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    Quote Originally Posted by dscot420
    ...If it rolls like the nevegal...
    It does not, in a good way.
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    Dang those look sweet! If they bring out a slightly narrower one (I have some clearance issues for rear tires, so a 2.1 or 2.2 would be ideal for me) I will have to bypass the Cinders and go right to the Rampages. (Panaracers have a strong following up here where I live).
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    Shiggy you must tire of the comparison requests, but... how is the sidewall thickness compared to the Nevegal & Big Betty? I'm hoping for something closer to the Big Betty.

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    The Big Betty has a rubber insert in the sidewall. The Ram' and (folding) Neve' do not.
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    Run Tubeless?

    Hi Shiggy - appreciate your tire info!

    Have you tried to run the rampage tubeless? Are there any issues running these tires tubelesss? - either Stans or DT Tubeless?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by murphie
    Hi Shiggy - appreciate your tire info!

    Have you tried to run the rampage tubeless? Are there any issues running these tires tubelesss? - either Stans or DT Tubeless?

    Thanks!
    I will not do DIY tubeless but Panaracer endorses Stan's.
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    Wow, Stan's approved. Interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    It does not, in a good way.
    I guess this translates to less rolling resistance. Sweet.

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    According to Panaracer, they will now be in stores late September. I cannot wait!

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    I've been running the 2.1 Nev DTC in the back and the 2.1 Blue Groove Stick-E in the front. I have between 500 and 600 miles on the Nev, and have noticed a tremendous decrease in climbing and straight line braking traction. I took off the Nev and put back on a 2.00 Spec Fast Trak Pro I had laying around. HUGE increase in climbing traction. I'm wondering if the Rampage will last longer than the Nev.

    Still not on their site yet. I hope they offer it in 2.1. I only ride a Flux and don't need a 700 gram rear tire.

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    This thread was passed on to me and always looking for better tires. I had Single Track Cycles in North Bend ordered them in for me.

    They arrived on Saturday and I've put 14 miles on them on Sunday.

    I agree with everything being said on these tires so far. I took off a pair of Nevegals that were only a week old to give these tires a try.

    If they handle as well in wet conditions I'll be ordering another pair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkens
    This thread was passed on to me and always looking for better tires. I had Single Track Cycles in North Bend ordered them in for me.

    They arrived on Saturday and I've put 14 miles on them on Sunday.

    I agree with everything being said on these tires so far. I took off a pair of Nevegals that were only a week old to give these tires a try.

    If they handle as well in wet conditions I'll be ordering another pair.
    Did Single Track Cycles order them through QBP?

    Anyone else seeing these available? If so, around what price?

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    They ordered them through a Distributor in Washington. I paid $37 each.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkens
    They ordered them through a Distributor in Washington. I paid $37 each.
    That's a decent price!
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    Jenson USA has them on the web site

    But they're not in stock yet. Listed as $32

    http://jensonusa.com/store/product/T...+Mtb+Tire.aspx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkens
    They ordered them through a Distributor in Washington. I paid $37 each.
    Mostly likely from Seattle Bike Supply.
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    BTI shows them out of stock too... But then, I have no access to the "Dealer" Area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkens
    This thread was passed on to me and always looking for better tires. I had Single Track Cycles in North Bend ordered them in for me.

    They arrived on Saturday and I've put 14 miles on them on Sunday.

    I agree with everything being said on these tires so far. I took off a pair of Nevegals that were only a week old to give these tires a try.

    If they handle as well in wet conditions I'll be ordering another pair.
    How do they compare to the Kenda's, considering that they look almost identicle...???
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    xjbebop, say it isn't so. Please don't tell me you didn't read shiggy's comments throughout this thread. You now must sell your Turner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by royta
    xjbebop, say it isn't so. Please don't tell me you didn't read shiggy's comments throughout this thread. You now must sell your Turner.
    I just saw the pictures and saw a Nevegal with dressed-up knobs....why, you looking for a deal on a Spot???
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    The biggest difference I noticed right away and as mentioned by the originally reviewer is Rolling Resistance. There is a day and night difference between the two, you don't feel like your pushing around a big tractor tire. I've been running Kenda's for so long I had forgotten that they had that much resistance, I just liked the fact they did so well in the winter.

