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    Best deal on 29er XC Tubeless Wheelset?

    Looking for decent wheel set UST preferred but not necessary. Anyone know who's having good deal right now?

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    I got my Sun-Ringle Charger Expert wheels from AE Bike for under $350 shipped. They may be too much for XC but the Black Flag Experts for $332. The rims use Stans BST and come pre-taped with the valves and sealant. I mounted my Specialized 2Bliss tires with a hand pump it was so easy and I have had zero issues. They hold air great, don't burp, and ride nice. The rear hub has a nice 30 poe freehub body that is plenty durable as well.

    http://aebike.com/product/sunringle-...e2205-qc30.htm

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    I have a pair of salsa semi w/ xt hubs, forsale in the classifieds $200. Great condition used for 1 season on x/c bike by 145 pound rider.

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    Jenson has Stan's Arch 29 with SRAM hubs

    Rear, Quick Release Ships in 1-2 weeks $179.99
    Front, 15mm Throughaxle In Stock $195
    Front, 20mm Throughaxle In Stock $205
    Front, Traditional Quick Release, Ships in 1-2 weeks $165

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    Try Universalcycles.com. They have a pretty cool wheel-builder page that I had alot of fun experimenting with. I went with WTB Trail TCS 29'er rims and XT hubs for around $350 shipped. TCS is their version of tubeless and I've read good things about the TCS tubeless compatability too.
    Only if I got paid to hang out in my garage and tweak on my bikes...

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    FSA xc-290 wheels set with 20% discount today shipped for about $256.00

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breitness24 View Post
    FSA xc-290 wheels set with 20% discount today shipped for about $256.00
    Where??

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker72 View Post
    I got my Sun-Ringle Charger Expert wheels from AE Bike for under $350 shipped. They may be too much for XC but the Black Flag Experts for $332. The rims use Stans BST and come pre-taped with the valves and sealant. I mounted my Specialized 2Bliss tires with a hand pump it was so easy and I have had zero issues. They hold air great, don't burp, and ride nice. The rear hub has a nice 30 poe freehub body that is plenty durable as well.

    http://aebike.com/product/sunringle-...e2205-qc30.htm
    I was considering some of these but I cant remember where they are $330 - $350 range... They are like $450 on the link...

    Ehh, never mind they are sold out everywhere even for $450 +... Not worth that much IMO...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace5high View Post
    I was considering some of these but I cant remember where they are $330 - $350 range... They are like $450 on the link...

    Ehh, never mind they are sold out everywhere even for $450 +... Not worth that much IMO...
    Bummer...guess that really was a good deal since they're all sold out.

    Probably the Sram X9/Stans Arch wheels are the best bargain...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace5high View Post
    Ehh, never mind they are sold out everywhere...
    Thoroughly you have not looked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eauxgod View Post
    Thoroughly you have not looked.
    I did find them, but I'd rather pay for stans at $450 plus..

    BTW guys the thread is "where are the best deals?" can people actually post the "where" part if they are posting about the great deals... Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker72 View Post
    Bummer...guess that really was a good deal since they're all sold out.

    Probably the Sram X9/Stans Arch wheels are the best bargain...
    Yeah, I thought about building the archs on X.7's from universal. Came in under $350 to do so, problem is that there is almost zero feedback about budget hubs like X7s. I'm not sure if it would be Light enough or if I should just hold out for a stans ztr setup....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace5high View Post
    Where??

    Looks like the FSA xc-290 29" wheels are from Nashbar, 20% off is going on for one more day.
    ----I recommend checking the reviews of them on mtbr, that really dissuaded me from them.

