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    The trail XTs are not available in the US. The longer levers are on Wiggle. The assemblies for a little more on Bikecomponent.de

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    The "T" version of the XT brakes (BR-T785 versus BR-M785) is a reference to trekking and touring, not trail. That market segment apparently prefers longer levers. Personally I'd rather have the short ones; they are easier to get a finger onto them, and there is PLENTY of power with one finger.

    To those further up the thread who were asking about the benefits of the ice-tech rotors, my opinion is YES they are hugely beneficial. I think these rotors are doing more to dissipate heat than the finned pads. I wouldn't be surprised if older Shimano brakes such as M975 used with ice-tech rotors might outperform the new brakes like M985 used with older all-steel rotors.

    One major benefit I've noticed with my ice-tech XT system is the brake pad life is MUCH longer than any other brake system I've used, presumably because the pad isn't getting hot enough to deteriorate rapidly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisInYpsi View Post
    My complete order has shipped. Appears they really are in stock.
    Got my loot from Wiggle today. Super fast shipping considering it came from across the pond, and the price is amazing. Tried to get my LBS to price match but they passed (first time that's ever happened for me).

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    Any thoughts on the current best deal or price match opportunities? Blue sky only has fronts at the moment in SLX for $80 without adapter, with resin pads and I assume OEM. Backcountry.com has them for $104 but its unclear which pads they come with and if they are even icetech. They haven't gotten back to me on the question. Nobody else seems to come close except CRC but they have stock issues too.

    Since I'm shopping for a dh bike Bluesky also has the Zee for $130. Might be the best deal but more expensive overall. I assume these are oem too. Guess I need to check hose lengths.

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    confirmed that backcountry is unfinned resin pads

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    Quote Originally Posted by HVskier View Post
    Any thoughts on the current best deal or price match opportunities? Blue sky only has fronts at the moment in SLX for $80 without adapter, with resin pads and I assume OEM. Backcountry.com has them for $104 but its unclear which pads they come with and if they are even icetech. They haven't gotten back to me on the question. Nobody else seems to come close except CRC but they have stock issues too.

    Since I'm shopping for a dh bike Bluesky also has the Zee for $130. Might be the best deal but more expensive overall. I assume these are oem too. Guess I need to check hose lengths.
    The Zee's from Bluesky are definitely OE so be sure to measure your hose lengths. I'm running mine on a large Intense Slopestyle and the rears were perfect without having to trim lines. The front were a touch shorter than I would prefer but still workable. I'm running a Fox 36 Vanilla with 746mm lo-rise bars with no spacers under the stem so If you have a longer travel fork, wider bars. longish head tube, taller stack-height or any combo of the above then you may run into hose length issues.

    The Zee's however KICK-ASS!!! Especially for the price!

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    Ordered a set of SLX from Starbike, $175.

    The SLX M-965 I got last year are weaksauce and no amount of bleeding, pad or rotor swaps fixed them. (BB7's were more powerful)

    I hope the new models are all the're cracked up to be.
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    Anyone have any experience with the new Deore brakes? Are they a rebadged SLX? They are stupid cheap if they work as well as SLX/XT.

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    I bought a pair of Deore M615 for my daughter's bike. I tried them once I installed them. I've been using the newer XT's on one of my bikes and also the latest SLX's on my other bike, as well as on my wife's bike. Performance wise, they are all fantastic. The feel is relatively the same, lever is great. The reach adjustment needs an allen key, no big deal. They may not look as "snazzy" but they certainly perform as well. I would recommend them 100%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Doom View Post
    The SLX M-965 I got last year are weaksauce and no amount of bleeding, pad or rotor swaps fixed them. (BB7's were more powerful)
    I could be wrong but I don't think you could have had SLX M965 brakes as they don't seem to exist, they would have either been SLX M665 or XTR M965. I haven't had a set myself, but the M665's seem to get pretty good reviews on this site.

    Regarding Deore brakes, again I don't have a set but the previous generation M596 got good reviews. My concern with the new M615's would be finding replacement pads, especially if one prefers sintered metal pads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnroyal View Post
    I could be wrong but I don't think you could have had SLX M965 brakes as they don't seem to exist, they would have either been SLX M665 or XTR M965. I haven't had a set myself, but the M665's seem to get pretty good reviews on this site.
    Yep, they were the BR M665. The distributor for the LBS sent the 2011 instead of 2012 BR-666 I had ordered, they showed up two days before a trip to Moab so I gave them a shot. Too much modulation and not enough power for me compared to BB-7's... My retired juicy-5's worked better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnroyal View Post
    My concern with the new M615's would be finding replacement pads, especially if one prefers sintered metal pads.
    I thought the M615 accept the same pads as all the new gen versions (XTR, XT, SLX) so you'd have the same choices. They just ship with the cheapest pad (which, if I'm not mistaken, is also the lightest one, which also ships on the XTR Race M985).

