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    SPIN wheels (not Spynergy) tri-spoke - Rear hub or freehub???????????????????????????

    I have a pair of these classic wheels - Spin composite (thermoplastic carbon fiber, I believe). Approx. 1999 or 2000 vintage.

    The rear freehub grenaded (the 3 pawls fell appart), and the wheels went into storage years ago. I'd like to fix them, cause they are perfect otherwise.

    All I need is the freehub body, and I'm all set.

    Anyone know who made this hub??? (I've been told Bontrager/DT, but cannot confirm).

    Thanks!

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    Hi, i'm french, i have a rear wheel spin tri spoke same as your.

    I have see your post on the mtbr forum , but no reply ...

    Have you find a solution at your problem ?

    My probleme is : the cartridge bearing move into the freehub on the left side.

    Thanks for your Help.

    Pierre Désert From France.

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    Both of you guys would be doing a service to yourselves to post as many internal and external pictures of the hub and its parts as possible, so that hopefully someone could identify what hubs it may share some commonalities with.

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    I replaced mine with an XT hub body, think it was a 2004 model... works fine for me.

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    New question here. Similar problem

    I just got a GT with SPIN wheels. The front wheel came with disc breaks already but the rear wheel is using the regular ones.
    Any advice how to convert the rear one to disc? The frame is ready with the IS holes in place.
    Is there an adapter for this type of wheels? I mean, an adapter for the rotor to attach it to the hub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megaton13
    I just got a GT with SPIN wheels. The front wheel came with disc breaks already but the rear wheel is using the regular ones.
    Any advice how to convert the rear one to disc? The frame is ready with the IS holes in place.
    Is there an adapter for this type of wheels? I mean, an adapter for the rotor to attach it to the hub.
    No there is no way to convert these wheels. They are no longer sold for a reason, they were heavy, harsh riding, and expensive. I recommend saving up for a good set of hand built disc wheels which will be far superior in ride quality and weight. Bicycle Wheel Warehouse has quality hand built wheels starting around $150.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megaton13
    I just got a GT with SPIN wheels. The front wheel came with disc breaks already but the rear wheel is using the regular ones.
    Any advice how to convert the rear one to disc? The frame is ready with the IS holes in place.
    Is there an adapter for this type of wheels? I mean, an adapter for the rotor to attach it to the hub.
    And do not use a broken wheel.
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    First post here! in my research I found the maufacture of the hubs here in onterio Calif! Hadley Racing, (909)946-6780. I spoke to a girl name susan and she confirmed that they did in fact made the hubs for SPIN, but that was such a long time ago that they have no parts for the hubs any longer. Maybe you can call them and see if they can identify the parts required to repair the freehub! Heres a picture of a front hub .
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    Thanks to all

    First tanks to all of you that took the time to read and respond to this thread.
    I haven't been able to take a picture of mine since I'm afraid to remove it from the wheel.
    Also I have been very busy at work and no time to explore my wheel by taking it apart.
    But I'm confident that there is a solution for this problem somewhere.
    I know that eventually I WILL BE RIDING MY BIKE WITH BOTH DISC BREAKS.

    fastzcars, thank you, I'll try Hadley Racing, who knows, they might have something laying around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megaton13
    ... I WILL BE RIDING MY BIKE WITH BOTH DISC BREAKS.

    ....
    Like shig alluded to, You really should fix it beforehand...
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Not to burst your bubble megaton13 but I tried that and she just flat out said NO! And they are not interested in making any new hubs and or have any parts! maybe if we have get a couple of people interested in a group buy we can convince them into making some new ones! That really all depends on how many people we can get. You know money talks!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastzcars
    Not to burst your bubble megaton13 but I tried that and she just flat out said NO! And they are not interested in making any new hubs and or have any parts! maybe if we have get a couple of people interested in a group buy we can convince them into making some new ones! That really all depends on how many people we can get. You know money talks!!!
    So you really think you can find a few hundred people that need hubs for their Spin wheels?
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    Did my first post give the idea that my wheels are broken?
    If that was the case I'm sorry, maybe I should have used different wording to describe my problem.
    Let me explain, my wheels are perfectly fine, I love them! My only problem, well, it's not a problem actually. The only thing that I'm not happy about is the fact that only one wheel (front) is enjoying the company of a disc break device.
    That's why I'd love to find a solution so the rear wheel can partake of the joy of modern disc breaking technology.
    I hate the noise that regular breaks cause on SPIN wheels.