    I really wish the charger expert came in standard QR. Been hoping to find the charger pro's dirt cheap myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace5high View Post
    Yeah, I thought about building the archs on X.7's from universal. Came in under $350 to do so, problem is that there is almost zero feedback about budget hubs like X7s. I'm not sure if it would be Light enough or if I should just hold out for a stans ztr setup....
    I've heard good durability and smooth, but low POE (somewhere between 12-16 poe). I'd personally build them up on the Shimano M629 hubs and use six bolt adapters. Heavy duty 32 poe freehub and reliable cro-mo steel axles (ie none of the issues the XT hubs have had).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker72 View Post
    I've heard good durability and smooth, but low POE (somewhere between 12-16 poe). I'd personally build them up on the Shimano M629 hubs and use six bolt adapters. Heavy duty 32 poe freehub and reliable cro-mo steel axles (ie none of the issues the XT hubs have had).
    The main reason for the upgrade is to cut rotational weight. That centerlock hub is 400grams and the adapter I saw listed as 125grams! yikes... I think Id rather spend a bit more ob the hubs for lighter...

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    Quote Originally Posted by eauxgod View Post
    Were not talking about the Chargers

    "Sun Ringle 29" MTB Wheelset Black Flag Expert"

    and as previously stated, the $350 sets are all sold out.... fcol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace5high View Post
    The main reason for the upgrade is to cut rotational weight. That centerlock hub is 400grams and the adapter I saw listed as 125grams! yikes... I think Id rather spend a bit more ob the hubs for lighter...
    How about $450 for a full Stans build (including their 3.30 hubs)...saves $90 from Stans direct.

    http://www.918xc.com/products/Stans-...Wheelset-.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace5high View Post
    Were not talking about the Chargers
    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker72 View Post
    I got my Sun-Ringle Charger Expert wheels from AE Bike for under $350 shipped....The rims use Stans BST and come pre-taped with the valves and sealant. I mounted my Specialized 2Bliss tires with a hand pump it was so easy and I have had zero issues. They hold air great, don't burp, and ride nice. The rear hub has a nice 30 poe freehub body that is plenty durable as well.

    Really?

    Anyway, check with modernbike.com and they will tell you if/when they expect to have the BF's back in stock at their 339 price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker72 View Post
    How about $450 for a full Stans build (including their 3.30 hubs)...saves $90 from Stans direct.

    http://www.918xc.com/products/Stans-...Wheelset-.html
    Dang, now thats a pretty good deal... Hum...

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    Quote Originally Posted by eauxgod View Post
    Really?

    Anyway, check with modernbike.com and they will tell you if/when they expect to have the BF's back in stock at their 339 price.
    Nice edit there... "I got my Sun-Ringle Charger Expert wheels from AE Bike for under $350 shipped. They may be too much for XC but the Black Flag Experts for $332."

    It was the link he provided I was referring to that jumped to $450 up from $332... Im only messing with you, but I am looking for the Black flags Looks like most are expecting the BF's is august so I may wait unless I find something better before hand..

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    Hey MtnBiker, do you know anything about the X.9's they arent that much more over the X.7's ? you seem to know much about hubs... ;-)

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    Just yesterday I scored a brand new ZTR Arch front wheel for $115 shipped on ebay. A few months ago I got a set of lightly used Flows for $355 shipped. Keep your eyes open and deals like this pop up frequently.

    For the money, the ZTR hubs are great!

    Proof of yesterday's deal watch this sellers auctions, he may be unloading more.

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    My understanding is that the X9 gets a little more machining on the hub body and upgraded bearings...and of course they come in different axle options (but I don't see any info if they are convertible or not). The downside of both that I have seen is low points of engagement (16 poe) which may or may not be a concern for you.

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    Thx Mtnbiker! One more question, Im seriously considering building a set with Universal and need to decide between a few rear Hubs in my price range. Can you provide any input in the few I have listed, or any recommendation on them?

    -DMR Revolver Rear Disc Hub

    -Halo Spin Doctor Pro Disc Rear Hub

    -Ringle Disc Jockey Rear Disc Hub

    -And the SRAM X.7 or X.9 are a consideration

    Just looking for something durable, light, POE is nice and then looks. Thoughts from anyone who owns any of these is much appreciated!

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    Ringle Disc Jockey is basically the hub that comes with the Charger/Black Flag Experts...I'm running the Chargers and it's a nice hub. 30 poe with three rather large pawls, a vocal hub when coasting. Very easy to service the pawls, no special tools needed beyond a couple cone wrenches. The picture UC shows is the old style. Here is what they look like now
    http://www.sun-ringle.com/mtb/hubs/disc-jockey/

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    Ah crud... nevermind. Universal is sold out of just about every hub I listed except the SRAM, I give up...

