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    New question here. WTF do People Actually Seek LOUD Hubs???

    It is asinine, to me, to buy a wheel or hub for the reason that it is loud, noisy, or buzzy.

    I do not get it - AT ALL

    It's like that honda owner who get's a buzz-box tail-pipe that really does nothing for performance.

    I get this logic; "I got this Hadley hub, it's kinda loud, but at least it works great" vs. "can someone recommend me some loud hubs?"

    F-off tool! - I'll sneak up and steal your GF like a ninja in the dark with my XT hub

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    Being as I've got 2 bikes running DT Swiss 240s with the ratchet upgrade, and 1 bike with an e*thirteen LG1+, I'd say that I've got the "works great" part covered.

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    They're like bear bells...I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Being as I've got 2 bikes running DT Swiss 240s with the ratchet upgrade, and 1 bike with an e*thirteen LG1+, I'd say that I've got the "works great" part covered.
    How do you feel about the noise?
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    You'll try to sneak up with xt huba, but will backpedal over those roots and wont have enough poe to make the section, then fall over. Then, you'll try to convert the hubs...and, oh wait.

    But hey at least they're heavy and quiet and when your bearings go out.....i see what i did there.

    Best part about loud hubs is you can avoid accidents while bombing trails!

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll View Post
    How do you feel about the noise?
    Doesn't phase me one way or the other. When I buy, I buy quality. If it's loud, it's loud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redmr2_man View Post
    ...and quiet and when your bearings go out.....i see what i did there.
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    oh, but they don't go out, do they -
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Doesn't phase me one way or the other. When I buy, I buy quality. If it's loud, it's loud.
    Totally rad man!
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Some people like loud hubs. Don't know why myself. I just finished building a wheelset for a customer with Hope hubs. He trashed the rims but the hubs were in good shape. He like the loud hubs so I rebuilt them with some new Arch rims. He's happy and has a nice set of wheels.
    With that said, I have King hubs on all my bikes road and MTB. Can't argue with quality.
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    initially the idea of owning loud hubs sounds good whereby you can lets riders know you are passing while on crowded trail. the other 'use' for loud hubs is that it will keep me pedalling instead of coasting as the sound gets rather irritating while you coast.

    after owning them for a while, did not like it at all and now i am a happy owner of fulcrum red power with silent hub. i prefer to shout "coming through" instead and say hello to other riders

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    Quote Originally Posted by redmr2_man View Post
    You'll try to sneak up with xt huba, but will backpedal over those roots and wont have enough poe to make the section, then fall over. Then, you'll try to convert the hubs...and, oh wait.

    But hey at least they're heavy and quiet and when your bearings go out.....i see what i did there.

    Best part about loud hubs is you can avoid accidents while bombing trails!
    XTs are 36POI and rear weighs 330g. I've been riding a pair for 3y now without issues.

    Hope's are 285g with aluminium freehub body (Xt is steel) and 24POI.

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    It's for frightening hikers.

    Get real close on the pedals, then freewheel at about two feet away, they'll think it's a giant wasp and dive for cover. By the time they realise it's not a wasp you're through and out of range, they go back to the pub and tell everyone about the giant bug that nearly attacked them today, you sit at the bar and nod sagely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll View Post

    I get this logic; "I got this Hadley hub, it's kinda loud, but at least it works great" vs. "can someone recommend me some loud hubs?"


    Motivation to never coast??? Harley envy??? Put playing cards in their spokes as a kid????


    I don't get it either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.B. Weld View Post
    Motivation to never coast??? Harley envy??? Put playing cards in their spokes as a kid????


    I don't get it either.
    haha up, i tried to convince myself that was one of the reasons for getting a loud hub but i guess i dont get it either

    cheers! and keep the fun between yer legs!

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    I went for a night ride last night and one of the things I was diggin' was how quiet my DT Swiss 340 (?) hub is. It enabled me to do my best trail ninja riding.
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    Yeah, especially annoying on a normally stealth SS.
    Wanted a SS hub, and really had no idea just how loud the Hope trials hub is, even well-lubed.
    Find it both annoying, and yet at times useful. When coasting, sounds like a swarm of angry bees,
    rarely need my bell, has saved me from one blind corner collision, and makes hikers jump.
    Also reminds me of STS who rode the entire Tour Divide on a fixie - respect!

