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    New question here. WTF do People Actually Seek LOUD Hubs???

    It is asinine, to me, to buy a wheel or hub for the reason that it is loud, noisy, or buzzy.

    I do not get it - AT ALL

    It's like that honda owner who get's a buzz-box tail-pipe that really does nothing for performance.

    I get this logic; "I got this Hadley hub, it's kinda loud, but at least it works great" vs. "can someone recommend me some loud hubs?"

    F-off tool! - I'll sneak up and steal your GF like a ninja in the dark with my XT hub

    (And, no, that's not Gary Fisher - I don't steal Gary Fishers)
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    Being as I've got 2 bikes running DT Swiss 240s with the ratchet upgrade, and 1 bike with an e*thirteen LG1+, I'd say that I've got the "works great" part covered.

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    They're like bear bells...I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Being as I've got 2 bikes running DT Swiss 240s with the ratchet upgrade, and 1 bike with an e*thirteen LG1+, I'd say that I've got the "works great" part covered.
    How do you feel about the noise?
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    You'll try to sneak up with xt huba, but will backpedal over those roots and wont have enough poe to make the section, then fall over. Then, you'll try to convert the hubs...and, oh wait.

    But hey at least they're heavy and quiet and when your bearings go out.....i see what i did there.

    Best part about loud hubs is you can avoid accidents while bombing trails!

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll View Post
    How do you feel about the noise?
    Doesn't phase me one way or the other. When I buy, I buy quality. If it's loud, it's loud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redmr2_man View Post
    ...and quiet and when your bearings go out.....i see what i did there.
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    oh, but they don't go out, do they -
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Doesn't phase me one way or the other. When I buy, I buy quality. If it's loud, it's loud.
    Totally rad man!
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Some people like loud hubs. Don't know why myself. I just finished building a wheelset for a customer with Hope hubs. He trashed the rims but the hubs were in good shape. He like the loud hubs so I rebuilt them with some new Arch rims. He's happy and has a nice set of wheels.
    With that said, I have King hubs on all my bikes road and MTB. Can't argue with quality.
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    initially the idea of owning loud hubs sounds good whereby you can lets riders know you are passing while on crowded trail. the other 'use' for loud hubs is that it will keep me pedalling instead of coasting as the sound gets rather irritating while you coast.

    after owning them for a while, did not like it at all and now i am a happy owner of fulcrum red power with silent hub. i prefer to shout "coming through" instead and say hello to other riders

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    Quote Originally Posted by redmr2_man View Post
    You'll try to sneak up with xt huba, but will backpedal over those roots and wont have enough poe to make the section, then fall over. Then, you'll try to convert the hubs...and, oh wait.

    But hey at least they're heavy and quiet and when your bearings go out.....i see what i did there.

    Best part about loud hubs is you can avoid accidents while bombing trails!
    XTs are 36POI and rear weighs 330g. I've been riding a pair for 3y now without issues.

    Hope's are 285g with aluminium freehub body (Xt is steel) and 24POI.

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    It's for frightening hikers.

    Get real close on the pedals, then freewheel at about two feet away, they'll think it's a giant wasp and dive for cover. By the time they realise it's not a wasp you're through and out of range, they go back to the pub and tell everyone about the giant bug that nearly attacked them today, you sit at the bar and nod sagely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll View Post

    I get this logic; "I got this Hadley hub, it's kinda loud, but at least it works great" vs. "can someone recommend me some loud hubs?"


    Motivation to never coast??? Harley envy??? Put playing cards in their spokes as a kid????


    I don't get it either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.B. Weld View Post
    Motivation to never coast??? Harley envy??? Put playing cards in their spokes as a kid????


    I don't get it either.
    haha up, i tried to convince myself that was one of the reasons for getting a loud hub but i guess i dont get it either

    cheers! and keep the fun between yer legs!

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    I went for a night ride last night and one of the things I was diggin' was how quiet my DT Swiss 340 (?) hub is. It enabled me to do my best trail ninja riding.
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    Yeah, especially annoying on a normally stealth SS.
    Wanted a SS hub, and really had no idea just how loud the Hope trials hub is, even well-lubed.
    Find it both annoying, and yet at times useful. When coasting, sounds like a swarm of angry bees,
    rarely need my bell, has saved me from one blind corner collision, and makes hikers jump.
    Also reminds me of STS who rode the entire Tour Divide on a fixie - respect!

    IME - After 8 rides (geared F/S) an XT-785 exploded, replaced with a Hadley = very smooth & quiet.

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    Well I LIKE THEM I like them because my Hopes have great engagement and have lasted thousands of miles with little maintenance. The noise let's all the others I ride with know I'm not pedaling, so pedal faster and when on the trails in the US a quick free wheel and the hikers hear you coming, works like a charm. You can keep those XTs and their lack of versatility, I'll take my Pro2s, or any of the other hubs that run sealed bearings and high POE - they can run an any axle configuration and have great engagement, none of the fishing for contact when ratcheting through big rock gardens, roots etc.
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    Hopes with lots of extra light weight grease. Silent
    And don't give me crap about it locking the pawls and causing failure. If you use the right grease that doesn't happen.

