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    Quote Originally Posted by seven-22 View Post
    Roval Joe,

    Great thread and thanks in advance.

    I'm rebuilding a set of hubs froma Roval control SL 26" wheelset and need the hub flange diameter and distance from center. The wheels are 2009-ish, white hubs with carbon shell on the front, 24/28 hole.

    All the best.
    seven-22- sorry for the lag, trying to get the info from one of the engineers for you on this, please be patient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leeboh View Post
    I'm looking at the new enduro 29er. The wheels are listed as roval 29 alloy disc, 28 mm wide, 32 hole. Front hub, Spec Hi Lo disc 15mm through. Rear hub, Spec Hi Lo disc, 12mm through, 32 hole. Internal width? I'm assuming the hi lo is a basic specialized hub? Looking for some more info. I'm on the beefy side and wonder how they will hold up to New England rocks and roots.
    leeboh- I think you are refering to the Comp model, correct? This is not a Roval wheelset, rather, it's an OE wheelset that uses a Roval rim, so there are a number of differences including hubs, spokes, and the wheels are machine built (Roval wheelsets are all hand built, whether they come on the bike or are purchased aftermarket). Ok, so that being said, the rim width is 24mm inner width. What wheels are you running now, or in the past that have worked well out there?

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    I have a 2012 Roval Control EL (s/n M11AA00431). I broke a spoke (rear drive side) and went to the shop to get a replacement. They told me the wheel uses a 277mm Revolution spoke. They found a couple at a shop in NC and had to have them shipped to CO. No one has these spokes - not Spesh, not shops and not DT Swiss in GJ. I pulled three others out of the drive side and they are all different lengths - 278, 280, and 282. Can you confirm what spokes are supposed to be on this wheel drive and non/drive.

    Also, why can't straight pull spokes have oval heads? - it would be much easier to true them

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsj3831 View Post
    I have a 2012 Roval Control EL (s/n M11AA00431). I broke a spoke (rear drive side) and went to the shop to get a replacement. They told me the wheel uses a 277mm Revolution spoke. They found a couple at a shop in NC and had to have them shipped to CO. No one has these spokes - not Spesh, not shops and not DT Swiss in GJ. I pulled three others out of the drive side and they are all different lengths - 278, 280, and 282. Can you confirm what spokes are supposed to be on this wheel drive and non/drive.

    Also, why can't straight pull spokes have oval heads? - it would be much easier to true them
    jsj3831- the spoke you are looking for is indeed 277mm, service part# S2026018. we have plenty of them in stock in Salt Lake City. Did you go to a Specialized dealer, and if so, did they actually contact our customer service, or attempt to look up the part number on our service site? As for why you are measuring different length spokes- Just like any bike part, there is a tolerance to the spec dimension, so not every part will measure exactly the spec length. That being said, 282mm is pretty far off. Over time, spokes can stretch, and I'm not sure if that is what is happening here or not. Why can't straight pull spokes have oval heads? They actually could, but it would also require every straight pull hub maker to machine appropriate spoke holes to accept these. It might help resist twisting, but you would still get the spoke "winding up" when you are adding tension since there is quite a bit of length between the nipple and the head. The best thing to do is use a twist resist tool and hold the spoke near the nipple. Granted, these tools are not easy to come by at this point, but we will be bringing one to market this summer. Sorry for the inconvenience you've had to deal with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roval Joe View Post
    leeboh- I think you are refering to the Comp model, correct? This is not a Roval wheelset, rather, it's an OE wheelset that uses a Roval rim, so there are a number of differences including hubs, spokes, and the wheels are machine built (Roval wheelsets are all hand built, whether they come on the bike or are purchased aftermarket). Ok, so that being said, the rim width is 24mm inner width. What wheels are you running now, or in the past that have worked well out there?
    On my 26er Kona, I have a hand built wheel set, hadley hubs to mavic 319's worked well for 8 yrs so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roval Joe View Post
    seven-22- sorry for the lag, trying to get the info from one of the engineers for you on this, please be patient.
    No worries. I'm just grateful to have a contact that will help me out. I suppose it's a testament to the quality of the wheels that this information isn't readily available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leeboh View Post
    On my 26er Kona, I have a hand built wheel set, hadley hubs to mavic 319's worked well for 8 yrs so far.
    Leeboh- got it. While the engagement won't be as tight as a Hadley, I think the wheels will do ok for you out there. 8 years is quite a long time for a set of mtn wheels if you are riding consistently! you'll notice the extra rim width for sure, especially if you run lower pressures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seven-22 View Post
    Roval Joe,

    Great thread and thanks in advance.

    I'm rebuilding a set of hubs froma Roval control SL 26" wheelset and need the hub flange diameter and distance from center. The wheels are 2009-ish, white hubs with carbon shell on the front, 24/28 hole.

    All the best.

    seven-22, I'm kind of in a tight spot here with this one. It's our policy to not give out info to promote building up our components with other systems (spokes/rims, etc), because we only test for the configurations we sell. I know this does sound a bit like a cop out, but you would be surprised by how much small changes can make to how a wheel performs. That being said, if you still want to continue, DT Swiss has a straight pull spoke calculator online that you could try, and it shouldn't be too hard actually measure the hubs you have with a metric caliper. Sorry I can't help you out more.

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    Interested in getting the new Roval Control 29 wheelset and have been lurking on this thread off and on. I hope "not" to need it, but just a kudo for your service input on behalf of all the posters on here Joe!
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    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    Interested in getting the new Roval Control 29 wheelset and have been lurking on this thread off and on. I hope "not" to need it, but just a kudo for your service input on behalf of all the posters on here Joe!
    JMac47- thanks for the kudos, you will be stoked on those wheels if you end up getting them!

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    They might be overkill with their stout 240# rider weight limit given my 140# stature....
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    They might be overkill with their stout 240# rider weight limit given my 140# stature....
    JMac47- all of our carbon wheels have a high rider weight limit, but they all ride differently due to rim construction, spoke spec/spoke count, etc, so don't be put off by the weight limit.