    IME - After 8 rides (geared F/S) an XT-785 exploded, replaced with a Hadley = very smooth & quiet.

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    Well I LIKE THEM I like them because my Hopes have great engagement and have lasted thousands of miles with little maintenance. The noise let's all the others I ride with know I'm not pedaling, so pedal faster and when on the trails in the US a quick free wheel and the hikers hear you coming, works like a charm. You can keep those XTs and their lack of versatility, I'll take my Pro2s, or any of the other hubs that run sealed bearings and high POE - they can run an any axle configuration and have great engagement, none of the fishing for contact when ratcheting through big rock gardens, roots etc.
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    Hopes with lots of extra light weight grease. Silent
    And don't give me crap about it locking the pawls and causing failure. If you use the right grease that doesn't happen.

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    ^^ Do tell - what grease you using, and does it work in cold weather?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    ...You can keep those XTs and their lack of versatility,...
    It's early, and I have just started a cup of coffee, but what else should I want my XTs (or even my Pure's - pretty quiet too) to do to make them versatile?

    Make me a sammich?, decipher code?, pay my taxes?

    right now, they hold my spokes in place/order quite nicely
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyin_W View Post
    ^^ Do tell - what grease you using, and does it work in cold weather?
    I am using tetra gun grease and so far it works great in cold weather. I had some laying around that I use on my competition shooting guns so I figured why not give it a try. I've also never had any issues using it in the cold on guns either. Cold riding for my area is about 30 degrees sometimes a few degrees colder.

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    I'll take a loud hub any day over squeaking brakes.

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    You let me know when your XT's can swap from 10mm QR to 10mm solid/bolt on to 12mm TA,or front from 9mm QR, to 9mm solid/TA, to 15mm TA, or 20mm TA all in about 5 minutes.

    Sometimes your trolls are so dumb

    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll View Post
    It's early, and I have just started a cup of coffee, but what else should I want my XTs (or even my Pure's - pretty quiet too) to do to make them versatile?

    Make me a sammich?, decipher code?, pay my taxes?

    right now, they hold my spokes in place/order quite nicely
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    I ride a loud rear hub. At first all I could hear was my hub, now I hardly notice it. I made my purchase based on dependability reviews, sealed bearings, and replacement part availability. Overall I have been very pleased with the performance and I have no idea how many POEs my hub has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    You let me know when your XT's can swap from 10mm QR to 10mm solid/bolt on to 12mm TA, to 20mm TA, or front from 9mm QR, to 9mm solid/TA, to 15mm TA, or 20mm TA all in about 5 minutes.
    ^^^ this ^^^

    There are four bikes in my household with three different front axles and two different rear axles. Sticking to one brand of convertible hubs + conversion kits == I can mix and match wheels as needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    You let me know when your XT's can swap from 10mm QR to 10mm solid/bolt on to 12mm TA, to 20mm TA, or front from 9mm QR, to 9mm solid/TA, to 15mm TA, or 20mm TA all in about 5 minutes.

    Sometimes your trolls are so dumb
    I agree that the axle adaptability found in the higher end (noisy hubs) is a great thing to have.

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    Hey LyNx why would you need this many configuration options on one hub? Do people really swap wheels and axles on thier bikes that often?

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    Couldn't agree more. I HATE loud hubs. My Eastons, are, as advertised, totally stealth:

    http://www.eastoncycling.com/en-us/ea70-xct-832

    I just recently borrowed two different bikes (one, a Cannondale with SunRingle and the other a Specialized Epic with I don't know what hubs), and the loud hubs on both were absolutely torturous.

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    Well, let's see, I have 3 completely different bikes, 1 rigid, 1 HT and 1 FS and the forks all use a different front axle setup - 9mm, 15mm and 20mm. If I have 3 wheelsets, and each one can only be setup/used with the specific axle configuration for it's bike, then if I want to change tyres for some reason I have to actually physically swap tyres on and off that wheelset for that bike.
    Now if I have 3 wheelsets with hubs with the versatility I speak of, where the hubs can easily be converted to work with any standard, then I can run different tyres on each wheelset and mix and match as the weather, terrain, my preference or ride dictate, much more versatile, much easier, more funner

    Quote Originally Posted by redd4573 View Post
    Hey LyNx why would you need this many configuration options on one hub? Do people really swap wheels and axles on thier bikes that often?
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    I like louder simply for the assurance that the teeth are engaging firmly. Lighter the hub, stronger the pawl springs, louder the resonance. As one remarked, pedal to remain silent

    I do a lot of city riding where pedestrians jaywalking are a major nuisance, so having some noise emissions saves me from having to yell or use the horn. My shimano-hubbed bike is always getting people walking in the way, Coda hubbed one barely ever.
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    I never know until I have the hub in hand, If it's loud, it's loud.
    I can't afford do be picky on everything, so I find good quality at the best price possible.
    Looks and sound unfortunately are not worth the extra cost or worry.

