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    Pacenti tires

    I have some of the old Neo-moto's 2.3. Love them for their traction and how they work on the trail. I don't love how the sidewall leaks my stan's all over the place and how I have to re-fill it about every 2 weeks and how if it sits for 3 days, it loses the bead because it loses so much pressure. Can anyone tell me if: 1) there is a new tire that has these issues fixed, or 2) there is a similar tire out there (I'm not picky about brand; I would like something equal in tread) that won't be as high-maintenance?
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    locobaylor,


    As I am sure you know, our tires were not designed as tubeless / tubeless ready tires. The good news is Panaracer is taking over production for us, and will be adding their tubeless casing to future production of the Neo-Moto and Quasi-Moto tires.

    Panaracer adds Pacenti 650b tires to its line | Bicycle Retailer and Industry News


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk Pacenti View Post
    locobaylor,


    As I am sure you know, our tires were not designed as tubeless / tubeless ready tires. The good news is Panaracer is taking over production for us, and will be adding their tubeless casing to future production of the Neo-Moto and Quasi-Moto tires.

    Panaracer adds Pacenti 650b tires to its line | Bicycle Retailer and Industry News


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    Cool, it'll be great to have a tubeless NeoMoto option!

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    This is good news for Neo-moto lovers! I got worried when QBP dropped them.

    For the record, I have been running Neo's in 2.3 and 2.1 for a while, and I have never had issues with leaky sidewalls or overnight-deflation.

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    durty,

    Your experience seems to be typical for most of the people setting up Neo-Moto and Quasi-Moto tires tubeless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durtydurham View Post
    This is good news for Neo-moto lovers! I got worried when QBP dropped them.

    For the record, I have been running Neo's in 2.3 and 2.1 for a while, and I have never had issues with leaky sidewalls or overnight-deflation.
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    Maybe it depends on the production batch, but my experience has been much like the OP's. Glad to hear future versions will be tubeless ready.

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    While I did have good luck running Neos (both 2.1 & 2.3) tubeless, going to a proper tubeless casing and bead can only be a good thing.

    Hopefully, this will also include the Panaracer SC compound.

    My other wish is a slightly bigger volume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reformed roadie View Post
    While I did have good luck running Neos (both 2.1 & 2.3) tubeless, going to a proper tubeless casing and bead can only be a good thing.
    +1
    glad to see the tubeless ready update, and maybe expanded availability...??

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    My going on 2 yrs old, NeoMoto has been great tubeless. minimal sidewall leakage, if any, never noticed it. Still going strong up front. Great tire IME.

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    Great news for an already great tire!
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    Same here (no leakage issues I mean). Only problem I had was a burp on a front wheel due to operator error in checking psi at ~15 I would say(probably should do more than weekly ....)

    Does anyone know of a product that is thicker to help with sealing porous sidewalls a little better?
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    Kirk,
    I didn't remember that they weren't tubeless. But it seems my error was not your tire, per say. I've had this tire for over 5 years now, and the sidewall was just cracking and old. That's why it was leaking through. I'm guessing a new tire would be fine. This same tire sat on my wall for about a year, tubeless, and still had air and the bead set when I took it down for my bike. Sweet to hear about the coming of the tubeless version; I'm excited.

    locobaylor

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk Pacenti View Post
    locobaylor,


    As I am sure you know, our tires were not designed as tubeless / tubeless ready tires. The good news is Panaracer is taking over production for us, and will be adding their tubeless casing to future production of the Neo-Moto and Quasi-Moto tires.

    Panaracer adds Pacenti 650b tires to its line | Bicycle Retailer and Industry News


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    Any ETA when the Panaracer version will start hitting the shelves?

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    Bumping this-anyone know when panaracer's tubeless version of the NM will become available? Also wondering what it'll weigh.

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    I broke down and ordered some from Pro Bike Supply. I suppose these are the old version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveF View Post
    Bumping this-anyone know when panaracer's tubeless version of the NM will become available? Also wondering what it'll weigh.
    I will ask them for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk Pacenti View Post
    I will ask them for you.
    Thanks! If you get a chance that would be great...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveF View Post
    Thanks! If you get a chance that would be great...
    BTI should have some in mid-late November.

    I am sure QBP will also be stocking them soon, but as of right now, they have none on order.
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    Thanks Kirk! I'll ask at my LBS about ordering some soon...

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    KP, do you know if these will be available outside of the US? I don't mind paying 65 - 75 for a tyre but when I'm quoted between $64 and $95 to ship two tyres to Sydney it's a bit of a stretch, particularly when it only costs me $10 to ship 2 tyres from the UK and takes under a week.

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    Yes, Panaracer will make the tires available to all their international distributors. Have your LBS request them from the Panaracer distro in OZ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emu26 View Post
    KP, do you know if these will be available outside of the US? I don't mind paying 65 - 75 for a tyre but when I'm quoted between $64 and $95 to ship two tyres to Sydney it's a bit of a stretch, particularly when it only costs me $10 to ship 2 tyres from the UK and takes under a week.

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    Thanks Kirk

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    So has anyone seen the new panaracer neo-moto available in store or on-line yet? They are now listed on the Panaracer site and I notice that probikesupply has them advertised but interestingly enough neither the pictures nor the description have changed and there is an obvious claimed weight difference between the two so I am not sure what is going on there.

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    I love my Neo 2.3's. The listing on the Panaracer site is definitely different. The weight is less and the TPI is listed as 120, many more threads than the original (60?).