    I am riding in powder conditions right now, because of lack of rain all summer and on short steep climbs these tires are hooking up well in those conditions. The Kenda's were washing out in the corners, I haven't had that issue with these yet.

    It's suppose to rain all weekend, so I'll get some riding in wet conditions with these tires soon. If they don't grip the roots well like the Kenda's do in wet conditions then I'll go back to Kenda's. If they do then this will be my all season tire.

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    These tires too much for my Stumpy FSR?

    Hi Shiggy,

    In your opinion, would these tires be a good match for my Stumpy FSR? I do ride it All-Mountain style more than purely xc. And I'm on the East Coast here, so I'm dealing with quite a variety of terrain, from rocky babyhead territory to sandy and rooty to mud bogs after rain. Most places I ride tend to be smaller parks (compared to out West) that are pretty technical with lots of twisty turns and rolling land versus one big climb.

    Currently, I'm on the Specialized Resolutions/Adrenalines that came with my Stumpy, and they actually do pretty okay for the places I ride, with the exception of sand. But they're showing some wear, and I'm wondering whether to get the same tires or get something new. I'm shying away from the Nevegal's because of what everyone's said about rolling resistance.

    Anyway, any thoughts you may have would be appreciated.

    Best,
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    Quote Originally Posted by madgeronimo
    Hi Shiggy,

    In your opinion, would these tires be a good match for my Stumpy FSR? I do ride it All-Mountain style more than purely xc. And I'm on the East Coast here, so I'm dealing with quite a variety of terrain, from rocky babyhead territory to sandy and rooty to mud bogs after rain. Most places I ride tend to be smaller parks (compared to out West) that are pretty technical with lots of twisty turns and rolling land versus one big climb.

    Currently, I'm on the Specialized Resolutions/Adrenalines that came with my Stumpy, and they actually do pretty okay for the places I ride, with the exception of sand. But they're showing some wear, and I'm wondering whether to get the same tires or get something new. I'm shying away from the Nevegal's because of what everyone's said about rolling resistance.

    Anyway, any thoughts you may have would be appreciated.

    Best,
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    I live in NC and have a Stumpy FSR as well. I love the Adrenaline/Resolution as a front tire. I am running a Cinder in the rear. I absolutely love this combination and although the Cinder hooks up great, the rolling resistance makes it feel quite slow. I was looking for a replacement tire and the Rampage looks perfect.

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    Your stumpy

    Quote Originally Posted by Lumbee1
    I live in NC and have a Stumpy FSR as well. I love the Adrenaline/Resolution as a front tire. I am running a Cinder in the rear. I absolutely love this combination and although the Cinder hooks up great, the rolling resistance makes it feel quite slow. I was looking for a replacement tire and the Rampage looks perfect.
    That would be an interesting combo of tires. But wouldn't you have a fatter rear tire than front with the Rampage 2.35 in back and the 2.0 Resolution in front? The Resolution is a pretty chubby tire, however, for its stated width.

    I'm thinking I might order me a pair and try the Rampages front and back.

    I agree with you, though, that the Resolution is a better front tire than rear. I notice a bit of drag, especially on technical climbs. The tire does stick, but it doesn't have great roll back there.

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    As there have been several people, including myself who have expressed an interest in the Panaracer Rampage in a UST version, I thought that I'd post the following information from the UK based mountain bike forum "Bike Magic". It is from their report on Eurobike.

    "The Rampage is all-new. The square blocked tyre, designed as an all-rounder for all conditions and all terrains, comes in 2.1in (with UST option) or a proper 2.35in."

    Its a bit disappointing. It seems that some manufacturers shy away from making larger UST tires. The situation is the same with the Kenda Nevegal. They also only make it in a 2.1 UST version.

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    I'll take any UST I can get.

    As much as I would like a fatty, maybe the tread pattern makes up for it. Besides, the 2.1 weight is a plus.