    My current build is DT on the front and BHS no names on the back, one has great reports, one has good reports... I never even thought to ask how loud they were...

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    i way prefer loud hubs...to alert hikers so i don't have to call out to them.
    whatever...

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    My AC AMs are almost dead silent and I love them you get to see more wildlife that way.
    My buddy upgraded to CK hubs and was disappointed they weren't louder. He also couldnt figure out why he doesn't see deer anymore

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    I've got ZTR HD 3.30s, which I don't believe is considered a loud hub...but it sure is louder than I'd like. Rode my stock hubs on a street ride today, and boy it was nice to ride a silent rear hub.

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    I love loud hubs, if you can here it, it is time for you to GTF out of the way!

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    Quiet Hadley is a beautiful thing
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    I love my i9, sure it's loud but look how much I save on the bell, plus I'm not going to know the difference riding thru the trail litter with rattlers

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    I like loud hubs, They are only loud when you are not pedaling so just pedal.

    They are real good for getting people you catch on the trail out of your way, They just hear a loud free hub that wasn't there last corner & get out of your way fast.

    Sure I wouldn't buy a hub just because it is loud, but If it's a good hub & It's loud all the better, Anything to stop me from being lazy is a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Doesn't phase me one way or the other. When I buy, I buy quality. If it's loud, it's loud.
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    It's kinda like red shoes and shaving your legs, they indirectly make you faster because you have to measure up to the hype

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    if you do encounter lotsa wildlife/hikers while riding on your regular trail. it does help to make riding safer i guess

    nevertheless, loud hubs or silent hubs it does not really matter if hubs are of good quality

    would not mind riding with mates with a loud hub, just make sure he/she is riding in front of the pack

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    loud or quiet---i like high poe... with that usually comes some noise.. current hubs ae hadley---kinda loud but worked great..like that they are us made by a small shop with love.. rode them for about 2 years with zero service---so stopped by hadleys shop to see if i could get some advice on how to service them... Mike hadly himself(along with his coolwife suzanne) said to bring them in and he ended up servicing them for me... even swapped out a axle to a newer spec for me..After he seviced them--they are now almost silent and work better then ever--with customer service like that==customer for life.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Well I LIKE THEM I like them because my Hopes have great engagement and have lasted thousands of miles with little maintenance. The noise let's all the others I ride with know I'm not pedaling, so pedal faster and when on the trails in the US a quick free wheel and the hikers hear you coming, works like a charm. You can keep those XTs and their lack of versatility,
    I'll take my Pro2s, or any of the other hubs that run sealed bearings and high POE
    - they can run an any axle configuration and have great engagement, none of the fishing for contact when ratcheting through big rock gardens, roots etc.
    You don't really think Hopes have High POE do you ?

    I have owned 3 sets of Hope Hubs & not had any problems with any of them.
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    Yes, yes I do, mine do at least, I ride the Trials/SS hub, has 48 POE

    Quote Originally Posted by muzzanic View Post
    You don't really think Hopes have High POE do you ?

    I have owned 3 sets of Hope Hubs & not had any problems with any of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mimi1885 View Post
    I love my i9, sure it's loud but look how much I save on the bell, plus I'm not going to know the difference riding thru the trail litter with rattlers
    Saving 20 bucks on a bell is certainly one way to justify spending a grand on a wheelset.

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    Personally, I prefer quiet hubs. 4 months ago, I picked up a new set of wheels with Hope hubs. I knew they would be loud. Fast forward 4 months and I don't even notice it while riding. I bring my bike to work twice a week to ride after 5 pm. Not wanting to leave it on the rack all day, I bring it in the office. Several times, while walking down the hallway, co-workers have mentioned how loud it is and if I had cards in my spokes.