    Shiggy, I have no idea how many SPIN wheel' owners are out there, much less how many of them would like to upgrade theirs to disc breaks. One thing I know, as long as I own this pair I won't stop until I upgrade mine. If the cost of doing them is reasonable I'll gladly spend few hundred bucks of my money on getting it done.

    Unfortunately I'm new at this forum.
    Hopefully little by little SPIN owners will find this thread sooner or later.
    If any of you know how to find out how many SPIN owners are out there and if they would be interested in upgrading, please show me the way, I'll do it. At least I'll try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megaton13
    Did my first post give the idea that my wheels are broken?
    No, but your 2nd, 3rd and this one does...
    Quote Originally Posted by Megaton13
    I hate the noise that regular breaks cause on SPIN wheels.
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megaton13
    Did my first post give the idea that my wheels are broken?
    If that was the case I'm sorry, maybe I should have used different wording to describe my problem.
    Let me explain, my wheels are perfectly fine, I love them! My only problem, well, it's not a problem actually. The only thing that I'm not happy about is the fact that only one wheel (front) is enjoying the company of a disc break device.
    That's why I'd love to find a solution so the rear wheel can partake of the joy of modern disc breaking technology.
    I hate the noise that regular breaks cause on SPIN wheels.

    Shiggy, I have no idea how many SPIN wheel' owners are out there, much less how many of them would like to upgrade theirs to disc breaks. One thing I know, as long as I own this pair I won't stop until I upgrade mine. If the cost of doing them is reasonable I'll gladly spend few hundred bucks of my money on getting it done.

    Unfortunately I'm new at this forum.
    Hopefully little by little SPIN owners will find this thread sooner or later.
    If any of you know how to find out how many SPIN owners are out there and if they would be interested in upgrading, please show me the way, I'll do it. At least I'll try.
    In the meantime get some disc compatible wheels that work. You have a long wait to modify your Spins. Those are the breaks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megaton13
    Did my first post give the idea that my wheels are broken?
    I think they're poking at you because you mis-spelled brakes. Brakes stop things, breaks mean stuff is broken.
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    All those things you said about Spins are true. But for some weird reason, I miss mine. I got a set in '96 and kept them until '06 when I went to disc brakes. I still regret selling them. I know they were heavy, flexed like crazy, and rode like crap. But they were also nearly indestructible and since I rode GT's back then, fit the theme of the bike.

    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker72
    No there is no way to convert these wheels. They are no longer sold for a reason, they were heavy, harsh riding, and expensive. I recommend saving up for a good set of hand built disc wheels which will be far superior in ride quality and weight. Bicycle Wheel Warehouse has quality hand built wheels starting around $150.

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    megton13 Im on the same mission! i just purchased a set. I had a trek Y22 10 years ago that was stolen, and Im trying to duplicated it! I have two other bikes, a hardtail cannondale and a FS jekyll, I just can never forget about that trek Y with the SPIN's. I too will not stop, no pun intended, until I can get disc's on those wheels! There no rhyme or reason for them, It's just an emotional thing! Here's some pix of my old Y with SPIN and disc that I had modified! So it can be done with enough time and money!
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    In my search I've found this, some of you guys might find it interesting . They look familiar don't they? even there hub design looks the same!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fastzcars
    In my search I've found this, some of you guys might find it interesting . They look familiar don't they? even there hub design looks the same!
    An Asian knockoff? You are a bit light on the details.

    Still a design that is more about style than function. But that is neither here nor there.
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    Nope! Right here in the good old u.s.a.! In fact they have 3 plants! They make wheels for honda's yard and garden division! The pix are the are products of there wheel chair/mobility divison. . Im trying to talk to them about getting a set without the hand rings and tiremonuted, since they mount a solid tire to the wheels they sell. That is all the info I can give for now. I don't want to " count my chickens etc..."when. I get more info ill post it here first

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastzcars
    Nope! Right here in the good old u.s.a.! In fact they have 3 plants! They make wheels for honda's yard and garden division! The pix are the are products of there wheel chair/mobility divison. . Im trying to talk to them about getting a set without the hand rings and tiremonuted, since they mount a solid tire to the wheels they sell. That is all the info I can give for now. I don't want to " count my chickens etc..."when. I get more info ill post it here first
    And what will you do for hubs? Still no disc mounts, no free hub, no end caps for bicycles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    And what will you do for hubs? Still no disc mounts, no free hub, no end caps for bicycles.

