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    New question here. how low can they get?

    I'm looking in to buying an new ellsworth moment during my search to find the best deal i came across a site that is literally to good to be true!!!! , i was wandering if someone knew of them or bought from them in the past. i'm afraid it could be a scam.

    the store : http://www.webikes.com/index.html


    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackmailthebunny
    I'm looking in to buying an new ellsworth moment during my search to find the best deal i came across a site that is literally to good to be true!!!! , i was wandering if someone knew of them or bought from them in the past. i'm afraid it could be a scam.

    the store : http://www.webikes.com/index.html


    thanks

    Uhhh...scam. They only accept Western Union.
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    these kind of people piss me off. it shouldnt be wrong to kill them in the face.

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    I vote scam too.

    If its too good to be true, it usually is.

    A good clue is that they carry Specialized and Cannodale. Neither of these mfg allow direct internet sales.

    If you are not sure, contact Elsworth and ask about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ziscwg
    I vote scam too.

    If its too good to be true, it usually is.

    A good clue is that they carry Specialized and Cannodale. Neither of these mfg allow direct internet sales.

    If you are not sure, contact Elsworth and ask about them.







    I guess you're right , i sent ellsworth a email , just haven't gotten a response yet ....



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    Domain Name: WEBIKES.COM
    Registrar: REBEL.COM CORP.
    Whois Server: whois.rebel.com
    Referral URL: http://www.rebel.com
    Name Server: NS1.HOSTICAN.COM
    Name Server: NS2.HOSTICAN.COM
    Status: clientTransferProhibited
    Status: clientUpdateProhibited
    Updated Date: 28-mar-2008
    Creation Date: 25-feb-2008
    Expiration Date: 25-feb-2009

    Rebel.com is in Canada which sounds suspicious for a Spanish company.

    at least the address looks like a warehouse district rather than a residential district. And it is a Distribution warehouse but the actual warehouse address is 11130.

    California Distribution Headquarters
    11130 Bloomfield Avenue
    Santa Fe Springs, CA 90670
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    Way too cheap. Sounds like a scam.

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    Domain webikes.com

    Date Registered: 2008-2-25
    Date Modified: 3/28/2008
    Expiry Date: 2009-2-25
    DNS1: NS1.HOSTICAN.COM
    DNS2: NS2.HOSTICAN.COM

    Registrant

    George Wilson
    300 Reunion Boulevard
    Dallas
    TX
    US
    75207

    Administrative Contact

    George Wilson
    300 Reunion Boulevard
    Dallas
    TX
    75207
    US
    +1.(214) 752-8670
    geow20@yahoo.com

    Technical Contact

    George Wilson
    300 Reunion Boulevard
    Dallas, TX (US)
    75207
    +1.(214) 752-8670
    geow20@yahoo.com

    Registrar: Rebel.com
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    Sounds like a scam on many levels. Read the testimonials too. They seem like they were all written by the same person.

    other red flags:

    Mention of a SPANISH Online Sales Association
    HO in Madrid
    US Warehouse NOT open to public
    Only Western Union and Money Transfer
    Selling Specialized online

    Yeah, please don't fall for this. Besides some bad spelling, they put a lot of thought into making things sounds legit.

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    Yea the testimonials were too good to be true as well. Like everyone has pointed out the super low prices are definitely a sign. I would definitely avoid it.
    There is not much choice between rotten apples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rod
    Yea the testimonials were too good to be true as well. Like everyone has pointed out the super low prices are definitely a sign. I would definitely avoid it.
    Testimonials copied from:
    http://www.ibexbikes.com/testimonials_index.html

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    Thanks everyone, i appreciate all your comments and help, i will take your advice and avoid buying there..

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    everyone should order bikes from them to keep them busy doing useless invoices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jroandotb
    Now that is just TOO FUNNY!

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    go talk to your local REI, they are an Ellsworth dealer and I know the seattle store has a Moment or two still they are clearing out. last i heard the price was around 3200.
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    100% SCAM

    Every couple of months this website renames itself - same content - same addresses and story - just a different fake company name.
    There's quite a few people that would like to meet the people behind this scam in a dark alley one night....
    Santa Cruz Blur: Edmund Woods Bicycle Shop?

    There's a couple of other scam sites out there (based in Asia), the content I've seen on the others is really basic and using one of those simple design your 4 page web page wizard apps. So they're a little easier to spot.

    By the way - 300 Reunion Boulevard is a Hyatt hotel - so good luck tracking George Wilson down!

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    Beware that this is another scam site: http://www.esbikes.com/ This wanker copied our website to scam the gullible. You have been warned.

    And yes I would love to meet this guy in a dark ally.

    Same Dude:

    Registrant/Administrative Contact/Technical Contact:

    George Wilson
    300 Reunion Boulevard
    Dallas, TX 75207
    +1.(214) 752-8670
    geow20@yahoo.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hand/of/Midas
    these kind of people piss me off. it shouldnt be wrong to kill them in the face.
    I'm a little confused. What exactly does that mean? If one 'kill[s] them in the face' does the rest of the body live?
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    Quote Originally Posted by galen1
    Beware that this is another scam site: http://www.esbikes.com/ This wanker copied our website to scam the gullible
    That's insane! If someone copied my site I'd be livid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hand/of/Midas
    these kind of people piss me off. it shouldnt be wrong to kill them in the face.
    I'm a little confused. What exactly does that mean? If one 'kill[s] them in the face' does the rest of the body live?
    “I don't like jail, they got the wrong kind of bars in there”

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    Trust me it came as quite a surprise.

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    Wow wouldn't that be sweet if it was real? I've had dreams about those types of deals... good dreams.
    On the other thread they talked about trying to get your LBS to price match them.

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    I wonder if cambria or jenson would price match those too??? I guess its worth a shot

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    "We believe in a personal, more accessible approach"

    ...which is why they have no phone number listed anywhere

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