    Hmmmm.
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    Lower claimed weight/higher TPI sounds nice, but does that mean we are sacrificing durability?

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    I hope not, that's precisely why I want to give them a try. Greater reliability / durability with not much of a rolling resistance penalty over the RR's I currently use.

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    Anyone seen 2.3" NeoMoto tubeless/UST tires available anywhere yet?

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    still looking, and his rims are getting harder to find as well. Hmmm, not sure I'm happy that this 27.5" thing is starting to become popular.

    Probikeshop is listing them as panaracers but I am not 100% satisfied as neither the pics nor the descriptions have been changed, only the title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emu26 View Post
    still looking, and his rims are getting harder to find as well. Hmmm, not sure I'm happy that this 27.5" thing is starting to become popular.

    Probikeshop is listing them as panaracers but I am not 100% satisfied as neither the pics nor the descriptions have been changed, only the title.
    The 2.1 I received looks exactly like my old one. And the old one, after moving it to my new Scott, blew off while riding @ 30#. Took it to my shop to see if anything was wrong, held ok, put sealant in it, and it blew off again. Maybe stretched, worked fine on my WTB rims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveF View Post
    Anyone seen 2.3" NeoMoto tubeless/UST tires available anywhere yet?
    Jenson now have them listed with a 5 week delivery time

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinewmexico View Post
    The 2.1 I received looks exactly like my old one. And the old one, after moving it to my new Scott, blew off while riding @ 30#. Took it to my shop to see if anything was wrong, held ok, put sealant in it, and it blew off again. Maybe stretched, worked fine on my WTB rims.
    What rim did it blow off of on the Scott?

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    Quote Originally Posted by doismellbacon View Post
    What rim did it blow off of on the Scott?
    The Syncros/Alex that comes on the 740. I need to replace it with something lighter.

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    There you go.

    Sounds like you need to replace it with something lighter that's also built with high tolerances to the correct bead seat diameter to keep your tires from blowing off.

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    Been trying to research that. May be forced to try carbon.

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    I'd go a Pacenti rim if you can find anyone that has stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emu26 View Post
    I'd go a Pacenti rim if you can find anyone that has stock.
    BikeLugs.com

    Pacenti rims at clearance prices. See the PSA thread on this forum for more details.

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    yeah I know about bikelugs but that's rims only, no hubs, and many people, myself included don't want the hassle of buying different bits from different places to then take to a wheel builder and say build this up please. I bought mine from actionsports in Germany but they have been out of stock for months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emu26 View Post
    Jenson now have them listed with a 5 week delivery time
    Don't think that's the tubeless version, tho...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveF View Post
    Don't think that's the tubeless version, tho...
    Panaracer don't differentiate on their site so I don't know

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    Quote Originally Posted by emu26 View Post
    Panaracer don't differentiate on their site so I don't know
    Yeah, they don't list the UST version like with the Rampage, etc. But I'm pretty sure Kirk said they were coming so I'll continue to keep an eye out for them...

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    Actually they sell wheelsets as well. They lace them to hope hubs.

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    Otherwise there are plenty of aftermarket wheels like Fulcrum.

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    I just contacted Panaracer re availability of tubeless Neo and Quasi Motor 27.5 tires in US. Response: "LATE SUMMER 2014"

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    so that has changed again from what I was told less than a month ago.

    Thinking it's time for me to give up on trying these and move on to another brand.

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    That sucks. Yep, time to look at other 27.5 offerings. I've noticed the LBS's in my area are finally stocking 27.5 tires, so that's good.

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    Sort of related question...I see a few sites and ebay selling the neo-moto 2.1 listing a steel bead and they're cheaper. Is there a steel bead version out there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark16q View Post
    Sort of related question...I see a few sites and ebay selling the neo-moto 2.1 listing a steel bead and they're cheaper. Is there a steel bead version out there?
    I have never produced any steel beaded versions of any of my tires. And to the best of my knowledge, either has Panaracer.

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    That's what I thought, and wonder if these are fakes? I might order one just to see what the story is, but quite a bit less $ than the major stores.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk Pacenti View Post
    I have never produced any steel beaded versions of any of my tires. And to the best of my knowledge, either has Panaracer.

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    Bumping old thread. Anyone know if panaracer is now actually producing a steel bead version of the neo-moto?
    I found a few places online(not just on ebay) selling the tires cheaper than other places but the description says it has a steel bead and the part number seems different than the folding bead tires.
    Wanted to see if anyone has experience before I order the tires.
    TIA

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    I bought one off amazon that said steel bead and it was a perfect Panaracer folding Neo-Moto for a good price. Don't remember the vendor but just put the tire on last week and so far loving it! A good chunk heavier than the crossmark I was running, but rolls well and the traction is fantastic and very predictable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark16q View Post
    I bought one off amazon that said steel bead and it was a perfect Panaracer folding Neo-Moto for a good price. Don't remember the vendor but just put the tire on last week and so far loving it! A good chunk heavier than the crossmark I was running, but rolls well and the traction is fantastic and very predictable


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    Thanks for the info.
    I kind of figured it was just a confusion between the old Pacenti partnumber and the new panaracer partnumber.
    Anyway, found the tires for $36.95 each + $9.99 shipping(total including shipping for 2 tires came out to $83.89) @bikesonline.com so just ordered them. Hopefully get them soon

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