I just finished a 25-mile ride at Big Bear in mostly dry gravel and and had no problems with the same tire on my back wheel. Niner RIP-9, tire setup tubeless on a Sun rim at 28psi; 2.35 RaRa up front. I'm really only running this tire coz someone on this thread dared me to, but it's actually working pretty well for a $10 tire :-)
Originally Posted by Biohazard74
Their casing is sturdy and their rubber compound is pretty grippy. I'd say it feels like MaxxPro (Maxxis 62A?). It even wears down bald in a short manner like MaxxPro. So far, I've tried the Vee8 on my 29 HT and the Trax on my 26 FS, both on the rear since they're so narrow. After about 500 miles, they both start failing to maintain traction on 10+% grade climbs, as the center tread is worn down to about 2.5mm tall. It doesn't help that the tread was only about 5mm tall to begin with.
Overall, I think these are great value tires. They lasted longer than some of the Schwalbe and Contis I had, which died before wearing out the tread, and their performance on hard dry surfaces is similar to Maxxis tires. The performance is definitely there and the current prices make them bargains.
I totally agree that for the money its a great tire. I was using 32 psi front 36 rear. I'm 215 all geared up.
Originally Posted by sdcadbiker
OK, so I found the limits of this tire last weekend (mission 29er 2.0): a long, deep gravel descent (Seven Oaks at Big Bear if you know the area) scared me $h1tless! My buddies all floated down on their 2.3 Ikons while I was all over the damn place! To be fair, any skinny tire would have had the same problem.
Originally Posted by Biohazard74
So, after six weeks and maybe 200 miles on this tire my conclusion is that it works just fine on hardpack, loose-over-hardpack and shallow gravel but anything loose or deep it doesn't do well; also, as other have mentioned, it wears real fast. I have another Mission in the garage and I'll put it on my canyon commuter where it will be perfect.
My test wasn't really fair because Big Bear is a challenging environment for any tire and I was warned that a 2.0 would't work. Despite this, I had no flats or sidewall tears, I don't regret my experiment and I'd be happy to race on this light, grippy and ridiculously inexpensive tire if the trail conditions were right.
LOL,.. sounds like you're taking an XC tire and riding it on downhill terrain! Glad someone is taking it to the limits..
Originally Posted by sdcadbiker
I've got to say, I've ridden in way worse conditions than the tire's tread height and profiles suggest it can do and it handles it WAY better than I thought it would. even in snow..
I really wish they'd make a "Mission +" .. take the tread and raise it like 1/2 again the height.. think the little bit of extra tread would really boost the tire for more "do it all" type. Kinda like Nevegals.. they can kinda do everything OK, but nothing perfect.. think the mission with the taller tread would do it better!
I have some Race-V 29ers, but I haven't mounted them up yet...I'm still using my Duro Switch tires that I got for <$25 for the pair at 29x2.35.
The Race-Vs look nice, remind me of SB8s a bit, but a little more aggressive with lower knobs. I'll recheck weight, but I think it was somewhere around 830gm? On the heavier side...I'll get them mounted up eventually and post up a real review.
mines under 700 grams
Originally Posted by GelatiCruiser
I am looking to purchase either the Flow or Fluid for my Knolly. I ride mostly Norcal trails, AM riding. I want some good hook up in corners, I currently run Hans Dampf but I am not crazy about $70 plus a tire. Anyone have input on either of these Vee Tires and info on running them tubeless on Stans Flow EX wheels?
I've been running Fluid front Flow rear in 27.5 for a couple of months.
Originally Posted by JHart94949
The Fluid I am really impressed with it hasn't let go yet.
The Flow not so much,I did try it on the front & it didn't have the same grip as the Fluid.
On the rear it was just so so , when it started to slide it wouldn't stop even more so with some wear & they do wear fairly fast.
They haven't lost or torn knobs like I remember the the Hans Dampfs tend to do.
As far as weight they are a little heavier than the stated weight on the package but acceptable.
I have them set up tubeless (with a bit of Co2 help) on hookless wide carbon rims, 20 front 25 rear this varies a little dependent on trail conditions.
I just picked up some new Fluids so will try one on the back & see how it holds up.
I have been eyeing Vee Rubber Rail 29x1.75" tyres for my Soma Wolverine.
-any idea if the sizing is true (I've heard that they run small, and if that's the case I might as well take a pair of Knards or maybe Panaracer Gravel Kings - or paerhaps even 1.95" rails if their true width is considerably less than 50 mm).
-the tubeless question: yea or nay? The Wolverine will have Easton Arc 24 rims, that should be good for tubeless use (I have one 27 pair with Ardents and have had no problems).
sizing is dead on.. but the "real" size is smaller than more people think so they look at them as small.. the do expand a bit over the first few weeks. I used to actually over pressure them when not riding when new to get the stretch out done faster.. like 40 lbs or so..
Originally Posted by kyttyra
I run them tubeless.. have the same tires now for 2 years and still sealed even without riding for almost 6 months (medical issues) they've lost a bit of air, but far from flat. i do use Caffe Latex over No Tubes as i find the minor skinning helps over time.
^ok, thank you! I might as well try them, as they can be had at >14€/piece.
Also if I may ask: any comments about rolling resistance, steering and puncture protection?
Here is a Vee Rubber rail 1.75" on Easton Arc 24 rim, set up tubeless. The tire weighs in at ≈600 g, and the initial width was ≈46 mm.
Setting up tubeless was surprisingly easy. I installed the tire with inner tube in order to seat one bead. Then I removed the tube and used a floor pump to seat the tyre. It sealed well with 0,4 dl of sealant and had not leaked air at all overnight.
I had a suspicion that the tire would self-steer at low pressures (as I've heard that vee rubber fat tires self-steer horribly) and I was correct. I had to pump the front tire up to 33 psi - with lower pressures the bike would feel unstable when cornering on asphalt. On the other hand, the tires are quiet on asphalt (comparable to 41 mm knards) and seem to roll well.