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    that's interesting...so what if I was looking for an XC 29er wheelset that can take the hardest blows? Fast through a rock garden type stuff....I don't normally ride silly low pressures (28 min in the front is the lowest I have ridden).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsj3831 View Post
    that's interesting...so what if I was looking for an XC 29er wheelset that can take the hardest blows? Fast through a rock garden type stuff....I don't normally ride silly low pressures (28 min in the front is the lowest I have ridden).
    jsj3831- if you were looking for the most robust set of XC wheels, I'd personally go wtih the Control Carbon 29. it is a bit heavier than the SL, but stands up to impacts better than the SL's, and is more affordable as well. You won't have any issues at the pressure you're running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roval Joe View Post
    JMac47- all of our carbon wheels have a high rider weight limit, but they all ride differently due to rim construction, spoke spec/spoke count, etc, so don't be put off by the weight limit.
    I should rephrase that "I'm sure there will be zero flex felt with my skinny ar$e ridding them".
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    I should rephrase that "I'm sure there will be zero flex felt with my skinny ar$e ridding them".
    Ha! got it!

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    New question here. Weight difference Roval Control SL 29 vs. Roval Control Carbon 29

    Hey Joe!

    First of all, I really appreciate the direct approach you are taking towards customers here.

    I have two questions regarding the weight/differences between the Roval Control SL 29 vs. the Roval Control Carbon 29 wheels.

    As I understand the weight difference between these wheelsets is around 100 g.

    1. Where does this weight differcence come from (hubs/rims/spokes)?

    2. What exactly is the technical difference between the hubs used (240s vs. 350 internals)?

    Many thanks in advance!

    Cheers,
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    ^^^ Great question.

    Also, Joe...

    Do the Carbon Control 29 wheels come with the 18T or 36T star ratchet? How about the Carbon Control SL 29s?

    Thanks!

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    Hello Joe, Is there any plan for Roval to make a Single Speed Specific wheelset available for purchase? I noticed even the Carve SL come with a casette hub and it's just spaced out. Seems strange to me for a production bike. This question may have been asked before but I didn't want to sift through 5 pages of posts, heh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bart_simpson View Post
    Hey Joe!

    First of all, I really appreciate the direct approach you are taking towards customers here.

    I have two questions regarding the weight/differences between the Roval Control SL 29 vs. the Roval Control Carbon 29 wheels.

    As I understand the weight difference between these wheelsets is around 100 g.

    1. Where does this weight differcence come from (hubs/rims/spokes)?

    2. What exactly is the technical difference between the hubs used (240s vs. 350 internals)?

    Many thanks in advance!

    Cheers,
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    bart_simpson- cool, glad you guys are finding this helpful! ok, to answer your questions:
    The front hub on Control SL is lighter (and noticeably smaller), the rear hub looks the same between the two wheels, but the SL uses a DT 240 based design, and the Control Carbon uses the DT 350 based design. Both are similar, but the 240 has a little nicer quality bearing and more machining, making it lighter. Spokes are exactly the same between the two wheels (DT Swiss Revolutions w/Pro Lock hex head alloy nipples), so no difference there. The rims are different also, Controls being a little heavier than the SL's, but also more impact resistant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidcarson48 View Post
    ^^^ Great question.

    Also, Joe...

    Do the Carbon Control 29 wheels come with the 18T or 36T star ratchet? How about the Carbon Control SL 29s?

    Thanks!
    davidcarson48- all models of Roval mountain wheels for 2012, 2013, and the coming 2014 year will use 36t star ratchets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinTRON View Post
    Hello Joe, Is there any plan for Roval to make a Single Speed Specific wheelset available for purchase? I noticed even the Carve SL come with a casette hub and it's just spaced out. Seems strange to me for a production bike. This question may have been asked before but I didn't want to sift through 5 pages of posts, heh.
    austinTRON- I'm not sure on the reason for the Carve spec, but as for Roval wheels coming in a single speed specific configuration, I'm sorry, but this isn't in the plan right now. We can definitely look at it in the future, but it won't be happening soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roval Joe View Post
    bart_simpson- cool, glad you guys are finding this helpful!
    Yes, this is indeed REALLY cool, as it allows to take an educated purchase decision

    Quote Originally Posted by Roval Joe View Post
    the rear hub looks the same between the two wheels, but the SL uses a DT 240 based design, and the Control Carbon uses the DT 350 based design. Both are similar, but the 240 has a little nicer quality bearing and more machining, making it lighter.
    OK, understood. What does "nicer quality bearing" mean for real use?
    How is reliability affected in comparison to the 240 hub?

    Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by bart_simpson View Post
    Yes, this is indeed REALLY cool, as it allows to take an educated purchase decision



    OK, understood. What does "nicer quality bearing" mean for real use?
    How is reliability affected in comparison to the 240 hub?

    Thanks again
    It's just a higher grade bearing. In real terms like you are asking, there are hundreds of thousands of these hubs in the field, and we have not seen longevity issues with the 350 bearing compared to the 240 bearing. they both seem to do well, and haven't had complaints. Basically the 240 hub gets you a decent weight savings.