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    I like loud hubs because having a bell on your bike is annoying, and sneaking up on hikers and slower riders isnt the safest thing ever. I dont notice the noise while actually riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redd4573 View Post
    Hey LyNx why would you need this many configuration options on one hub? Do people really swap wheels and axles on thier bikes that often?
    Yes, why not? I swap my hope set quite a few times, from 9qr to 15qr to 20TA and 24mm(though I don't redish the hub). Kudo to Hope they do make the front very easy to swap out to different format.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll View Post
    It is asinine, to me, to buy a wheel or hub for the reason that it is loud, noisy, or buzzy.

    I do not get it - AT ALL

    It's like that honda owner who get's a buzz-box tail-pipe that really does nothing for performance.

    I get this logic; "I got this Hadley hub, it's kinda loud, but at least it works great" vs. "can someone recommend me some loud hubs?"

    F-off tool! - I'll sneak up and steal your GF like a ninja in the dark with my XT hub

    (And, no, that's not Gary Fisher - I don't steal Gary Fishers)
    For Starter, Delll, a Hadley hub is damn quiet when properly maintained and the pawls are in an oil bath, as they should be.... Lack of maintenance makes them noisy, and they are relatively high maintenance hubs. I own two sets of them, and when properly serviced, regularly. I don't hear much out of them at all, as it should be. Noisy hubs, in general, are in need of service.

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    ^^ Yeah, I meant Hopes when I wrote that , but they are still 'loud' compared to others - and brands were not meant to be the focus on the OP. ( I have never heard hadleys, sorry )

    The focus was on why people actively look for hubs that are loud - or even brag to how loud their new xxx wheels are. - That's what I don't get.

    All else being the same, (quality, looks, performance) why would you want LOUD hubs??
    -aside from the 'haha, it's cheaper than a bell'
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Conversely, why would you want a quiet hub all things equal?

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    ^^ same reason that I would want quiet brakes, drivetrain, linkages...
    heeey, Wait a minute!
    Is this a real question?
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll View Post
    It is asinine, to me, to buy a wheel or hub for the reason that it is loud, noisy, or buzzy.

    I do not get it - AT ALL

    It's like that honda owner who get's a buzz-box tail-pipe that really does nothing for performance.

    I get this logic; "I got this Hadley hub, it's kinda loud, but at least it works great" vs. "can someone recommend me some loud hubs?"
    Yes, they do, and this is not new: I want a loud hub

    I suggested an option that did not require a new hub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll View Post
    ^^ same reason that I would want quiet brakes, drivetrain, linkages...
    heeey, Wait a minute!
    Is this a real question?
    Probably not, but I will give a real answer.

    It is easier to make noise while riding a silent bike than to make a noisy bike silent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    Probably not, but I will give a real answer.

    It is easier to make noise while riding a silent bike than to make a noisy bike silent.
    shiggy is now Confucius
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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll View Post
    ^^ same reason that I would want quiet brakes, drivetrain, linkages...
    heeey, Wait a minute!
    Is this a real question?
    The difference is that noise from those parts is a sign that something is wrong.

    In the case of certain hubs with lots of engagement points and strong pawl springs for solid action, the noise is just a byproduct of how the hub works - and it works as intended.

    Personally I don't care much one way or the other - like the OP I primarily think that the hub should work well before anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll View Post
    ^^ Yeah, I meant Hopes when I wrote that , but they are still 'loud' compared to others - and brands were not meant to be the focus on the OP. ( I have never heard hadleys, sorry )

    The focus was on why people actively look for hubs that are loud - or even brag to how loud their new xxx wheels are. - That's what I don't get.

    All else being the same, (quality, looks, performance) why would you want LOUD hubs??
    -aside from the 'haha, it's cheaper than a bell'
    You got a nice surprise waiting, if you've never had a Hadley hub.

    As to why a noisy hub makes sense, I had the same attitude as you, till I got a new trial bike with a totally silent hub. This would be my first encounter with total silence from a rear hub, and it actually made riding logs and that kind of stuff much harder, as I had no way of knowing when the pawls were engaged during back pedaling.

    So now stealth like hubs are off the list for me. Not that I on the other hand need to entertain the entire forest with an Echo trial freewheel to feel comfortable


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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll View Post
    ^^ same reason that I would want quiet brakes, drivetrain, linkages...
    heeey, Wait a minute!
    Is this a real question?
    Those are usually pretty shrill or annoying noises. A decent loud hub doesnt sound like nails on a chalk board like squealing brakes.