    SHiggy, sometimes they just can't figure it out.

    I resolve to constantly assert my honest opinion on anything and everything - whether it is requested or not.
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    and it's just plain ugly
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Very funny Highdell and mtnbikej, I'm sure you guy's feel so much better! All i'm trying to do is provide information to others on this forum. In my line of work we don't have "problems". We are presented with challenges and we find solutions! but I see now that I'm in good company here!!!!! Have a great day gentlemen.

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    I had a rear Spin back in the day. After the rear hub stopped working and no replacement parts were available, I got mad one day and took it to the range. I put it on a nail and gave it one last spin.......then I tore it apart with my shotgun.

    Money well spent

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    I have just destroyed the rim on my rear SPIN after 12 years of riding, therefore I now have for sale 1 good condition working SPIN rear hub complete with 9 speed XTR cassette and a very good condition front SPIN wheel complete - all located in Australia so be mindful of the freight charges.

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    regards spin wheels

    I have a set for my bmx and now a rear only due to alcohol and riding.boo,,

    xcore i heard brought the rights to the spin lost core technology process after spins parent company went chapter 13 <broke> that would be gt bicycles

    depending on the rear wheel you have there are two types of free hubs an American classic three pawl design or a shimano 8 xt level free-hub type.

    try eBay eBay for either.

    american classic uses two five mm allen wrenches in axle ends and woo hoo the show pulls apart easy as,careful with the pawls they may dislodge,

    shimano one i cannot remember too much about as here in aust we only got one or two of this type.

    you can tell externally what type of free hub mech you have as the american classic ones have a massive nut and shimano has pins .

    as for spin users guys there cannot be many left most people thought they were indestructible and treated them as such.. leading to a rude shock!


    as for discs they started that ,but i think it put too much strain on the hub/wheel interface leading to problems..and thats about when gt went kaput

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    Just an update, i finally received the front adapters that I had made. the rear ones are on the way!
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    just received the rear ones in the mail.
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    How are the adapters holding up? More importantly, how much did the whole endeavor cost & where can I get them?

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    you get a "p" for persistance.
    if you're happy with that, more power to you.
    how many 100s of grams did that add to the wheel weight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather View Post
    you get a "p" for persistance.
    if you're happy with that, more power to you.
    how many 100s of grams did that add to the wheel weight?


    Probably another pound or so to those already heavy wheels..............

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    I'd love to hear from you

    fastzcars,
    My interest remains intact, I saw your pictures and I just got more anxious than before.
    Any reports on the rear hub?

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    Thanks for the interest guys!!! The adapters are holding up great! I have countless hours of R&D and back and forth with the machinist to have these adapters made. I have about 6 rides in now on them. I took 3 street rides, taking it slowly at first then increasing the intensity on each consecutive ride. Now I'm doing my normal fire road rides listening for any abnormalities/ noises that might indicate any problem with the hubs themselves! I wanted the prototypes bullet proof before I start whittling the weight down. I haven't taken them on any single track yet. I'm out of shape and too old for epic rides any more! I really want to test them out thoroughly before considering offering them to anyone. I don't want anyone getting hurt on account of me! I'm sure you guys will understand. As far as the weight issue is concerned remember these are only prototypes, but I will weight them and get back to you guys on that! Happy biking guys!.

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    As promised here are the weights of the adapters!
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    Would anybody know where I could get my hands on a pair of Spins? Or something perhaps equivalent...(but not exactly an aerospoke)...

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    i had a pair of those in 96 lol. everyone at Big Bear was jockin me like the ice cream man at fat camp.

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    I currently have a rear spin rim with perfect spinning hub, true spin and very smooth.

    just thought I put it out there, bought it used but never used it, could be looking to get rid of it, its so damn sexy though.