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    I just want to say how good it is to see Roval Joe here on the forums putting in some good hours helping customers in real time. Also makes me happy that I am a Specialized rider too. Best customer service there is, even outside of the bike industry, few companies can hold a candle to them. *High Five* joe. Also, I just reeled in a set of DT 240s. I'm going to need a set of hoops to lace up. I have been assuming that I would end up with stan's pretty much from the get-go but I would really like to have some Rovals just to say I have Roval. I'm a 170lb rider and this wheelset will be for XC Racing. I will be running it Single Speed and also geared in the future. Any recommendations? Probly Control 29s? I'm really interested in the Control Carbon 29. Can these be purchased individualy? We've gotten some through the shop before but it was for warranty purposes.
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    Freehub body question - mine is getting a bit knicked up from the cassette. Assuming the bearings are smooth, is there a point at which this will affect functionality? Are replacements all similar in material (AL)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinTRON View Post
    I just want to say how good it is to see Roval Joe here on the forums putting in some good hours helping customers in real time. Also makes me happy that I am a Specialized rider too. Best customer service there is, even outside of the bike industry, few companies can hold a candle to them. *High Five* joe. Also, I just reeled in a set of DT 240s. I'm going to need a set of hoops to lace up. I have been assuming that I would end up with stan's pretty much from the get-go but I would really like to have some Rovals just to say I have Roval. I'm a 170lb rider and this wheelset will be for XC Racing. I will be running it Single Speed and also geared in the future. Any recommendations? Probly Control 29s? I'm really interested in the Control Carbon 29. Can these be purchased individualy? We've gotten some through the shop before but it was for warranty purposes.
    austinTRON- stoked to help you guys. Unfortunately in your case though, I'm not able to be of much help. Since we design our wheels as a system, we don't offer any of the pieces aftermarket. The only way to get rims is if there is a warranty or crash replacement of an existing wheelset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roval Joe View Post
    Since we design our wheels as a system, we don't offer any of the pieces aftermarket. The only way to get rims is if there is a warranty or crash replacement of an existing wheelset.
    oh man what a bummer... I really wanted to represent Roval....

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    Roval questions?

    Joe,

    I have a set of Control SL 29 wheels - carbon rims with the "red wedge" look from 2011 or 2012. I was thinking about replacing the red aero spokes with black DT competition spokes. Can you give me the spoke lengths I would need to do this?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AOK View Post
    Joe,

    I have a set of Control SL 29 wheels - carbon rims with the "red wedge" look from 2011 or 2012. I was thinking about replacing the red aero spokes with black DT competition spokes. Can you give me the spoke lengths I would need to do this?

    Thanks!
    Here's a DT Swiss spoke calculator. I believe the Control SL 29 used hubs with 350 internals, pretty sure the shell is the same? Welcome <- dno why it says "welcome" but I can't seem to change it, lol.

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    Roval questions?

    Quote Originally Posted by austinTRON View Post
    Here's a DT Swiss spoke calculator. I believe the Control SL 29 used hubs with 350 internals, pretty sure the shell is the same? Welcome <- dno why it says "welcome" but I can't seem to change it, lol.
    The Roval hub internals are the same as DT Swiss, but my understanding was that the hub shell is different.

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    Need Roval Joe...

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    I have a friend who is getting the carbon wheel set so he is getting rid of
    His current rivals. They came off a epic comp 29. Os28 front and 142 rear.
    Can I convert the front to 20mm. Don't want to buy another fork.
    Thanks

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    Roval Joe,

    Are the hubs from Roval Control SL 29er with ceramic bearings?

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    Paging Roval Joe,

    Could the issue that has just begun to crop up on my 15mm TA QR be related to the Roval Control SL hub?

    I have a Rock Shox Reba RL with 15mm TA. Starting yesterday it seems like I've loss most of the clamping force in the QR. How could that happen? Previously when I put the wheel in the dropouts, I would turn and tighten the TA until it was just snug, then I would clamp the QR down closed and I could feel it provide some good clamping force. It felt like about the same clamping force as a traditional 9mm QR. But when putting the wheel on yesterday I used the same procedure but the QR didn't seem to provide much clamp force at all. Even if I turn and tighten the TA hard, I still don't get much more force out of clamping the QR. I can still spin the QR on the axle when it is in the closed position, I couldn't do that before.
    First thing I thought of was the TA conversion hub caps, but they all seem fine. The hub is Specialized Roval Control SL, TA is Rock Shox that came with the bike/fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AOK View Post
    Joe,

    I have a set of Control SL 29 wheels - carbon rims with the "red wedge" look from 2011 or 2012. I was thinking about replacing the red aero spokes with black DT competition spokes. Can you give me the spoke lengths I would need to do this?

    Thanks!
    AOK- My apologies for the serious lag in response! I was traveling with really bad connection to the internet. Spoke lengths are as follows:
    front Drive side: 289mm, Non Drive side: 302mm
    Rear Drive side: 299mm, Non Drive side, 302mm
    if you need our service part numbers for these, let me know, and I'll post them. Thanks for your patience!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jujuyak View Post
    I have a friend who is getting the carbon wheel set so he is getting rid of
    His current rivals. They came off a epic comp 29. Os28 front and 142 rear.
    Can I convert the front to 20mm. Don't want to buy another fork.
    Thanks
    jujuyak- the wheels that came on the Epic Comp are not Roval wheelsets. They are Roval rims that are laced into some OE hubs, much like you see other brand's bikes using DT or Mavic rims laced into OE hubs. Specialized bikes using Roval hand built wheelsets come on Expert level or above. So, assuming I understand you correctly, the wheels your friend has will not convert to 20mm axle in the front. The easy way to tell is to see if the hub graphic says Roval on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewarnerusa View Post
    Paging Roval Joe,

    Could the issue that has just begun to crop up on my 15mm TA QR be related to the Roval Control SL hub?