    Sounds like a bike should, plus other trail users hear you. Its not bothersome noise to lots of people and its somewhat beneficial.

    I think the guy yelling "rider up/down/on your left/right!" the whole ride gets pretty annoying. Rather just give a "BZZ!" from 100 feet away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saul Lumikko View Post
    ...like the OP I primarily think that the hub should work well before anything else.
    fcuk it, ... I give up

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    One of the perk of having loud buzzing hub is when you follow your buddies down the trail, they kept saying sorry, thinking they are holding you back

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    Well highdell I did learn one thing from this post . That if you do not run a loud hub then you can't possiably ride logs and that sort of stuff. Wow me and my bike did not get that memo because we do it all the time with a Shimano xt (not loud) hub??? and it does work 100% of the time. I am sure those hubs (the loud ones) work great and that it may give reassurance that it is working right, but I will say IF any of these hubs stop working we wil all learn about it the same way, THE HARD WAY

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll View Post
    ^^ Yeah, I meant Hopes when I wrote that , but they are still 'loud' compared to others - and brands were not meant to be the focus on the OP. ( I have never heard hadleys, sorry )

    The focus was on why people actively look for hubs that are loud - or even brag to how loud their new xxx wheels are. - That's what I don't get.

    All else being the same, (quality, looks, performance) why would you want LOUD hubs??
    -aside from the 'haha, it's cheaper than a bell'
    I wholeheartedly agree with you, I much prefer quiet hubs. A Hugi FR, A DT Swiss 240S, and 2 sets of Hadleys, after I blew up DT Swiss Cerits, and Shimano 756's in 2 and 3 months, being a Clyde and climbing around here in the mountains of So Cal was enough of an experiment for me to buy and spend the dough for quality hubs. I run 18 pt on the DT Swiss, and 36 and 72 on two Hadleys. For me,I prefer the Hadley 36 pt engagement with the 3 pawl as being rock solid for my needs and handling the torque I develop, being 6' 5" and 240 pounds wet. They last, and last, and last. But I will be the first to tell you they require frequent maintenance with that titanium carrier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redd4573 View Post
    Well highdell I did learn one thing from this post . That if you do not run a loud hub then you can't possiably ride logs and that sort of stuff. Wow me and my bike did not get that memo because we do it all the time with a Shimano xt (not loud) hub??? and it does work 100% of the time. I am sure those hubs (the loud ones) work great and that it may give reassurance that it is working right, but I will say IF any of these hubs stop working we wil all learn about it the same way, THE HARD WAY
    Except when any freehub is actually working, it is totally silent because you are pedaling. The noise is there when coasting--not working.

    Yes, I have had FHs seize, but I could still pedal.

    Had (only) one hub fail and only freewheel. Made a terrible racket pedaling forward and backward.

    I have never depended on ratchet sound to know when the hub engages. Feel, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Pivot View Post
    Those are usually pretty shrill or annoying noises. A decent loud hub doesnt sound like nails on a chalk board like squealing brakes.

    Sounds like a bike should, plus other trail users hear you. Its not bothersome noise to lots of people and its somewhat beneficial.

    I think the guy yelling "rider up/down/on your left/right!" the whole ride gets pretty annoying. Rather just give a "BZZ!" from 100 feet away.
    I just say "hello!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by redd4573 View Post
    Well highdell I did learn one thing from this post . That if you do not run a loud hub then you can't possiably ride logs and that sort of stuff. Wow me and my bike did not get that memo because we do it all the time with a Shimano xt (not loud) hub??? and it does work 100% of the time. I am sure those hubs (the loud ones) work great and that it may give reassurance that it is working right, but I will say IF any of these hubs stop working we wil all learn about it the same way, THE HARD WAY
    Yes but if someone was sitting on the log you would need the loud hubs to wake them up & get them out of the way.

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    I have both, quite (DT 350's) and loud (Stan's 330) and love them both. I guess my love for loud hubs is more nostalgic, a reminder of my BMX days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steadite View Post
    i way prefer loud hubs...to alert hikers so i don't have to call out to them.
    this ^^^^^ it's better than squaking like a bird all the way down the trail!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mimi1885 View Post
    One of the perk of having loud buzzing hub is when you follow your buddies down the trail, they kept saying sorry, thinking they are holding you back
    +1. I find the chris king buzz to be annoyingly loud, but live with it. I used a heavier grease before I got the actual chris king lube and the hub was much quieter. I have a dt 240 and a dt350 hub and they are both a much better level of loudness.

