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    Pepi's Tire Noodle - Lightweight Insert

    Anyone tried seen or tried these inserts? I noticed them in a picture posted on PB for coverage of the first WC XCO race this year. These are very intriguing to me. Had to use Google translate as I do not know Italian... https://www.bikesuspension.com/ptn-p...re-noodle.html

    Here is what I have found about them after some research. Low weight - claimed 80g each for medium 27.5 insert. That puts them about the same weight as Huck Norris. The design has more fill similar to Cush Core, maybe similar benefits?. Looks like there is a sheath around the foam that would keep sealant from soaking in (until it gets sliced form a hard hit). Price to USA is more little more than HN, but about half of CC. They are noted the as race only, so I wonder how durable they are. Seems like they would be good inserts for trail bikes.

    I would like to figure out what material they are made of so I can make my own. Wonder if the sheath is something they add or if it comes on that type of foam? Thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harryman View Post
    Thanks. I fixed it in my post.

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    Bought some Pepi's noodles, had some trouble fitting up the first tire and insert, but it was a lot easier on the second one.

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    I have been reading up on tire inserts (cushcore, pc, ftd, huck Norris etc)and all of a sudden I start seeing World Cup racers endorsing it. costs less, weighs less. Please review. I am placing an order as soon as I can figure out these euro sites, somebody smart beat me to the punch and carry this in the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by Losvar View Post
    Bought some Pepi's noodles, had some trouble fitting up the first tire and insert, but it was a lot easier on the second one.

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    But seriously how do you buy these the site is difficult. Take my money. 25mm internal width. 2.35-2.4 tire(tyre)

    https://www.instagram.com/ptn_pepis_tyre_noodle/

    I want this like yesterday

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    Quote Originally Posted by JROC View Post
    But seriously how do you buy these the site is difficult. Take my money. 25mm internal width. 2.35-2.4 tire(tyre)

    https://www.instagram.com/ptn_pepis_tyre_noodle/

    I want this like yesterday
    Click shop at the top, then type Ptn into the search bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shark View Post
    Click shop at the top, then type Ptn into the search bar.
    have you tried checking out. not so simple

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    Quote Originally Posted by Losvar View Post
    Bought some Pepi's noodles, had some trouble fitting up the first tire and insert, but it was a lot easier on the second one.

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    How firm are they? I mostly want a cushcore as they're quite firm and help resist tyre squirm more than anything. These look and sound a lot softer.

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    Huck Norris on the way but I still want PTN! Not a money thing, I thought the weight of Cushcore is dumb, go back to the engineering room and make it lighter. Spend god knows on dope wheels and then increase the weight by 1/3 and friggin expensive and a PIA to install/remove?! I am trying my best to protect my investment on carbon wheels. Everyone raves how inserts enhance feel. Warranty yes but the turnaround usually sucks. I am not trying to run super lowl pressures, I like the rear to wash out first obvi but racers saying they have blown out and finished races is cool. I have considered running cushcore in the rear only. Aaron Gwin says on some races he only runs FTD on rear wheel same concept.
    I am now considering these
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    The pros ran for years without these things, and so did we... What changed now that so many people are ruining rims without inserts?

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    Riding a mid travel 29er not a burly downhill rig. Casing jumps. Hitting rocks. Going fast. I hate hearing that sound and stopping/checking ok Iím good. edit entirely off topic who has these and can review? how have you purchased?
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    I bit the bullet and ordered a set. I ordered the large size as I wanted the most sidewall support and run a big 2.5 WTB Breakout on the rear. I probably won't use one in the front. I was going for to get a cushcore but Pepi's tyre noodle was cheaper for 2 than 1 Cushcore and less than half the weight. It'll probably take a few weeks to arrive being international mail from eBay but I'll come back with a review after I test it out.

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    It'll be interesting to see just how "race only" they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PHeller View Post
    It'll be interesting to see just how "race only" they are.
    Yeah longevity might be the key but I don't actually see where they state "race only" and they do mention durability so might be lucky. I'll have a spare so I'll periodically pop the bead and check it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRPABT1 View Post
    ...I don't actually see where they state "race only"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by literally View Post
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    Ahh ok, I wouldn't be surprised if that was some poor translation because their website and all the media on them has terrible English lol. But I also wouldn't be surprised for the weight if the noodle degrades fairly quickly. We shall see.

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    I tried to order them, they refunded me and said they donít ship to the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimarin View Post
    I tried to order them, they refunded me and said they donít ship to the US.
    I ordered mine through eBay, obviously non English speaking seller and they're on there way to Australia. They'd probably ship to the US too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRPABT1 View Post
    I ordered mine through eBay, obviously non English speaking seller and they're on there way to Australia. They'd probably ship to the US too.
    Thanks, just ordered a set. Cheap and light vs cushcore. Worth a shot. Ive been running cushcore and love everything about it but the weight.