    I have a Rock Shox Reba RL with 15mm TA. Starting yesterday it seems like I've loss most of the clamping force in the QR. How could that happen? Previously when I put the wheel in the dropouts, I would turn and tighten the TA until it was just snug, then I would clamp the QR down closed and I could feel it provide some good clamping force. It felt like about the same clamping force as a traditional 9mm QR. But when putting the wheel on yesterday I used the same procedure but the QR didn't seem to provide much clamp force at all. Even if I turn and tighten the TA hard, I still don't get much more force out of clamping the QR. I can still spin the QR on the axle when it is in the closed position, I couldn't do that before.
    First thing I thought of was the TA conversion hub caps, but they all seem fine. The hub is Specialized Roval Control SL, TA is Rock Shox that came with the bike/fork.
    ewarnerusa- After reading thru your post, I don't think the problem is with the wheel. It may be that you need to adjust your TA, depending on exactly which model it is. The quick way to tell is to put another wheel in your fork and see if you have the same problem. Some of the Rockshox TA's use a small allen bolt to adjust "clamping force", and I'm guessing that you just need to tighten that down a bit. I could be totally wrong, but it's hard to tell without being able to check it out myself. Try it out and let me know what you find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roval Joe View Post
    ewarnerusa- After reading thru your post, I don't think the problem is with the wheel. It may be that you need to adjust your TA, depending on exactly which model it is. The quick way to tell is to put another wheel in your fork and see if you have the same problem. Some of the Rockshox TA's use a small allen bolt to adjust "clamping force", and I'm guessing that you just need to tighten that down a bit. I could be totally wrong, but it's hard to tell without being able to check it out myself. Try it out and let me know what you find.
    Thanks Joe, that solved it.

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    Hi Joe, first off I want to say that these wheels look like a great deal. Between the DT Swiss internals, what looks like a great design for a tubeless carbon clincher, and the Revolution spokes and Pro Lock nipples tying it together, I think these will sell really well for the price.

    It is almost enough to make me buy them DESPITE the fact that I am in the camp that likes to build and repair my own wheels. Building them myself I can select the width of my rims, the guage of my spokes (I consider 1.5 easy to break when sticks get into the spokes), centerlock or 6-bolt (6-bolt is a weight penalty if you prefer Shimano rotors, which are awesome IMO), etc.

    I know you have already said Specialized will only sell these are a wheelset. So this leads me to the unfortunate question: I am curious as to whether or not the hookless carbon rim idea is patented or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpower13 View Post
    Roval Joe,

    Are the hubs from Roval Control SL 29er with ceramic bearings?
    Mpower13- we do not use ceramic bearings on Roval mtn wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutantclover View Post
    Hi Joe, first off I want to say that these wheels look like a great deal. Between the DT Swiss internals, what looks like a great design for a tubeless carbon clincher, and the Revolution spokes and Pro Lock nipples tying it together, I think these will sell really well for the price.

    It is almost enough to make me buy them DESPITE the fact that I am in the camp that likes to build and repair my own wheels. Building them myself I can select the width of my rims, the guage of my spokes (I consider 1.5 easy to break when sticks get into the spokes), centerlock or 6-bolt (6-bolt is a weight penalty if you prefer Shimano rotors, which are awesome IMO), etc.

    I know you have already said Specialized will only sell these are a wheelset. So this leads me to the unfortunate question: I am curious as to whether or not the hookless carbon rim idea is patented or not?
    Mutantclover- first off, I'm wondering where that name came from, nice! ok, so to answer your question, no, the zero bead hook design is not something that is patentable. Moto, car, and even some bike rims in the past have all used this design, so it's not something that can be patented. Regarding building your wheels versus getting the Control carbon's, I would recommend you go to your local dealer and see if they would let you test drive a set. Not a lot of dealers are set up like this, but some will actually let you take a set out if you are seriously considering purchasing. I think one ride will tell you a lot about what the wheels are (way more than the sum of their parts), and that will help you make a decision on what is right for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roval Joe View Post
    Mutantclover- first off, I'm wondering where that name came from, nice!
    Thanks for the response Joe. As for the name, this may help: Four-leaf clover: No luck, but an aberration due to a faulty gene.

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    RJ, your usual prompt responses and feedback leave nothing to apologize for!
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    Roval Joe,

    Could you tell me if the wheelset that comes on the 2012 stumpjumper fsr expert carbon evo (elite titanium mega fluxcapacitor... sorry couldn't stop) 26" can be converted to 20mm in the front?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dberndt View Post
    Roval Joe,

    Could you tell me if the wheelset that comes on the 2012 stumpjumper fsr expert carbon evo (elite titanium mega fluxcapacitor... sorry couldn't stop) 26" can be converted to 20mm in the front?
    dberndt- those are the Traverse wheels on that model, and yes, they can be converted to 20mm thru axle, you just need to have your dealer order up the end caps. Give them this info and they won't have to bother looking it up: Part# S125900003

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    Rival Joe

    Thank you for the info. It is appreciated.

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    Thanks RJ, It's appreciated that you're here in this forum answering these questions.

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    Hi Joe!
    A question:
    I have a wheelset Roval Control SL (26 "). Not sure of the year, possibly 2011. I have a pair of 9mm "end caps" for Specialized forks (28mm), but I need it for a Fox fork (24mm).

    I need to know the reference number of the end caps to order.

    The front hub has the reference: 110603

    I attach you some photos to help identify the wheels:

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    thank!

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    2012 Roval SL142+ hub geometry

    I want to build a wheelset based on these hubs, but how do I calculate the spoke length? I do not find any spoke calculator that has these hubs in their database. They are not identical to any DT Swiss straight pull hub as far as I can see. It is difficult to measure the flange distance and in particular the pitch circle diameter.

    So where do I find the necessary geometrical dimensions needed for input to the DT Swiss spoke calculator? (flange distance, pitch circle diameter, spoke recession)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pardao15 View Post
    Hi Joe!
    A question:
    I have a wheelset Roval Control SL (26 "). Not sure of the year, possibly 2011. I have a pair of 9mm "end caps" for Specialized forks (28mm), but I need it for a Fox fork (24mm).

    I need to know the reference number of the end caps to order.

    The front hub has the reference: 110603

    I attach you some photos to help identify the wheels:

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    Pardao15- , this should be the part# you're looking for: S125900009.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pardao15 View Post
    Hi Joe!
    A question:
    I have a wheelset Roval Control SL (26 "). Not sure of the year, possibly 2011. I have a pair of 9mm "end caps" for Specialized forks (28mm), but I need it for a Fox fork (24mm).

