Stan's notubes with Panaracer Fire Pro (127 TPI)?
Been trying to hammer this down on net searches, before drilling out my Mavic 719's rims. Just recently purchased the Stan's notubes kit. My current setup is running Mavic 719's with tubes/liners, with Panaracer Fire Pro XC's (Japan 127TPI, folding).
Anyone running the Panaracer Fire Pro's (folding) with the Stan's conversion kit?
Your riding style is XC? any light AM? (Just wanting find out if/when they might burp).
As mentioned, I currently run my Panaracer's with tube/liners, and at the low end of the recommended pressure (35 PSI). Never a pinch flat.
I ask, only because I have a brand new set of those Pro's, sitting in my den, ready to install. Figure converting over to the tubeless setup will help with the rolling resistance, and all that good stuff.
Not trying to stir the tube vs. tubeless war. Just would like feedback if anyone is having success using Stan's with the Panaracer Fire Pro (folding/127TPI) tires. And, as an added benefit, Mavic 719 RIM's.
I tried running my xc Pros with Stans, and the sidewalls leaked like crazy. I have heard you can take shoe goo, and coat the inside to solve the problem, but I havent tried it.
Tried running Fire XC Pros on 719s converted a couple of years ago. Didn't work out very well, the Fires tend to burp quite easily even at the higher end of the pressure range (max is 40psi for a converted rim), not a combination that I would recommend. I don't think the bead on the Fires are aggressive enough to stay really secure. No roll offs, but plenty of burps. I've since run the Fires on a set of Bontrager Mustang TLR wheel with the TLR rim strips that I built up with good success. IMO the more aggressive UST spec bead hook of the Mustangs compensate for the not so aggressive bead of the Fires. This set up was used for XC/Trail at about 35psi, and worked well, no burps or roll offs, and the tire was stable at that pressure. The side walls tended to flex too much at lower pressures. I never had a problem with the tires sealing up, a bit of weeping through the sidewalls initially, but nothing unexpected and nothing that the Stans didn't seal.
So the 719 and Fire XC Pro isn't a combination that I'd use or recommend. Personally I wouldn't use the 719 converted either. I tried other tires on the 719 with mixed results. And these were set up according to the Stans recommendations for the 719s. My personal experience with them leads me to believe that the 719 simply isn't the best rim for a tubeless conversion. That's why I ended up building the Mustangs.
Anyway, your call. You may have better luck with the 719s than I did. But I would highly suggest checking out the Stans site and their set up recommendations for the 719s.
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Thanks for the feedback! You both saved me time, effort, and probably a bit of frustration. I'll look for another combo.