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    ^^ Do tell - what grease you using, and does it work in cold weather?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    ...You can keep those XTs and their lack of versatility,...
    It's early, and I have just started a cup of coffee, but what else should I want my XTs (or even my Pure's - pretty quiet too) to do to make them versatile?

    Make me a sammich?, decipher code?, pay my taxes?

    right now, they hold my spokes in place/order quite nicely
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyin_W View Post
    ^^ Do tell - what grease you using, and does it work in cold weather?
    I am using tetra gun grease and so far it works great in cold weather. I had some laying around that I use on my competition shooting guns so I figured why not give it a try. I've also never had any issues using it in the cold on guns either. Cold riding for my area is about 30 degrees sometimes a few degrees colder.

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    I'll take a loud hub any day over squeaking brakes.

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    You let me know when your XT's can swap from 10mm QR to 10mm solid/bolt on to 12mm TA,or front from 9mm QR, to 9mm solid/TA, to 15mm TA, or 20mm TA all in about 5 minutes.

    Sometimes your trolls are so dumb

    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll View Post
    It's early, and I have just started a cup of coffee, but what else should I want my XTs (or even my Pure's - pretty quiet too) to do to make them versatile?

    Make me a sammich?, decipher code?, pay my taxes?

    right now, they hold my spokes in place/order quite nicely
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    I ride a loud rear hub. At first all I could hear was my hub, now I hardly notice it. I made my purchase based on dependability reviews, sealed bearings, and replacement part availability. Overall I have been very pleased with the performance and I have no idea how many POEs my hub has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    You let me know when your XT's can swap from 10mm QR to 10mm solid/bolt on to 12mm TA, to 20mm TA, or front from 9mm QR, to 9mm solid/TA, to 15mm TA, or 20mm TA all in about 5 minutes.
    ^^^ this ^^^

    There are four bikes in my household with three different front axles and two different rear axles. Sticking to one brand of convertible hubs + conversion kits == I can mix and match wheels as needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    You let me know when your XT's can swap from 10mm QR to 10mm solid/bolt on to 12mm TA, to 20mm TA, or front from 9mm QR, to 9mm solid/TA, to 15mm TA, or 20mm TA all in about 5 minutes.

    Sometimes your trolls are so dumb
    I agree that the axle adaptability found in the higher end (noisy hubs) is a great thing to have.

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    Hey LyNx why would you need this many configuration options on one hub? Do people really swap wheels and axles on thier bikes that often?

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    Couldn't agree more. I HATE loud hubs. My Eastons, are, as advertised, totally stealth:

    http://www.eastoncycling.com/en-us/ea70-xct-832

    I just recently borrowed two different bikes (one, a Cannondale with SunRingle and the other a Specialized Epic with I don't know what hubs), and the loud hubs on both were absolutely torturous.

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    Well, let's see, I have 3 completely different bikes, 1 rigid, 1 HT and 1 FS and the forks all use a different front axle setup - 9mm, 15mm and 20mm. If I have 3 wheelsets, and each one can only be setup/used with the specific axle configuration for it's bike, then if I want to change tyres for some reason I have to actually physically swap tyres on and off that wheelset for that bike.
    Now if I have 3 wheelsets with hubs with the versatility I speak of, where the hubs can easily be converted to work with any standard, then I can run different tyres on each wheelset and mix and match as the weather, terrain, my preference or ride dictate, much more versatile, much easier, more funner

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    Hey LyNx why would you need this many configuration options on one hub? Do people really swap wheels and axles on thier bikes that often?
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    I like louder simply for the assurance that the teeth are engaging firmly. Lighter the hub, stronger the pawl springs, louder the resonance. As one remarked, pedal to remain silent

    I do a lot of city riding where pedestrians jaywalking are a major nuisance, so having some noise emissions saves me from having to yell or use the horn. My shimano-hubbed bike is always getting people walking in the way, Coda hubbed one barely ever.
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    I never know until I have the hub in hand, If it's loud, it's loud.
    I can't afford do be picky on everything, so I find good quality at the best price possible.
    Looks and sound unfortunately are not worth the extra cost or worry.

    My current build is DT on the front and BHS no names on the back, one has great reports, one has good reports... I never even thought to ask how loud they were...

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    i way prefer loud hubs...to alert hikers so i don't have to call out to them.
    whatever...

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    My AC AMs are almost dead silent and I love them you get to see more wildlife that way.
    My buddy upgraded to CK hubs and was disappointed they weren't louder. He also couldnt figure out why he doesn't see deer anymore

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    I've got ZTR HD 3.30s, which I don't believe is considered a loud hub...but it sure is louder than I'd like. Rode my stock hubs on a street ride today, and boy it was nice to ride a silent rear hub.