    I need to know the reference number of the end caps to order.

    The front hub has the reference: 110603

    I attach you some photos to help identify the wheels:

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    Pardao15- this should be the part# you're looking for: S125900009

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    Thank you very much Joe!

    I could you say me the model year of my wheels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikGBL View Post
    I want to build a wheelset based on these hubs, but how do I calculate the spoke length? I do not find any spoke calculator that has these hubs in their database. They are not identical to any DT Swiss straight pull hub as far as I can see. It is difficult to measure the flange distance and in particular the pitch circle diameter.

    So where do I find the necessary geometrical dimensions needed for input to the DT Swiss spoke calculator? (flange distance, pitch circle diameter, spoke recession)
    ErikGBL- because we sell Roval wheels as a system, we don't support parting out pieces of the wheel. In other words, I don't have drawings/measurements I can give you. That being said, if you still want to build up your hub, try DT Swiss' online calculator for straight pull hubs. Ours is not listed in the database, but you might be able to figure it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pardao15 View Post
    Thank you very much Joe!

    I could you say me the model year of my wheels?
    Pardao15- I believe your wheels are 2011 model year.

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    Hi Joe,

    I have another question, regarding the wheels on the the 2012 Stumpjumper Comp 29 hardtail of my girlfriend.

    The rims on that bike are labeled as "Roval 29, 26mm w/ eyelets, 32h".

    Are those rims tubeless-ready?

    Thank you very much in advance for your help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bart_simpson View Post
    Hi Joe,

    I have another question, regarding the wheels on the the 2012 Stumpjumper Comp 29 hardtail of my girlfriend.

    The rims on that bike are labeled as "Roval 29, 26mm w/ eyelets, 32h".

    Are those rims tubeless-ready?

    Thank you very much in advance for your help!
    bart-simpson- the rims that come on your girlfriend's bike are indeed tubeless. All bikes we sell with Roval rims come with the tubeless valves in the small parts box, so if she got it new, the shop should have given them to her. If not, any specialized dealer can order the valves.

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    I have a new frame coming that uses a 142x12 rear. I have a set of Carbon Control 29's that came as 135mm. The frame includes the rear 12mm skewer. Do I just need the end caps or the kit that includes an axle too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_strom View Post
    I have a new frame coming that uses a 142x12 rear. I have a set of Carbon Control 29's that came as 135mm. The frame includes the rear 12mm skewer. Do I just need the end caps or the kit that includes an axle too?
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    Hey G- you just need the end caps, and you'll be good to go! the skewer coming wtih your frame will be fine and the axle already in your rear hub is compatible with that skewer. Enjoy!

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    Roval questions?

    Perfect, thanks.
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    Traversee conversion to 10x135

    Hi Joe,

    I have a set o 26" Traversee E5 wheels (Specialized Roval Traversee Wheelset Review - BikeRadar)that I want to swap the rear axle for 10X135. I believe that the rear is the same as the DT Swiss 240. What do I need, is it end caps, axle and skewer?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsync View Post
    Hi Joe,

    I have a set o 26" Traversee E5 wheels (Specialized Roval Traversee Wheelset Review - BikeRadar)that I want to swap the rear axle for 10X135. I believe that the rear is the same as the DT Swiss 240. What do I need, is it end caps, axle and skewer?

    Thanks

    Kev
    Hi Kev, you need end caps and skewer. the axle in those wheels should be compatible with 10mm skewer. We don't carry those end caps, but you can get them from DT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roval Joe View Post
    Hi Kev, you need end caps and skewer. the axle in those wheels should be compatible with 10mm skewer. We don't carry those end caps, but you can get them from DT.
    Hi Joe,

    Thanks for the confirmation, i don't suppose you are able to tell me the dt part numbers?

    Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsync View Post
    Hi Joe,

    Thanks for the confirmation, i don't suppose you are able to tell me the dt part numbers?

    Thanks again.
    there is a nice list of DT part numbers here:http://www.dtswiss.com/Resources/Ima..._Kit_Style.pdf

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    Hi Joe,
    Do you know what the part number is for the DT-Swiss XX1 conversion of the 142+ hubs? I am assuming that the drive side end cap is different from the regular 142 end cap which comes with the DT-Swiss XX1 hub shell.
    Thanks!

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    Roval Contour SL

    Hi Joe,
    Have you had issues with these rims fracturing(Contour SL)? I am on my second replacement in three months; my latest lasted just two rides...
    My first one I have to take some responsibility as I did have a pretty hard impact but my last, fracturing on the second ride with no hard impacts is very disappointing! I run tubeless at 35 psi.
    Frank
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    Hi Joe,
    I have the Control Trail SL wheels, I think they 2011 model year, with red "ROVAL" paint. It is a 28 hole rear wheel and I need to replace spokes. Can you provide the drive side and non drive side spoke length please?

    Thanks,

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    Hi Joe,
    Can you tell me what bearings go in the Roval Control SL 29 Carbon front and rear wheels, and what bearings go in the Roval Control Trail SL 29 Carbon front and rear wheels? Is the Control SL Bearing Replacement Tool Set able to replace the bearings on all 4 of these wheels? Can my dealer order me the Control SL Bearing Replacement Tool Set? What is the Specilized part # for it?
    Thanks

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    Had an issue, turned out I'd gotten the wrong drive side cap, got the right one and bingo, all's good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by c-wal View Post
    Hi Joe,
    Do you know what the part number is for the DT-Swiss XX1 conversion of the 142+ hubs? I am assuming that the drive side end cap is different from the regular 142 end cap which comes with the DT-Swiss XX1 hub shell.
    Thanks!
    C-wal, you can't buy the 142+ kit from DT, only from Specialized. Part number is S132100005

