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    Stan's Flow rims vs. DT Swiss 5.1 rims

    Does anyone have any experience with both of these rims? i'm looking to build up a set of wheels and i'm trying to decide between these rims. i want a rim that's wider than the 819 but not too heavy. i know people say that the 5.1's are a little soft, that's why i want to know about the flow rims. they have close to the same profile and specs but i wonder about durability on both of these models. i weigh 215 with gear and want a all mountain wheel taht can take a bit of abuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qbert2000
    Does anyone have any experience with both of these rims? i'm looking to build up a set of wheels and i'm trying to decide between these rims. i want a rim that's wider than the 819 but not too heavy. i know people say that the 5.1's are a little soft, that's why i want to know about the flow rims. they have close to the same profile and specs but i wonder about durability on both of these models. i weigh 215 with gear and want a all mountain wheel taht can take a bit of abuse.
    I would suggest the search function - I must have posted in at least 5 threads on this subject!

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    i did search but i didn't find much. if i had i wouldn't be asking

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    I have seen plenty of dents on 5.1's and Flows. If you want rims that are wide n' light they are going to get beat up. If you are concerned about a rims durabilty beacuse - you are larger than the ordinary rider, agressive rider, pick rough lines buy a heavier rim that will handle some abuse. I wonder if most riders could really feel the difference between a 500g vs. 600g rim ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by keen
    I have seen plenty of dents on 5.1's and Flows. If you want rims that are wide n' light they are going to get beat up. If you are concerned about a rims durabilty beacuse - you are larger than the ordinary rider, agressive rider, pick rough lines buy a heavier rim that will handle some abuse. I wonder if most riders could really feel the difference between a 500g vs. 600g rim ?

    i wonder trhat also. i'm no lightweight and i like to ride agressive, i just have a hard time deciding on a good wide rim. i also looked at sun mtx but i don't know anyone running them.

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    I've used both in wheels built by I9. Both are nice and the Flow might be a tad lighter but the DT just a tad less $. IMO it all boils down to whether you plan to go tubeless. The Flow works much better in tubeless (regular or UST tires) applications.

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    how much do mavic 823 weigh? with nipple adapters and all. I talked with a guy this weekend that rides 823 with pro 2 's and said it was one of the best wheel sets he has owned. rides them XC to DH. The dude was 240lbs doing big gap jumps and 6 foot drops.
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    Flows should work good for you application. I run a set on my Sinister Splinter AM bike and have had no probs with them. I would choose them over the 5.1s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rekibtm
    how much do mavic 823 weigh? with nipple adapters and all. I talked with a guy this weekend that rides 823 with pro 2 's and said it was one of the best wheel sets he has owned. rides them XC to DH. The dude was 240lbs doing big gap jumps and 6 foot drops.

    About 700 g.
    I have them on pro 2's with ti spokes ant they are quite heavy.But are a good heavy rider and agressive rider ust rim.Use them for everything and they are very nice.
    I have a set of i9's with 5.1's and they have been very good.The rims are ok but i have bent 2 of them so badly they needed replacing.I used the stans dt kit and they do work quite well but are not as good as proper mavic ust's.

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    Can you run a regular tire (non-UST) on the flows? Is one rim easier to mount a UST tire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serotta b1kr
    Can you run a regular tire (non-UST) on the flows? Is one rim easier to mount a UST tire?

    Yes you can run a regular (non-UST) tire on the Flows.

    IMO the 5.1 (with rim strip) is a PITA to get a tire on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    Yes you can run a regular (non-UST) tire on the Flows.

    IMO the 5.1 (with rim strip) is a PITA to get a tire on.
    I'm a tire whore and have never had a single mounting problem with the DT rims...1750's

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    Both companies are amazing; DT swiss has been in the business longer, but, dang, Stan the man is coming on way strong w/ improved technology in rim shape, materials, capabilities and performance. can't lose, really, but I'd go stan's flow. i have had both sets. Seen a lot more dents in the swiss. Not that stans is indestrucable...nothing is (but pick up a set of haven carbons if you can). But swiss rims seem to soft for me to pick them first.

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    what about sun eq 27s or 29s? 29s are basiclly the same width as the flows and just a bit heavier but cheap.

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