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    I love loud hubs, if you can here it, it is time for you to GTF out of the way!

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    Quiet Hadley is a beautiful thing
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    I love my i9, sure it's loud but look how much I save on the bell, plus I'm not going to know the difference riding thru the trail litter with rattlers

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    I like loud hubs, They are only loud when you are not pedaling so just pedal.

    They are real good for getting people you catch on the trail out of your way, They just hear a loud free hub that wasn't there last corner & get out of your way fast.

    Sure I wouldn't buy a hub just because it is loud, but If it's a good hub & It's loud all the better, Anything to stop me from being lazy is a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Doesn't phase me one way or the other. When I buy, I buy quality. If it's loud, it's loud.
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    It's kinda like red shoes and shaving your legs, they indirectly make you faster because you have to measure up to the hype

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    if you do encounter lotsa wildlife/hikers while riding on your regular trail. it does help to make riding safer i guess

    nevertheless, loud hubs or silent hubs it does not really matter if hubs are of good quality

    would not mind riding with mates with a loud hub, just make sure he/she is riding in front of the pack

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    loud or quiet---i like high poe... with that usually comes some noise.. current hubs ae hadley---kinda loud but worked great..like that they are us made by a small shop with love.. rode them for about 2 years with zero service---so stopped by hadleys shop to see if i could get some advice on how to service them... Mike hadly himself(along with his coolwife suzanne) said to bring them in and he ended up servicing them for me... even swapped out a axle to a newer spec for me..After he seviced them--they are now almost silent and work better then ever--with customer service like that==customer for life.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Well I LIKE THEM I like them because my Hopes have great engagement and have lasted thousands of miles with little maintenance. The noise let's all the others I ride with know I'm not pedaling, so pedal faster and when on the trails in the US a quick free wheel and the hikers hear you coming, works like a charm. You can keep those XTs and their lack of versatility,
    I'll take my Pro2s, or any of the other hubs that run sealed bearings and high POE
    - they can run an any axle configuration and have great engagement, none of the fishing for contact when ratcheting through big rock gardens, roots etc.
    You don't really think Hopes have High POE do you ?

    I have owned 3 sets of Hope Hubs & not had any problems with any of them.
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    Yes, yes I do, mine do at least, I ride the Trials/SS hub, has 48 POE

    Quote Originally Posted by muzzanic View Post
    You don't really think Hopes have High POE do you ?

    I have owned 3 sets of Hope Hubs & not had any problems with any of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mimi1885 View Post
    I love my i9, sure it's loud but look how much I save on the bell, plus I'm not going to know the difference riding thru the trail litter with rattlers
    Saving 20 bucks on a bell is certainly one way to justify spending a grand on a wheelset.

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    Personally, I prefer quiet hubs. 4 months ago, I picked up a new set of wheels with Hope hubs. I knew they would be loud. Fast forward 4 months and I don't even notice it while riding. I bring my bike to work twice a week to ride after 5 pm. Not wanting to leave it on the rack all day, I bring it in the office. Several times, while walking down the hallway, co-workers have mentioned how loud it is and if I had cards in my spokes.

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    I like loud hubs because having a bell on your bike is annoying, and sneaking up on hikers and slower riders isnt the safest thing ever. I dont notice the noise while actually riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redd4573 View Post
    Hey LyNx why would you need this many configuration options on one hub? Do people really swap wheels and axles on thier bikes that often?
    Yes, why not? I swap my hope set quite a few times, from 9qr to 15qr to 20TA and 24mm(though I don't redish the hub). Kudo to Hope they do make the front very easy to swap out to different format.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll View Post
    It is asinine, to me, to buy a wheel or hub for the reason that it is loud, noisy, or buzzy.

    I do not get it - AT ALL

    It's like that honda owner who get's a buzz-box tail-pipe that really does nothing for performance.

    I get this logic; "I got this Hadley hub, it's kinda loud, but at least it works great" vs. "can someone recommend me some loud hubs?"

    F-off tool! - I'll sneak up and steal your GF like a ninja in the dark with my XT hub

    (And, no, that's not Gary Fisher - I don't steal Gary Fishers)
    For Starter, Delll, a Hadley hub is damn quiet when properly maintained and the pawls are in an oil bath, as they should be.... Lack of maintenance makes them noisy, and they are relatively high maintenance hubs. I own two sets of them, and when properly serviced, regularly. I don't hear much out of them at all, as it should be. Noisy hubs, in general, are in need of service.

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    ^^ Yeah, I meant Hopes when I wrote that , but they are still 'loud' compared to others - and brands were not meant to be the focus on the OP. ( I have never heard hadleys, sorry )

    The focus was on why people actively look for hubs that are loud - or even brag to how loud their new xxx wheels are. - That's what I don't get.

    All else being the same, (quality, looks, performance) why would you want LOUD hubs??
    -aside from the 'haha, it's cheaper than a bell'
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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