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    Quote Originally Posted by rangerfrank View Post
    Hi Joe,
    Have you had issues with these rims fracturing(Contour SL)? I am on my second replacement in three months; my latest lasted just two rides...
    My first one I have to take some responsibility as I did have a pretty hard impact but my last, fracturing on the second ride with no hard impacts is very disappointing! I run tubeless at 35 psi.
    Frank
    Frank, sorry to hear you're having trouble with your wheels. We have had some of these rims cracking, a lot of it depends on rider weight, riding style, and terrain being ridden. you are running plenty of pressure in there, so I can't tell you what is going on without more info. Your best bet is to visit your dealer and try to work out a solution. If you are continuing to have issues, I would recommend trying to work something out with the dealer on a trade in for Control Carbon wheels, which have a much more impact resistant rim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpd131 View Post
    Hi Joe,
    I have the Control Trail SL wheels, I think they 2011 model year, with red "ROVAL" paint. It is a 28 hole rear wheel and I need to replace spokes. Can you provide the drive side and non drive side spoke length please?

    Thanks,
    bdp131, here you go:

    REAR SPOKE-DRIVE SIDE DT Swiss AEROLITE 14G, Straight pull 272mm
    REAR SPOKE-DRIVE SIDE DT Swiss REVOLUTION 14/17 Gauge, Straight pull 272MM
    REAR SPOKE-NON DRIVE SIDE DT Swiss AEROLITE 14G, Straight pull 274mm
    REAR SPOKE-NON DRIVE SIDE DT Swiss REVOLUTION 14/17 Gauge, Straight pull 274MM

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    Quote Originally Posted by MountainHead View Post
    Hi Joe,
    Can you tell me what bearings go in the Roval Control SL 29 Carbon front and rear wheels, and what bearings go in the Roval Control Trail SL 29 Carbon front and rear wheels? Is the Control SL Bearing Replacement Tool Set able to replace the bearings on all 4 of these wheels? Can my dealer order me the Control SL Bearing Replacement Tool Set? What is the Specilized part # for it?
    Thanks
    Mountainhead- PN for the bearing tool you need is: S125300013. it does not include bearings. bearing info; Control Trail SL 29 FRONT: S2025009/S2025005,one each. Control SL 29 FRONT: S2025007, qty 2. rear bearings for both wheels: These you can get from DT (240 hub bearings), or find an alternative source. Bearings are:6902 (15/28x7mm)qty 2 per hub, and 6802 (15/24x5mm) qty 2 per hub

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roval Joe View Post
    bdp131, here you go:

    REAR SPOKE-DRIVE SIDE DT Swiss AEROLITE 14G, Straight pull 272mm
    REAR SPOKE-DRIVE SIDE DT Swiss REVOLUTION 14/17 Gauge, Straight pull 272MM
    REAR SPOKE-NON DRIVE SIDE DT Swiss AEROLITE 14G, Straight pull 274mm
    REAR SPOKE-NON DRIVE SIDE DT Swiss REVOLUTION 14/17 Gauge, Straight pull 274MM
    Thanks

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    I popped the head off one of the rear, drive side spokes on my 2012 Enduro Expert Carbon w/ Roval Traverse wheels this weekend. Could I get the spoke lengths for those wheels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsync View Post
    Hi Joe,

    I have a set o 26" Traversee E5 wheels (Specialized Roval Traversee Wheelset Review - BikeRadar)that I want to swap the rear axle for 10X135. I believe that the rear is the same as the DT Swiss 240. What do I need, is it end caps, axle and skewer?

    Thanks

    Kev
    Quote Originally Posted by Roval Joe View Post
    Hi Kev, you need end caps and skewer. the axle in those wheels should be compatible with 10mm skewer. We don't carry those end caps, but you can get them from DT.
    Hi Joe,

    One more question about the wheels, can I convert the front to a 9mm through axle? If it makes any difference the fork is a standard QR Rockshox Reba.

    Thanks,

    Kev

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roval Joe View Post
    bdp131, here you go:

    REAR SPOKE-DRIVE SIDE DT Swiss AEROLITE 14G, Straight pull 272mm
    REAR SPOKE-DRIVE SIDE DT Swiss REVOLUTION 14/17 Gauge, Straight pull 272MM
    REAR SPOKE-NON DRIVE SIDE DT Swiss AEROLITE 14G, Straight pull 274mm
    REAR SPOKE-NON DRIVE SIDE DT Swiss REVOLUTION 14/17 Gauge, Straight pull 274MM
    Roval Joe - would the spoke length/type be the same for 2012 & 2013 Roval Control SL wheels? I found the following on the Specialized site but can't seem to find 289 mm or 299 mm lengths of the Revolution spokes anywhere, just 288 or 298.

    "The front wheels have two different lengths.
    289mm Driveside
    302mm Non-Drive
    Rear:
    299mm Driveside
    302mm Non-Drive

    These are all DT Swiss straight pull spokes."

    Thanks!

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    Roval Joe, could you confirm that Chinese carbon rim manufacturer Light-Bicycle (or their corporate company industry name) actually manufacture (or has been doing) carbon rims for Roval (aka Specialized) ?

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    Roval questions?

    Hey Joe, just read some news about the 2014 Roval wheels.
    Will there be changes in the new MY for the Roval Control Carbon 29 wheels too?

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    Hi Joe, I need spoke lengths for 2008 controle xc race disc, front and rear, and erd for both. Any bladed spokes available from later model 26 inch models that would fit ? Can I purchase these from salt lake, online?