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    because mountain biking is a sport in which the participants are all egotistical d-bags and we want the other egotistical d-bags on the trail to hear our hub and know that we spent more money on our wheelset than they did. duh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtorlando25 View Post
    because mountain biking is a sport in which the participants are all egotistical d-bags and we want the other egotistical d-bags on the trail to hear our hub and know that we spent more money on our wheelset than they did. duh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtorlando25 View Post
    because mountain biking is a sport in which the participants are all egotistical d-bags and we want the other egotistical d-bags on the trail to hear our hub and know that we spent more money on our wheelset than they did. duh.
    Kinda like a Harley Davidson tailpipe roar? saying "I have arrived"

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    Quote Originally Posted by supersleeper View Post
    Kinda like a Harley Davidson tailpipe roar?
    No, that says I've gone deaf and wouldn't know a real engine if it ran me over.
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    The sound isn't as important to me as the quality of my King hubs.

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    I quite enjoy the soundtrack of a king hub on a flowy descent. The buzz can mesh nicely with my rhythm and helps me judge speed a little better than with a quiet hub. I've gotten so used to it that I don't like riding with anything covering my ears in the winter now. With the sound damped I feel off kilter.

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    That is about the most honest answer yet. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by finch6013 View Post
    Hopes with lots of extra light weight grease. Silent
    And don't give me crap about it locking the pawls and causing failure. If you use the right grease that doesn't happen.
    I concur ... Learned this 40 years ago by accident, and have ran silent ever since.

    My method is a small dab of strategically placed graphite grease ... It doesn't take much.

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    The Echo TR 108pt hub on my trials bike is the noisiest hub I own, and I love it. It has instantaneous ingagement.

    But if you don't like noisy hubs, you will hate my Magura rim brakes and ground rear rim. They honk like a goose being plucked alive.

    Both noises are synonymous with performance in this case though. I guess it's an acquired taste that came with knowing my bike and every part on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thickfog View Post
    What?
    The bike I'm referring too, before the ground rim.




    The hub is an Echo 108 point engagement hub and clicks ALOT. SL 108 - YouTube

    This is a quick clip(not me) of trials brakes honking whle riding a rock.
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    When I started mtn biking my Shimano hubs were silent. Years before kids in the neighborhood were placing card's in their spoke to make "sound" - people are a visually & audibly stimulated. I rode a buddy's bike that had a Ringle DH hub and I thought it sounded pretty cool. I ended up running the same hub the following season. Personally the hub sound was for my personal enjoyment and I don't know anyone that would want hub sound to play for others. Only time I focused on my hub sound was on solo rides where there might be a bit of coasting. A couple seasons ago I decided to try a set of Hope Pro 2 hubs - I finally had a hub that wasn't just making sound it was "noise". I decided @ that point I didn't like noisy hubs. I currently have a DT Swiss hub that can be heard but easily fades if not paying close attention. i could care less if a hub is quiet or loud just as long as it isn't a distracting noise.

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    I have a few silent Shimano hubs (XT, Ultegra), a loud Hope Pro II, and a mostly silent Fulcrum. Initially, I was happy enough with the sound of the Hopes, but it didn't take long for the sound to get to me. I pack the Hope hub/ratchet with Park Polylube, but it doesn't quiet the hub for long.

    While the Hopes work well enough, I'll be looking for something quieter next time around. That said, a loud hub like the Pro II would be nice if I were building a dedicated commuter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Doesn't phase me one way or the other. When I buy, I buy quality. If it's loud, it's loud.
    yep, same here...

    used some kings in the past, now dt240 - not as loud as CK but loud nonetheless...

    don't really care about the noise. dt240 are GREAT hubs... have them on all 3 sets of my wheels...

