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    the old dart 2.2 SC was my front tire of choice in the early 90s
    hated the 2.1, LOVED the 2.2 SC

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    Quote Originally Posted by hammerheadbikes
    the old dart 2.2 SC was my front tire of choice in the early 90s
    hated the 2.1, LOVED the 2.2 SC
    Me, too. Not sure what it was about the 2.1 but it was just not as good.

    I scored a NOS Dart 2.2 SC a couple of months ago!
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    that's funny
    when I hear or see "NOS" I think of 12AX7 preamp tubes..
    old telefunkens, mullards, etc..

    I am a guitarist and an tube junkie

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    so what kind of weights are we talking here for these new tires?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrekFan
    so what kind of weights are we talking here for these new tires?
    The specs are in Shiggy's site... They are around 700grams for a 2.35 tube version.

    Shiggy: slightly off-topic but your pictures are interesting, I think it would be nice if there were pictures of the tires along with the specs on your site. It would be THE reference for real world tire specs and pictures.

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    better as front or rear tire?

    UST?

    tanks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tappoix
    better as front or rear tire?

    UST?

    tanks...
    Both.

    No.
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    FWIW, I contacted Panaracer back toward the beginning of the year as I was searching for a larger UST tire asking if they had plans for the Fire FR in UST. I commented on how much I like the Fire XC UST and would like the same just bigger. They commented that something new was coming later in the year.

    I'm guessing that since this new tire is very similar to the Fire and they hinted that a new larger volume UST was coming, this may be it.
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    Shiggy, will they come in other widths, such as a 2.1 or 2.5 even?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    The word from Panaracer:
    Rampage will be available in August from our distributors. Shops could have them in August including mail order.
    [Sniff] Thanks for getting me all excited about something to mate up with my Cinder. Look forward to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hammerheadbikes
    that's funny
    when I hear or see "NOS" I think of 12AX7 preamp tubes..
    old telefunkens, mullards, etc..

    I am a guitarist and an tube junkie
    Hehe that's true... a NOS Dart will run slightly cheaper than a NOS Mullard I guess... we're lucky here in the bike world! NOS tubes score insane prices... btw... NOS Sylvania 6CA7 would be tasty!

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    The Rampage 29x2.35 arrived today!
    Posing with the competition (in the top pic, l-r: Specialized Fast Trak 2.00, Bontrager Jones XR front 2.25, Panaracer Rampage 2.35, WTB Exiwolf 2.3, Maxxis Ignitor 2.10 - all 29")

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    Shiggy, care to share what each of those tires are? Or are we suppose test our knowledge and guess? heh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destroy
    Shiggy, care to share what each of those tires are? Or are we suppose test our knowledge and guess? heh.
    Everybody on the 29er board knows what they are!
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    How does the new rampage compare to the Fire XC's that everyone raves about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drumbum
    How does the new rampage compare to the Fire XC's that everyone raves about?
    I never cared much for the Fire XC so there is no comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trialsrookie
    Hehe that's true... a NOS Dart will run slightly cheaper than a NOS Mullard I guess... we're lucky here in the bike world! NOS tubes score insane prices... btw... NOS Sylvania 6CA7 would be tasty!
    I like STR's on 12AX7's... Less headroom but more crunch. It's sweetly dirty as the volume goes up.

    Any good humbuckers nowadays? Or still are the Duncan's 59's the pickup to have?

    Sorry for the off track.

    BTW... Those Rampages look sweet... seems like the "tyre du jour"
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    how do these perform in muddy conditions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbkr0101
    how do these perform in muddy conditions?
    Has not been muddy so I do not know. Have had a few very short wet/muddy spots and they worked fine though they were not enough to make any judgement one way or the other.

    I likely will not use in in the mud simply because I prefer narrower tires for mud and the Panaracer TrailRaker (1.95/2.1) is one of the best mudders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    Has not been muddy so I do not know. Have had a few very short wet/muddy spots and they worked fine though they were not enough to make any judgement one way or the other.

    I likely will not use in in the mud simply because I prefer narrower tires for mud and the Panaracer TrailRaker (1.95/2.1) is one of the best mudders.
    Send me a pair to Mexico City right now... we have mud to spare nowadays.
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    Those are some sweet looking tires. Nice to see panaracer coming out with something in the 2.35 range. I was amped on the FR2.4 until I mounted it up and found it to be more like a FR2.6. I also like the cinder 2.2, but find that I pinch flat it. This looks like an excellent tire smack in the middle and lighter to boot. Whoo hoo

    If it rolls like the nevegal, but grips better than this will be my new favorite AM tire. Off to QBP to see about getting me some of these

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    Quote Originally Posted by dscot420
    If it rolls like the nevegal, but grips better than this will be my new favorite AM tire. Off to QBP to see about getting me some of these
    From Panaracer a few weeks ago. As we are approaching Sept, don't know exact relaese date.



    Availability is September and we expect a retail of 36.99.

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    Shiggy, I have Nevegal 2.35 DTC's and one problem I've had is that at lower (but not too low) pressures, the tire deflects on hard corners, as well as upon landings. If I run the pressure just barely high enough to prevent this, I lose a significant amount of cornering traction.

    How would you compare the Rampage to the Nevegal in this respect? I'm running DT 5.1's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    Shiggy, I have Nevegal 2.35 DTC's and one problem I've had is that at lower (but not too low) pressures, the tire deflects on hard corners, as well as upon landings. If I run the pressure just barely high enough to prevent this, I lose a significant amount of cornering traction.

    How would you compare the Rampage to the Nevegal in this respect? I'm running DT 5.1's.
    I do not have problems with either tire. I have been running the Rampage as low as 22-25psi on a 22mm wide (outside) rim. I corner hard, not much of a jumper.
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