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    Hi Joe,
    I have a 2012 Specialized Epic 29er with a set of Roval Control 29 Wheels. I recently broke a spoke on the Non-Drive side -rear wheel. I am having a very hard time getting accurate information on the spoke lengths required, spoke type, nipple compatibility,and price/availabilty of the different spokes needed for my wheel set.
    Can you help in my search for replacement parts? I'd like to know all different spoke lengths required, if the original nipples can be replaced with any other make, as I am trying to have a few spares on hand in the event of future failures.
    Thanks for your help
    Mike T

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yardstick View Post
    I popped the head off one of the rear, drive side spokes on my 2012 Enduro Expert Carbon w/ Roval Traverse wheels this weekend. Could I get the spoke lengths for those wheels?
    Yardstick, for drive side, you'll need a DT Supercomp spoke in 272mm, specialized part # S114600036.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsync View Post
    Hi Joe,

    One more question about the wheels, can I convert the front to a 9mm through axle? If it makes any difference the fork is a standard QR Rockshox Reba.

    Thanks,

    Kev
    Kev, no, there are no end caps to convert that to a 9mm thru axle

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCmtnbkr View Post
    Roval Joe - would the spoke length/type be the same for 2012 & 2013 Roval Control SL wheels? I found the following on the Specialized site but can't seem to find 289 mm or 299 mm lengths of the Revolution spokes anywhere, just 288 or 298.

    "The front wheels have two different lengths.
    289mm Driveside
    302mm Non-Drive
    Rear:
    299mm Driveside
    302mm Non-Drive

    These are all DT Swiss straight pull spokes."

    Thanks!
    Sorry DC, i'm a little lost here, as i can't see the original message. there are two different length sets i'm seeing in this message that look to be 26 and 29" versions. just PM me with what exactly you're looking for and i'll get you specialized part numbers for the correct lengths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bart_simpson View Post
    Hey Joe, just read some news about the 2014 Roval wheels.
    Will there be changes in the new MY for the Roval Control Carbon 29 wheels too?
    Hey Bart, Control 29 Carbon wheels will remain the same for '14. the only new wheel will be Control SL 29, which is completely redesigned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mteitsch View Post
    Hi Joe,
    I have a 2012 Specialized Epic 29er with a set of Roval Control 29 Wheels. I recently broke a spoke on the Non-Drive side -rear wheel. I am having a very hard time getting accurate information on the spoke lengths required, spoke type, nipple compatibility,and price/availabilty of the different spokes needed for my wheel set.
    Can you help in my search for replacement parts? I'd like to know all different spoke lengths required, if the original nipples can be replaced with any other make, as I am trying to have a few spares on hand in the event of future failures.
    Thanks for your help
    Mike T
    Mike T, i can help, but i'll need to know exactly which wheel you have. you mention you have an Epic, but do not mention model name, so i'm unclear if you have the Control Alloy wheels, or the Control SL carbon wheels. just let me know which you have and i can get you info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikemule View Post
    Hi Joe, I need spoke lengths for 2008 controle xc race disc, front and rear, and erd for both. Any bladed spokes available from later model 26 inch models that would fit ? Can I purchase these from salt lake, online?
    Bikemule, you'll have to have your Specialized dealer order these parts. I came along after those wheels were made, so it's best if you have the shop contact SLC customer service and get you sorted wtih spokes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roval Joe View Post
    Yardstick, for drive side, you'll need a DT Supercomp spoke in 272mm, specialized part # S114600036.
    Why use a proprietary spoke? I have called most of the Specialized dealers where I live and nobody has them. They can order them for $7 each! DNA Cycles, a concept store, claimed they had them but were trying to pass off some other spoke that didn't fit (right length, wrong threads). I am pissed that my $6k bike has been reduced to wall art in my garage because of one spoke I can't find anywhere. I haven't even worn out a set of tires or a chain on this bike yet. Good thing I'm not on a trip out of state with this bike. This kind of thing ensures that I will never buy another Specialized bike.


    Joe only answered 1/4 of my question but I did eventually find out the rest of the spoke lengths. If anyone needs spokes for a 2012 Roval Traverse 142+ wheelset or wants to relace them with something more common:

    Front Left: 274mm
    Front Right: 254mm
    Rear Left: 274mm
    Rear Right: 272mm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yardstick View Post
    Why use a proprietary spoke? I have called most of the Specialized dealers where I live and nobody has them. They can order them for $7 each! DNA Cycles, a concept store, claimed they had them buy were trying to pass off some other spoke that didn't fit (right length, wrong threads). I am pissed that my $6k bike has been reduced to wall art in my garage because of one spoke I can't find anywhere. I haven't even worn out a set of tires or a chain on this bike yet. Good thing I'm not on a trip out of state with this bike. This kind of thing ensures that I will never buy another Specialized bike.
    Yardstick, $7 seems pricey for this spoke- Did DNA quote you that price? Did the other shops say if the $7 was purchasing the spoke from us, or DT? I'd be happy to contact the shop and see why the price is as high as it is. Maybe you can PM me the details?

    Cost aside, these are not proprietary spokes like you'd find in an I9 or Mavic wheel. they are off the shelf spokes made by DT, we just order their standard product in the length we need for our wheels. Shops mostly stock J bend versions of these spokes since that's what the majority of shop built wheels are assembled with. To help situations like yours, we have created Roval service kits for shops to purchase that have all our spoke lengths included, plus other small parts for hubs to get easy repairs done quick. They have only been available for a few months, so not all shops have purchased them yet. Of course we also stock all our other spoke lengths in SLC for shops to order at a very reasonable price (this is why i'm surprised to hear your $7 quote).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yardstick View Post
    Why use a proprietary spoke? I have called most of the Specialized dealers where I live and nobody has them. They can order them for $7 each! DNA Cycles, a concept store, claimed they had them buy were trying to pass off some other spoke that didn't fit (right length, wrong threads). I am pissed that my $6k bike has been reduced to wall art in my garage because of one spoke I can't find anywhere. I haven't even worn out a set of tires or a chain on this bike yet. Good thing I'm not on a trip out of state with this bike. This kind of thing ensures that I will never buy another Specialized bike.
    I wanted to wait until Roval Joe chimed in with the correct answer before I shared my experience. I broke a spoke in my Roval Control SL 29 a couple weeks ago. Brought it into the shop and they said they didn't have any of the "straight pull DT spokes" in stock but that they would get one in for me ASAP. By the middle of the next week they had parts in stock for me and repaired it for free under warranty since the wheels are less than a year old. I think your shop(s) were giving you bad info and doing a disservice. When I bought my Rovals, it was partly based on a discussion of avoiding proprietary parts. I was told that the parts were rebadged DT stuff and replacements should be no problem. I was coming off of Mavic Crossmax wheels which performed great but were a pain in the ass to get parts for (such as $7 Zicral spokes which are apparently never kept in stock...).