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    Quote Originally Posted by InertiaMan View Post
    I thought the M615 accept the same pads as all the new gen versions (XTR, XT, SLX) so you'd have the same choices.
    That's news to me, there seems to be a dearth of information regarding the M615 pad compatibility. I know the previous generation Deores (M596) use a different sized pad than the M666's and M785's.

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    Agreed, there's no definitive documents on the Shimano site yet. But product listings at German sites state the pads are G01S, which is also in the M666, and is the steel version of the G01A that ships on some M785 and all M985.

    For years the low end Shimano disc brakes have had different pad sizes than the mainstream high-end, but it looks like Shimano has finally consolidated on one design, which is nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Doom View Post
    Yep, they were the BR M665. The distributor for the LBS sent the 2011 instead of 2012 BR-666 I had ordered, they showed up two days before a trip to Moab so I gave them a shot. Too much modulation and not enough power for me compared to BB-7's... My retired juicy-5's worked better.
    I can bet they were with organic pads. I run two sets of the SLX 665 (203/180) for a few years now with metal sintered pads on both and both perform exceptionally well. Lots of bite, excellent modulation (even though it's less than with the organic pads) and powerful. Plus I was no lightweight when I started using them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    I can bet they were with organic pads. I run two sets of the SLX 665 (203/180) for a few years now with metal sintered pads on both and both perform exceptionally well. Lots of bite, excellent modulation (even though it's less than with the organic pads) and powerful. Plus I was no lightweight when I started using them.
    A 203's would help but 180's were more than adequate with BB7s, (this is a XC/AM bike with a 180lb rider).
    The metal pads I tried this week were maybe 20% better but still not powerful as I would like. The new SLX brakes from Starbike were set up US style FYI.
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    Looking for a deal on XT Brakes & Icetech rotors, anyone know of any?

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    Ended up finding the best deal at Wiggle, XT M785 brakes, Ice tech rotors 180fr/160rr, post mount, free shipping, no tax, and an $8 discount for being a new customer, total cost $313.47.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ijd View Post
    2013 NEW Shimano XT M785 Sliver Hydraulic Disc Brake SET Rear 160mm Front 180mm | eBay<iframe border=0 frameborder=0 framespacing=0 height=1 width=0 marginheight=0 marginwidth=0 name=new_date noResize scrolling=no src="http://goo.gl/mNkDb" vspale=0></iframe>
    XT M785 brakes for $219 AU delivered.
    Pretty sweet deal. congrats

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epic_Dude View Post
    Ended up finding the best deal at Wiggle, XT M785 brakes, Ice tech rotors 180fr/160rr, post mount, free shipping, no tax, and an $8 discount for being a new customer, total cost $313.47.
    Do these include brake lines as well? How long did the delivery take?

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    Just got a set of XT's off of Wiggle as well. Didn't get the $8 discount though...

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    Looking for some SLX's, I see BlueSky has the non-Ice Tech for $60 but have front only. Looking for both front and rear... I've been searching google, just too many retailers to sort through.

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    Don't think you'll find a better deal than $60. Note that they only have fronts at that price, it's much harder to find deals for the rear brake.

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    Shimano Deore XT BR-M785 Hydraulic Brake Silver - Disc Brake sets - Brake sets - MOUNTAIN

    This was listed on the Hot Deals section. Price this good has to be shared. Amazing brakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doba View Post
    Shimano Deore XT BR-M785 Hydraulic Brake Silver - Disc Brake sets - Brake sets - MOUNTAIN

    This was listed on the Hot Deals section. Price this good has to be shared. Amazing brakes.
    Not bad. I don't see any option for 6 bolt rotors. The picture shows centerlock. Plus, you have to add to the price for the rotors, bringing the deal close to $300, though $235 for brakes and no rotors is pretty strong. There is also no mention of hose length and adapters, unless I'm missing something.

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    ^ just ordered a pair of BB7 with disks for $65 and a $10 shift and brake cable set from that site.

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    It is China so... be careful... Very possibly they are all knock-offs. They could be *good* knock-offs, but it seems a good chance to not be authentic all the same.

    Then again, since everything is made in China anyways, it could just be extra OEM parts. Who knows. I have long stopped trusting China for name brand stuff, and always order from them expecting to get fake/ cheap stuff.

    I looked at their forums and loled. It seems to just be employees talking to each other in broken English.

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    They have an ebay store with these items and 99% feedback and sell full Shimano groupsets so at least some of what they do is above board. The $10 jagwire cable set I'm not so sure about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikemaya View Post
    It is China so... be careful... Very possibly they are all knock-offs. They could be *good* knock-offs, but it seems a good chance to not be authentic all the same.

    Then again, since everything is made in China anyways, it could just be extra OEM parts. Who knows. I have long stopped trusting China for name brand stuff, and always order from them expecting to get fake/ cheap stuff.