    I'm just dying to get my hands of some of these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie
    As there have been several people, including myself who have expressed an interest in the Panaracer Rampage in a UST version, I thought that I'd post the following information from the UK based mountain bike forum "Bike Magic". It is from their report on Eurobike.

    "The Rampage is all-new. The square blocked tyre, designed as an all-rounder for all conditions and all terrains, comes in 2.1in (with UST option) or a proper 2.35in."

    Its a bit disappointing. It seems that some manufacturers shy away from making larger UST tires. The situation is the same with the Kenda Nevegal. They also only make it in a 2.1 UST version.

    Ronnie.
    FYI Panaracer offers some different models in the UK that are not available in the US. A UST version of the TrailRaker has been offered in Britain for at least a year. Not offered here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie
    As there have been several people, including myself who have expressed an interest in the Panaracer Rampage in a UST version, I thought that I'd post the following information from the UK based mountain bike forum "Bike Magic". It is from their report on Eurobike.

    "The Rampage is all-new. The square blocked tyre, designed as an all-rounder for all conditions and all terrains, comes in 2.1in (with UST option) or a proper 2.35in."

    Its a bit disappointing. It seems that some manufacturers shy away from making larger UST tires. The situation is the same with the Kenda Nevegal. They also only make it in a 2.1 UST version.

    Ronnie.
    well then... maybe I'll just have to grab the 2.35 and run it with stans on my mav 819's.
    seriously, is the bead on the rampage strong enough to withstand this?

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    Thanks for the update Shiggs; looks like something I would throw on the front of my bike. How does it compare to a Kenda Nevegal 2.1? How much does it weigh?
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    Well alright, a 2.1 non-UST will be offered. I just hope it get's offered in teh US soon. I hope it's tread life lasts longer than the 2.1 Nev non-UST. I've already lost significant climbing and braking traction in just 600 miles on mine. Maybe that's normal for the Nev, it doesn't seem like it should be though. Maybe I'm just riding more aggressively since switching from a hard tail to a squish bike.

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    What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? We already knew that from the very last sentence, HERE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    FYI Panaracer offers some different models in the UK that are not available in the US. A UST version of the TrailRaker has been offered in Britain for at least a year. Not offered here.
    Who cares, if only they made a 2.35 UST, I'd buy it online in the UK from someone like Chain Reaction Cycles.

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    I wasn't responding to you. Ice axe asked how much it weighed.

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    panaracer 'endorses' stans FWIW. I'm gonna give the 'regular' 2.35 a go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwind
    I wasn't responding to you. Ice axe asked how much it weighed.
    It does avoid confusion if you actually reply to the post in question
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    I DID. I happened to respond using an older mac operating system which will not quote other posters...

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    My pair of 26 x 2.35 Rampages arrived today, will take them out for a good ride on Sunday.

    Is it so wrong to have a rubber (tyre) fetish..? Wife seems to understand, but then she does have two horses...

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    Sir Shiggy...

    Shiggy.

    In the process of building up a new frame and know that the rampage is wider than all previous 29er tires what is the width on this one to ensure that the frame will clear.

    Any info on the new wtb 2.55 29er? Width?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crux
    Shiggy.

    In the process of building up a new frame and know that the rampage is wider than all previous 29er tires what is the width on this one to ensure that the frame will clear.

    Any info on the new wtb 2.55 29er? Width?
    Nope. I will not quote any dimensions until I personally measure the tire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwind
    I DID. I happened to respond using an older mac operating system which will not quote other posters...
    I guess you could copy the text you are responding to, and then physically type in the vB code yourself. It's not that difficult. See HERE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    Nope. I will not quote any dimensions until I personally measure the tire.
    Thought that you had a few sets to test. Thanks for being honest I'll wait longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crux
    Thought that you had a few sets to test. Thanks for being honest I'll wait longer.
    WTB has not seen me as "worthy" to receive any sample tires. The ones I have measured have come through other channels.
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    ordered a 2.35 Rampage from Webcyclery

    went on a Mavic 3.1 UST rim with a bit of Stans and soapy water.