    Anyone wanna just sell me some dang wheels???!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace5high View Post
    Thx Mtnbiker! One more question, Im seriously considering building a set with Universal and need to decide between a few rear Hubs in my price range. Can you provide any input in the few I have listed, or any recommendation on them?

    -DMR Revolver Rear Disc Hub

    -Halo Spin Doctor Pro Disc Rear Hub

    -Ringle Disc Jockey Rear Disc Hub

    -And the SRAM X.7 or X.9 are a consideration

    Just looking for something durable, light, POE is nice and then looks. Thoughts from anyone who owns any of these is much appreciated!
    I've had wheelsets with both ringle disc jockey and dmr revolver. I liked the ringles but they were not reliable for me. I had the teeth on the hub itself slip and rotate after one year (not repairable) . I've had great luck with the revolver. 2 years running on a 1x9 bike no problems. I just recently built a wheel with stand flows and a dmr revolver. It came out as a nice wheel at a reasonable price

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    Thanks for the help everyone! I finally found a set! Woot! Modern-bike had the black flag experts available as of late today, shipping to me on Monday

    I'm sure its gonna be a very limited amount shipped at their low price so get them now who's ever interested!!

    modernbike.com

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    i baught a wheelset of sun/ringle black flag Pro. it's my first tubeless experience. i maunted easselly a set of irc mythos kevlar tire it's a regular tyre non UST. it was easy to install on the black flag and with all the adapter those wheel will be transferable on my next bike. stiff, kind of lighweight, tubeless easy.

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    ^^ Jim, can you verify the POE on the Pro hub? I've read numbers anywhere from 30 to 72.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyndonchen View Post
    ^^ Jim, can you verify the POE on the Pro hub? I've read numbers anywhere from 30 to 72.
    it's my first wheelset tha ti baught that didn't came with the bike. i've been riding for 25 years but i always keep my bike mostly stock. So i don't know how to verify the POE
    point of engagement
    i notice after 150km of use that the shifting seem faster and accelerate faster

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    After some more reading, the internet consensus appears to be 24 for the Pro hub.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbsport View Post
    So i don't know how to verify the POE
    point of engagement
    Fyi, lift the rear wheel in the air and spin it forward. Count the number of clicks in one revolution, that's the hub's POE. Thanks for your impressions on the wheelset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyndonchen View Post
    After some more reading, the internet consensus appears to be 24 for the Pro hub.



    Fyi, lift the rear wheel in the air and spin it forward. Count the number of clicks in one revolution, that's the hub's POE. Thanks for your impressions on the wheelset.
    Yep i just checked my Blackflag Pro's and it is 24. Btw i just went to them from charger experts which i was happy with but found a deal locally on the Blackflag's i could not pass up.

    first pic of of charger experts on my YS second is Blackflag Pros
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCalNomadRider View Post
    Yep i just checked my Blackflag Pro's and it is 24. Btw i just went to them from charger experts which i was happy with but found a deal locally on the Blackflag's i could not pass up.

    first pic of of charger experts on my YS second is Blackflag Pros
    Nice bikes...but I'm more interested in the Notchback 5.0 in the background. I see an intercooler on the front...what else is in it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCalNomadRider View Post
    Yep i just checked my Blackflag Pro's and it is 24. Btw i just went to them from charger experts which i was happy with but found a deal locally on the Blackflag's i could not pass up.

    first pic of of charger experts on my YS second is Blackflag Pros
    How do you like the Black flags compared to the Chargers? Do you notice the difference in rotational weight and are they holding true for you on the HT's? It looks like you ride a bit more aggressive than I Do...

    Originally I was thinking I might need the Chargers for strength, but so far Ive found the Blackflags to be plenty strong even when cruising over some some jumps (Yes Im guilty ) Course I ride a DS so not too much stress on my wheels...

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    The shimano wh-mt75s are great wheels.

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    White grips?

    I get those dirty just by looking at them!
    The wheel is a extension of the foot

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