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    Hi again Joe,
    I have a 2012 Specialized Epic 29er-Aluminum frame. I had it for less than a month when I experienced major problems with the original wheels with Joy hubs. Papa Wheelies , the shop where I bought the bike stood by their product and upgraded the wheel set to a set of Roval Control Trail 29 wheels. Which have been incredible. These wheels have aluminum rims and straight spokes. As I mentioned previously, I broke a rear spoke on the non-drive side and have been trying to get replacements. PW contacted Specialized and ordered spokes for both front and rear wheels as I would like to have spares on hand. The spokes I received are 304mm and 286mm long. The 304's are too long for the rear hub non drive side.
    I believe the correct size might be 300mm. Can you tell me what the recommended lengths for all spokes- front and rear/both sides should be?I'd like to get back to PW tomorrow to get the right spokes on order as it has already been two weeks since I broke the spoke. Thanks for your help,Joe!
    regards, Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by David C View Post
    Roval Joe, could you confirm that Chinese carbon rim manufacturer Light-Bicycle (or their corporate company industry name) actually manufacture (or has been doing) carbon rims for Roval (aka Specialized) ?

    Thanks very much !
    Hey David, sorry for missing this the other day! the carbon rim manufacturer DOES NOT make rims for Roval, or Specialized for that matter. These guys started popping up on our radar a couple years ago selling rims on the internet that looked very similar to ours wtih some of the dimensioning changed. We do not know much about how the rims are made, what the layup schedule is, etc, only that they look very similar to ours. I have read some mixed reviews on their performance, but that is all we know at this point.

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    Roval questions?

    Hi Joe, thanks for your reply. I understand there offering isn't comparable to yours in term of quality and R&D, hence the cost difference. Since I can't afford to drop $1k on one of your carbon wheelset, I'm looking into other options. If you were offering to purchase only the rims, then I would consider your products over theirs, but it's not the case.

    Someone actually wrote in the 26" rim carbon thread that his local Specialized shop rep told him LB was manufacturing some for Specialized. Just wanted to check out with you guys

    Thanks again !
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    Hi Joe,
    My bike is an Aluminum 2012 Epic 29er(red&white). The Roval wheels were an upgrade the shop gave me shortly after I got the bike after I had major problems with the original wheels with Joy hubs. The wheels are Roval Control Trail 29's - also Aluminum. I just re-measured the spoke lengths on both sides and they measure between 11-3/4 and 11-7/8"
    which translates to between 299 & 302mm. Can you verify this and also tell me what lengths the front spokes should be. Thanks for your help!
    Mike T

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    Quote Originally Posted by mteitsch View Post
    Hi Joe,
    My bike is an Aluminum 2012 Epic 29er(red&white). The Roval wheels were an upgrade the shop gave me shortly after I got the bike after I had major problems with the original wheels with Joy hubs. The wheels are Roval Control Trail 29's - also Aluminum. I just re-measured the spoke lengths on both sides and they measure between 11-3/4 and 11-7/8"
    which translates to between 299 & 302mm. Can you verify this and also tell me what lengths the front spokes should be. Thanks for your help!
    Mike T
    Mike T, thanks for clarifying! the front wheel is 285 drive side (part#S124600024) and 302 non drive (S2026037). Rear is 302 drive side (S2026037) and 304 non drive side (S2026038). These are DT Super Comp spokes, and you can have any Specialized dealer order them for you. You'll have to go through the shop to get a quote.
    Last edited by Roval Joe; 07-24-2013 at 08:29 PM. Reason: incomplete info

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    Quote Originally Posted by David C View Post
    Hi Joe, thanks for your reply. I understand there offering isn't comparable to yours in term of quality and R&D, hence the cost difference. Since I can't afford to drop $1k on one of your carbon wheelset, I'm looking into other options. If you were offering to purchase only the rims, then I would consider your products over theirs, but it's not the case.

    Someone actually wrote in the 26" rim carbon thread that his local Specialized shop rep told him LB was manufacturing some for Specialized. Just wanted to check out with you guys

    Thanks again !
    David C, Thank you for actually taking the time to check on this! Understand where you are coming from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roval Joe View Post
    Mike T, thanks for clarifying! the front wheel is 285 drive side (part#S124600024) and 302 non drive (S2026037). Rear is 302 drive side (S2026037) and 304 non drive side (S2026038). These are DT Super Comp spokes, and you can have any Specialized dealer order them for you. You'll have to go through the shop to get a quote.
    Hi Joe,
    I got in touch with the shop and they happen to have a few 302mm spokes on the shelf that they are sending. BTW the shop did send me some 304mm spokes previously,but they are too long for the non drive side rear wheel. have you heard of this in your travels?. I'm going to try to substitute the 302 (it's only 2mm shorter .080") but I hope it works.
    Thanks again for your assistance.
    Mike T

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    Hey joe, I have a set of DT 240S hubs. The front hub is 100mm QR hub currently. I really really want to run RWS skewer as I have had some terrible trouble with regular QR skewers, even internal cam ones. Can I use Roval end caps to convert it? That's all I'd need right? If so, can you list the part # for the skewer and end caps?
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    Joe -- dropped you a note by PM about a follow up query after a couple of months riding on the Control Trail SL 29s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roval Joe View Post
    Kev, no, there are no end caps to convert that to a 9mm thru axle
    Thanks for letting me know - Kev

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