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    Some riders like loud colors on their bikes.
    Some riders like loud music in their ears.
    Some riders like loud, colorful hubs that are music to their ears.
    There.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn-Rider View Post
    Some riders like loud colors on their bikes.
    Some riders like loud music in their ears.
    Some riders like loud, colorful hubs that are music to their ears.
    There.
    Some like all of those things.
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    I come from road bikes and live in NYC. Tons of people around. Loud hubs are great, they let people know your coming without the dorkiness of putting a bell on your carbon fiber race bike. Also, motivation to keep on pedaling!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Well, let's see, I have 3 completely different bikes, 1 rigid, 1 HT and 1 FS and the forks all use a different front axle setup - 9mm, 15mm and 20mm. If I have 3 wheelsets, and each one can only be setup/used with the specific axle configuration for it's bike, then if I want to change tyres for some reason I have to actually physically swap tyres on and off that wheelset for that bike.
    Now if I have 3 wheelsets with hubs with the versatility I speak of, where the hubs can easily be converted to work with any standard, then I can run different tyres on each wheelset and mix and match as the weather, terrain, my preference or ride dictate, much more versatile, much easier, more funner
    i thought i was the rare sucker, but your setup requirements are similar to mine...

    have 3 different bikes - from 9mm QR to 15QR in the front and from 135mm to 142mm in the back... have 3 sets of wheels and all 3 are completely interchangeable between any available standard within seconds (Roval carbon wheels with DT Swiss hubs).

    Very good point LyNx.


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    Quote Originally Posted by heyyall View Post
    I'll take a loud hub any day over squeaking brakes.
    i love both.

    nothing beats a loud hub and squeaky brakes.

    well, maybe creaking suspension.


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    I love the sound of honking trials brakes, waiting on my new mags to come in and my forks.
    I also have Hopes on my MTB and love the wuzzing sound they make, why I guess I was one of those kids who had cards in the spokes and never really lost the warm fuzzy feeling that sound gave me, I love that sh*t. Now peole will hear me coming, I have tried yelling and that gets tiresome and I had an elcetronic horn, was loud as hell but people would stop and look up when I used it. So I stopped one day and asked the hiker did you not hear my horn, my reply was yes I thought it was a bird and I was looking for it LOL WTF! I was like WOW its sounds like a bird, its loud almost deffening loud, I was like yeah abird you mean a ****ing pterodactyl. RUN MFer!!!!!!
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    If I wanted to be heard, I'd want my hubs to sound like ferocious rattlesnakes.

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    WTF would anyone rag on Hadley hubs? Some of the best made. I have no idea how loud they are nor do I care. Sheesh man get an iPod and then you won't worry about the sound, that's what I do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redmr2_man View Post

    Best part about loud hubs is you can avoid accidents while bombing trails!
    This.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fahza29er View Post
    I love the sound of honking trials brakes, waiting on my new mags to come in and my forks.
    I also have Hopes on my MTB and love the wuzzing sound they make, why I guess I was one of those kids who had cards in the spokes and never really lost the warm fuzzy feeling that sound gave me, I love that sh*t. Now peole will hear me coming, I have tried yelling and that gets tiresome and I had an elcetronic horn, was loud as hell but people would stop and look up when I used it. So I stopped one day and asked the hiker did you not hear my horn, my reply was yes I thought it was a bird and I was looking for it LOL WTF! I was like WOW its sounds like a bird, its loud almost deffening loud, I was like yeah abird you mean a ****ing pterodactyl. RUN MFer!!!!!!

    This forum needs more trials riders.

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    I bought my Eye-nines for the bling, strength, and weight.
    The part where they are stupid loud is just bonus points.

    That being said, the noise keeps me good company when I'm descending behind everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curtboroff View Post

    This forum needs more trials riders.

    Old ones...... With wives and kids.
    Trials rider here, no kids and just a girlfriend.
    About twice as old as the majority of members here though


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Magura View Post
    Trials rider here, no kids and just a girlfriend.
    About twice as old as the majority of members here though


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    Quote Originally Posted by NYrr496 View Post
    I bet anything you're not twice as old as me.
    LOL, sounds like a bad bet

    Approaching 40 here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thickfog View Post
    What?
    I only said what because I can't hear anything anymore after running my hopes for one season.
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    I wasn't sure if I liked my new Chris King SS hubs volume. 3 or 4 rides later I liked it. 3 months later I loved the sound of my bike. Singlespeed very quiet in the woods. Then I coast and love the sound. THEN, riding new XTR hubs and totally silent on gear bike. Love it silent too. Different bikes, different vibes. Really. P.O.E. is most impressive about Kings. I never thought it was a big deal until riding OTHER hubs after getting used to 72 P.O.E.

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