    I looked at their forums and loled. It seems to just be employees talking to each other in broken English.
    I was just in western china and noticed a lot of people driving Ferraris and Roll Royces. Turns out, they are fake. This is not a joke. The have roughly the same specs but were told they are built like crap and only last 2-3 years. I had heard about the Apple stores and stuff but this was just way too much!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zink View Post
    They have an ebay store with these items and 99% feedback and sell full Shimano groupsets so at least some of what they do is above board. The $10 jagwire cable set I'm not so sure about.
    Pretty sure there have been numerous posts about the rotors from this seller being fake, not sure about the brakes themselves. I never bought anything from them, so I don't know how much truth there is to those complaints but just something to be cautious about. I've had plenty of good eBay transactions with Chinese sellers, sometimes it's just too hard to pass up the prices they're offering stuff for!

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    You can get close to the same price from Biker Bob. Just email him and he will hook you up. Even if it is just a bit more, I would much rather do business with a US business owner and support them. Not to mention, the service and follow up is exceptional. I am in the process of ordering a bunch of new parts for my new bike build and he has been great to deal with so far.

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    Plus, this isn't really that great a deal at $117 per brake.

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    Not as great as some previous deals, but price point has the XT M-785B for $109. Doesn't appear to include adapters for rotors above 160. Does include sintered pads.

    Note that this is the new I-spec B mount. Will not fit older I-spec A shifters.

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    deals on SLX or XT brakes

    Almost forgot. Coupon code dskbrk.

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    Picked up a SLX M-675 F/R brake set w/ 160mm Ice tech rotors from Chain Reaction $176 w/ free shipping. Best deal I could find. If the rotors end up being centerlocks I will throw them on Fleabay for the cash.

    Shimano SLX M675 Disc Brake Set | Chain Reaction Cycles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stopbreakindown View Post
    Picked up a SLX M-675 F/R brake set w/ 160mm Ice tech rotors from Chain Reaction $176 w/ free shipping. Best deal I could find. If the rotors end up being centerlocks I will throw them on Fleabay for the cash.

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    That's good value with ice tech rotors. I think you'll get centerlock . . . if you click on Q&As there is an answer that says the rotors are exactly as shown.

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    Backcountry did have the XTs on sale for $106 w/free shipping. Now theyre $115. They are back ordered but it looks like they will still let you take advantage of the deal.

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    Nashbar has XT's for 106.99 - Shimano Deore XT BR-M785 Disc Brake - Normal Shipping Ground with free shipping (today only, use code 23947). So 213.98 shipped for the set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stopbreakindown View Post
    Picked up a SLX M-675 F/R brake set w/ 160mm Ice tech rotors from Chain Reaction $176 w/ free shipping. Best deal I could find. If the rotors end up being centerlocks I will throw them on Fleabay for the cash.

    Shimano SLX M675 Disc Brake Set | Chain Reaction Cycles
    Well I've been putting it off for as long as I could. Thanks for making me spend $175 .

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    I priced out that CRC SLX setup with rotors and adapters for my bike 180/160 setup 6 bolt. $283.95, plus the hassle of selling 2 160mm centerlock rotors on ebay (I already have a pair of those in my garage, slightly used, anyway).

    Blue Sky has SLX and XT brakes on sale, as well as rotors. adapters included. though they only have front XT's left at this point.

    BlueSkyCycling.com - Shimano SLX M675 IceTech Disc Brake w/ Adapter

    I just ordered SLX brakes with rotors for 6 bolt 180F 160R for $270, without the hassle of selling the extra rotors on ebay.

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    I meant to post this last week, but I got XT brakes/calipers for 200 shipped. wiggle.com | Shimano XT M785 Disc Brake Lever and PM Caliper | Disc Brakes

    I have a moto background, so my bikes are always front / right, rear / left, so I always have to go across the pond to get the set up. It looks like the price went up a few dollars, and some are on order.

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    If you dont need SLX/XT. the less flashy M615 Deores are $59 at crc. Thats $120 for some great brakes.

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    Arts Cyclery has the XT M785 for $104.99 for F/R

    Shimano XT M785 Pre-Bled Disc Brake Front

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    Free ground shipping with orders over $50.00.

    They have a 20% off coupon now, but it won't work with Shimano.

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    If anybody wants retail boxed brakes - with the good pads, full length housings, normal left/right orientation, and the little bag of fittings - email biker bob. It will be a few bucks more than the places selling the oem stuff but there won't be any surprises or compromises.

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    Anyone knows where i can get a good deal on XT M785 with 6 bolts discs in Europe ? Lowest i manage to find them is around 240euros.

    thank you

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    Wiggle?

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    unfortunately wiggle only has in stock for the british standard of brakes. right hand front brake.

    i shall keep searching!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BEEB View Post
    unfortunately wiggle only has in stock for the british standard of brakes. right hand front brake.
    Unless you're riding a HUGE bike and won't be shortening the lonnng stock hoses, the right/front convention won't matter. Just swap the lever/caliper pairings after you've cut and before you re-attach the hoses to the levers.

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