if they were making money at all, according to an inside source who can purchase these at cost through their employee discount (who couldn't say exactly how much it costs them). Should have official reply tomorrow. What do you guys think, JensonUSA will approve or reject?
I assume JensonUSA can pull their "authorized dealer" flag on it, as this shop claims to buy out stock from authorized dealers and manufacturers, and probably isn't one. I know TreeFortBikes and other semi-auto PMs can auto-reject for prices that are too low. I suppose they can make an exception too, using that catch-all they have, saying PM terms can change at any time. I'd be more surprised if they do match it, though people could reason it's a "bro deal" and prob a rare exception.
Some may ask, why not just order from 6pm? Uh, did you see those reviews and all the "value added" services JensonUSA adds on to all purchases made through them? Hard to put a value on them, but they definitely cost something to have employees supporting 'em, like warranty services and having enough warehouse workers to get things out on a tight schedule.
Don't think shimano retail brakes are any diff from OEM, besides the packaging. They both come in versions with and without IceTech pads. Shimano doesn't include adapters and rotors with retail either, as they want ya to buy them separately to suit your bike and your riding.
I know SRAM OEM brakes might not come with the olive nuts parts for shortening the hose properly, nor rotor, nor adapters, while their retail kits do. I know OEM cranks don't come with BBs included. In general, OE parts are diff from retail. I think the warranty may limited too, and is up to the seller, rather than direct with Shimano or just any authorized Shimano dealer. What if BlueSky isn't dedicating anyone to be a warranty rep for Shimano and other vendors? JensonUSA definitely has one, as I've been in their HQ. Take an OE part for warranty to a bike shop and they'll ask for proof of purchase maybe... and if it's not retail or something they sold, maybe they won't spare their man power to handle your case and just say take it to where you bought it.
Was chatting with Jenson guys earlier and they were talking about how they bought warehouse stock that included this Shimano stuff, and earlier it was new old stock from Easton (maybe those non 31.8mm riser Monkeylite bars, etc). They were stacking Shimano stuff up to the ceiling, in a warehouse that's not near full capacity.
If you mean overpriced with attitude then you are correct.
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