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    I want to order some on Ebay, but can't figure out what the different sizes are... Small, Medium and Large ... of what...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnydrz View Post
    I want to order some on Ebay, but can't figure out what the different sizes are... Small, Medium and Large ... of what...?
    What size wheels do you have? How wide are your rims? Thatís plenty of info to work it out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimarin View Post
    Thanks, just ordered a set. Cheap and light vs cushcore. Worth a shot. Ive been running cushcore and love everything about it but the weight.
    Interested in your comparison to cushcore. I'm running CC and the added weight on long days is noticeable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robmac48 View Post
    What size wheels do you have? How wide are your rims? Thatís plenty of info to work it out...
    So small medium and large has to do with how wide my rim is? Not obvious on the website...

    So if I run 30mm inner width rims, I would order a size medium?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnydrz View Post
    So small medium and large has to do with how wide my rim is? Not obvious on the website...

    So if I run 30mm inner width rims, I would order a size medium?
    Thatís what I ordered for 30mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnydrz View Post
    So small medium and large has to do with how wide my rim is? Not obvious on the website...

    So if I run 30mm inner width rims, I would order a size medium?
    the pic I posted a few posts up has the sizing guide.

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    I ordered large for 30mm rim and a big WTB Breakout 2.5 tyre but I expect it to be a bit of a tight fit and would prefer it that way for sidewall support. I suspect the Pepi's Tire Noodle to be softer than Cushcore and hence less supportive of the sidewall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRPABT1 View Post
    I ordered large for 30mm rim and a big WTB Breakout 2.5 tyre but I expect it to be a bit of a tight fit and would prefer it that way for sidewall support. I suspect the Pepi's Tire Noodle to be softer than Cushcore and hence less supportive of the sidewall.
    These foam noodles are going to shrink quite a bit once the tire is inflated, you are putting 20+ pounds per square inch on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by In2falling View Post
    These foam noodles are going to shrink quite a bit once the tire is inflated, you are putting 20+ pounds per square inch on them.
    any math minds want to approximate the % of compression based on say 25psi in a standard 2.35 tire in all 3 diameters?

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    I received mine today. Just looking at them I canít imagine they would do much to stop a square edge rock strike. They are light, my 29ís came in at 70g and 80g. The foam isnít very dense. I found Huck Norris to be pretty useless as a hard strike will slice right though it. I doubt these will be be more protective than those. I donít think Iíd trust these for racing Enduro but I may run them in my carbon hoops for trail riding. For serious riding there isnít much that beats cushcore. Only thing with that is the weight. Iím off the bike for at least a few more weeks with a fractured thumb but Iíll post up once I can actually ride them.

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    See Richie Rude rolling down on the rim with his Cushcore and tyre hanging around the stays last weekend? I don't think anything is a cure all for poor line choice but any cushion between the tyre has to help.

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    Recieved and installed my tire noodle today, going to ride on it tomorrow morning. Install was easier than expected, they're a little elastic and not super tight on the rim so easy to get the tyre on the rim bed as you're fitting it. They aren't as stiff as Cushcore but are stiffer than they look and do seem to give a bit of support. The valves that came with are literally just generic steel valve stems that have been notched with a grinder. I installed it in a tyre that's just starting to show some wear so I'll see what it looks like once it's fully worn and I replace it.

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    Just finished my first proper ride on the noodle. I ran a pressure I know that I can get tyre squirm and hit the highest g-outs I could to induce squirm. I won't say the noodle eliminated squirm, but it definitely did something to reduce it. I have no doubt that Cushcore would do a better job at reducing squirm, just knowing how stuff they are but is it worth the weight penalty to you? Speaking of weight I can't say I even noticed the extra weight at all, my bike is far from a weight weenies dream at around 14kg with big heavy tires (WTB Breakout 2.5 on the rear with the noodle). So for me that's a decent investment win, only thing to see now is how long it lasts.

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    Pretty sure my tire noodle paid for itself on this morning's ride. One one of my local trails there is a natural waterfall (when we rarely get rain) that crosses a trail. It's a 5 meter section of just rocks (mostly sharp as we don't seem to get smooth one's) ranging from golf ball size up to abut grape fruit size. I managed to hit a large rock that was out of place at about 30kph and heard a horrible noise that sounded like my carbon run cracking and my spokes crying in pain lol. But the bike was still riding fine so I finished the segment and then assessed the damage. To my utter surprise I couldn't even see any damage at other other than my usual scratches and scrapes from rocks.

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    This looks like a solid product. Might have to give it a try.

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    Haven't felt my rim smack into rocks after fitting my noodles, used to feel it at least once on every ride before, running same pressure with and without (24 psi front 26 psi rear).

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    Why do you even need their valve stems?

    I mean the air is blowing in and the tire noodle is loose fitting and being blown away from the valve stem? Seems like the air would easily go where it needs to. If anything air would have a hard time reaching the tire tread side of the noodle.

    Anyways, I ordered a set hoping to reduce squirm on lightweight tires, prevent the occasional rock strike, and give me a bail out plan to ride back to the truck.

    Heck, I might ditch my tire repair kit as a result.

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