    we'll see how it goes today on a ride

    stoked!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tappoix
    ordered a 2.35 Rampage from Webcyclery

    went on a Mavic 3.1 UST rim with a bit of Stans and soapy water.

    we'll see how it goes today on a ride

    stoked!
    PLease report back, as I'm going to try the VERY same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tappoix
    ordered a 2.35 Rampage from Webcyclery

    went on a Mavic 3.1 UST rim with a bit of Stans and soapy water.

    we'll see how it goes today on a ride

    stoked!
    They only have the Panaracer Fire Cross tire listed .o?

    edit: in 29er

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    The biggest difference i noticed when changing form 2.35 Nevegal on the front and single ply 2.35 Minion on the rear was the rolling resistance - or the lack of it. I pre-ordered some of these (in UK) and received them last week.

    I have only had three rides on them so far, but so far all the impressions aregood. Loads of grip on the turns and downhill and lack of rolling resistance going up. Even managed a stretch uphill in the big ring, not something I remember ever doing .
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    To dispel rumors and also hoping to encourage them to look at a larger UST tire, I sent the following mail to Panaracer:

    "It is with much interest that I have been reading reviews about your new Rampage 2.35 tire. I would like to enquire if this tire will be available as a UST variation in a 2.35 size? It is not just the weight weenie racing types that want tubeless tires. I have been riding a competitor's 2.3 UST tire on the rocky and rooty trails of New Jersey for two and a half years and never had a flat."

    I received the following reply:

    "We will introduce a 2.1 UST Rampage at Interbike. A 2.35 is still
    being worked on."

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    Quote Originally Posted by madgeronimo
    Hi Shiggy,

    In your opinion, would these tires be a good match for my Stumpy FSR? I do ride it All-Mountain style more than purely xc. And I'm on the East Coast here, so I'm dealing with quite a variety of terrain, from rocky babyhead territory to sandy and rooty to mud bogs after rain. Most places I ride tend to be smaller parks (compared to out West) that are pretty technical with lots of twisty turns and rolling land versus one big climb.

    Currently, I'm on the Specialized Resolutions/Adrenalines that came with my Stumpy, and they actually do pretty okay for the places I ride, with the exception of sand. But they're showing some wear, and I'm wondering whether to get the same tires or get something new. I'm shying away from the Nevegal's because of what everyone's said about rolling resistance.

    Anyway, any thoughts you may have would be appreciated.

    Best,
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    Patapsco Buddy, My favorite front tires are Adrenaline 2.0 and Mutanoraptor 2.4 for most places I ride. For baby heads in north NJ I like Adrenaline 2.2 - huge tire,a little slow rolling but you dont feel it while riding over big rocks. I prefer a light 2.0 tire for the rear like a Karma or Roll-x. A heavy, slow rolling big knob rear tire will spin out just as easy as a semi slick if you don't weight it properly or put too much air in it.

    Selecting tires is like buying a saddle. The only way to tell If you like it is to buy it and try it. Just because other people like it, does not mean that you'll like it. If Shiggy says the best tire is xxx brand and you go out and buy it and find it's a terrible, it's not his fault. After all, it is the best tire for Shiggy. So you must become a tire whore and buy and try as many tires as you can until you find what's best for you. Right Shiggy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwind
    PLease report back, as I'm going to try the VERY same thing.
    it rolled well, maybe a bit more resistance than my old worn down Geax Barro Marathon, but the treads are new and bigger. I have it mounted backwards so the ramp on the the center knobs faced backwards, and traction was good. Much better carving traction than the worn down Barro I was running.

    I will say that pre-ride, it had lost some air since yesterdays inflation, but a few quick pumps before I left my car and it was good to go. I started with 37 psi (tire says 35-55 psi) and that seemed a bit low. Maybe a bit sluggish and during the ride it burped once, causing it to get a bit too soft and roll over in the corners. I raised the psi to around 40 and it rolled much better. I think that it will need higher psi to stay on the rim and roll correctly.

    very happy with it so far. another ride tomorrow.

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