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    I got my Spinwheels last month, the rear wheel has a click sounds when the the bike slide, it can't be heard when I pedal or without human on the bike....it request weight and force to hear the click sounds, I took it to the bike shop found nothing, somebody said it maybe the hub and somebody said they may crash in the middle which we can't see.

    Is there any body has the same problem with spinwheels ? I like the wheel, I must get it fixed.

    Thanks

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    Most likely a bearing issue in the hub. My Spin wheels are off the bike just for that reason pending a suitable replacement hub to appear out of thin air... lol

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    I am Chinese in Taiwan, the most bicycle parts were made here, it will be not too hard even switch the whole hub of the spin wheels, also disc brake hub, but I had been told the click sounds came from the rear wheel maybe the crash in side the wheel or the connect pot between hub and wheel....

    I like those wheel, I would like to know how many wheel crash inside ? my wheels looks perfect outside, no ding or scratch, the hub looks like new too.....

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    If you look a few posts up there is information about where the original hubs were manufactured in California. You might want to start there.

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    Here are some pictures that might help you determine what might be wrong with your rear hub. The hub has 4 sealed bearings, 2 in the freewheel and 2 on the hub body itself. The end caps of the axle come apart pretty easily with two 5mm allen wrenches. The pawls could be sticking/ damaged teeth in the hub body maybe worn down. As a side note the manufacturer now uses epoxy to mount the aluminum hub to the carbon wheel. I've heard that it was an issue of the spleens seasawing back and forth between the braking and pedaling forces. Ive used a "locktite" brand of green retaining compound for automotive axle use on the interface spleens of the hub to prevent this from happening. So far it's been holding up!
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    fastzcars

    thank you for your post, my English is not that well, it should take some time to understand all of it, but after seeing the picture, its maybe not to hard to modify the hub to others, I can even put discbrake hub on them...

    if my problem came from the connect spot between carbon wheel & hub, it maybe fix able too, thank a lot, I will update what happen to my wheel and even I finish the discbrake modify.

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    hi, my wheel was fixed, the bolt of hub and carbon spoke is not tight enough, after the bike shop tight it, the click sound gone, now I am wonder if I want to add the disc brake bolt on the wheels, I think the bolt is not to hard to make, but after the click sound, I don't know if the wheel can handle the stop force from the disk brake, those wheel is old, the parts is hard to find, I wish I can keep them forever....

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    Hi fastzcars, I tried sending you a PM, but my profile is too new to do that.

    I recently purchased a set of spin wheels. I'm having issues trying to mount the wheels, the bolt/small tubesthat sticks out from the hub (sorry for using the wrong term) to the fork are a bit damaged (the lip seems to be smashed in a little). Do you know where I may be able to find replacement hubs or how I may go about fixing them?

    Thanks a log, I really love these wheels.

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    Y 22 with spins

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    megton13 Im on the same mission! i just purchased a set. I had a trek Y22 10 years ago that was stolen, and Im trying to duplicated it! I have two other bikes, a hardtail cannondale and a FS jekyll, I just can never forget about that trek Y with the SPIN's. I too will not stop, no pun intended, until I can get disc's on those wheels! There no rhyme or reason for them, It's just an emotional thing! Here's some pix of my old Y with SPIN and disc that I had modified! So it can be done with enough time and money!
    I too have the 1995 Y 22 with spin wheels.I rode the **** out of the bike at Jubalee park.I never had any problems out of the wheels.I put a couple thousand miles on them on trails and road ridin also.I upgraded my brakes to magura hydrolics and love them.Gonna get it out for thr first time in years.

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    Hello Fastzcars
    i very need adapters for spin hubs,can you sell to me and ship to Russia(Moscow) i,ll pay via paypal
    my hubs the same as yours ,or maybe you specify dimensions (width,internal depth,carving ) I try to make them at the factory
    many thanks,happy new year

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    Hope You may be able to buy NEW SPIN type wheels

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    Custon Engineered Wheels, Inc. X-Core Wheels

    I came across a company named Custom Engineered Wheels, Inc. who makes wheels in multiple colors that are VERY similar to SPIN wheels. Currently they are produced for high end sport Wheel Chairs. BUT, their website indicates that they are working to develop BICYCLE wheels and more info is "coming soon".

    Custom Engineered Wheels, Inc. Bicycle Wheels

    I sent them a request for information and will share what I find out.

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