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    New Carbonfan Wheels

    I just received my new wheelset from Carbonfan.com. I am participating in their customer review plan and received a discount on the wheelset. That being said I'll do my best to provide as honest and impartial review. Check out the pictures below and the Youtube video I made here. This review is just for unboxing and setting up the wheelset. Ride review to come at a later date.

    Wheelset Details:
    29" Carbonfan XY Asymmetric Rims - 29mm internal/35mm external width, 28H
    DT Swiss 350 Boost, straight pull, centerlock
    Sapim CX Ray and black aluminum nipples
    Weight: 676g (F) + 782g (R) = 1458g (without tape/valves)
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    Additional Thoughts:
    I emailed with Carbonfan all of my questions and Nathan was very good about answering every question.
    Bike is a large Pivot Mach 429 Trail.
    I had a difficult time deciding between 26mm and 29mm internal width rims for my Specialized Purgatory (F) and Ground Control (R) tires, both 29"x2.3". I decided on the 29mm IW because Specialized specifies 29/30mm IW rims for their trail bikes with the same size tires. My previous wheels were DT Swiss Spline M1700 which were 22.5 IW. The increase in volume with the new rims are pretty noticable and the casing width increased from 2.2" to 2.3".
    I wasn't able to weigh the rims individually but I calculated the rims to average about 411g each using published weights of the hubs/spokes/nipples.
    Initial quality seems good. I didn't see anything that made me concerned about the riding the wheels.
    I placed my order through the Carbonfan website and provided feedback to help make the process more straightforward.
    It took some time for the wheels to finally ship and delivery time was about a week. Shipping cost was included in the price of the wheels.
    The decals on the rims are removable for those who prefer a stealth look.
    I can't speak to the durability of the rim but it seems pretty robust. No tools were necessary to put the tires on and both aired up with a floor pump. The beads clearly popped into place.

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    thank you, looking forward to see your feedback later.
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    subscribed as also keen to hear feedback

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoao View Post
    thank you, looking forward to see your feedback later.
    Is your customer review plan still looking for additional participants? I might be interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaalgorn View Post
    Is your customer review plan still looking for additional participants? I might be interested.
    hi Bhaalgorn, would you please send us mail at info@carbonfan.com .
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    First Ride Impressions

    So I was able to get a first ride on the new wheels and Iím happy to report that I was impressed with their performance. Bike setup was the same except for the new wheels and slightly reduced tire pressures. Old wheelset was DT Swiss Spline Two M1700: aluminum, 22.5mm internal width, DT Spline hubs with 28 DT Competition straight pull spokes and centerlock; New wheelset is Carbonfan XY AM: carbon, 29mm internal width, DT 350 hubs with 28 Sapim CX Ray straight pull spokes and centerlock. Wheelsets are similar except for differences in the rim and spokes.

    The ride was approximately 12 mile loop with 1800í of climbing according to my Garmin Edge 500 computer. Itís a trail Iíve ridden lots of times so Iím familiar with the sections of the trail that are challenging for me. The trail I rode was mostly dirt singletrack with some exposed roots but not really rocky. Throughout the ride, three characteristics seemed to be the most noticeable to me as described below.

    Increased traction: Just that. The combination of wider rim and lower tire pressure results in a larger contact patch between tire and trail resulting in increased traction. I had plenty of climbing traction and never felt the rear tire slip, even when I thought it might.

    Increased sidewall support: I was concerned that riding such low pressure (18 psi F, 20 psi R) would result in tire squirm but I didnít experience that. Granted my tires are Specialized Grid casing so they do offer increased sidewall support. The tires felt more stable in off-camber sections of the trail where I normally would exercise some caution. Also the bike felt like it was more stable cornering at speed.

    Increased stiffness: I noticed a more distinct transfer of power to the wheels from the cranks. DW Link bikes already exhibit this trait but I seemed more pronounced with the carbon wheelset. This could also be attributed to the decreased rotating mass of the carbon rims. I also remember some pretty brake-rutted sections of the trail where the wheels held their line admirably well, probably better than my aluminum wheelset would have. While stiffer, I didnít feel the rims were overly stiff. In fact the ride quality on the new wheelset felt pretty normal. Increased tire volume and lower pressures probably helped in this area.

    I realize my observations are probably typical when going from a narrower aluminum rim to a wider carbon. Furthermore, I donít have any quantifiable data corroborating my experiences. I am only relaying my perceptions of the differences in my bike's handling that specific day, while riding a trail I was familiar with, changing only the wheelset and tire pressures. Your mileage may vary.

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    this is the most value able review We have never seen, we have translated this and send to ours engineer team actually. hope You enjoy your riding all the time .
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    looks like auburn, thanks for the review!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoao View Post
    this is the most value able review We have never seen, we have translated this and send to ours engineer team actually. hope You enjoy your riding all the time .
    Happy to hear you found my review valuable. Thank you for offering a nice product at a competitive price point! I'm enjoying the new wheels so far and am looking forward to putting more miles on them! I'll provide updates with how the wheels are holding up after more extended miles. Sorry you hadn't seen my review. I thought you might have been subscribed to the thread since you posted here prior. Let me know if you have any questions.

    Quote Originally Posted by redmr2_man View Post
    looks like auburn, thanks for the review!
    Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the review. Yep, Foresthill Divide.

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    This is timely as I received a set of Carbonfan wheels myself recently. Not part of the customer review plan, did not know they had that, but here's my short term review. Ordered 27.5 XY asym wheels, 34id/40od to run 2.8 tires on my Canfield EPO. Went with Hope Pro4 hubs and Pillar bladed spokes. I came up with about 1600g just ballparking weights on their website and wheelset came in actual at 1616g so that was impressive. Got regular AM layup and not the DH version.

    Delivery time was 2.5 weeks from order and arrived well packaged and undamaged. The wheel build is spot on and perfectly true. I requested 3x vs standard 2x build which they did. The included tape fit perfect and mounted up Maxxis Rekon 2.8's with zero problems, Beads seated in with a reassuring pop. Aired up to 35 PSI and rolled around to spread the sealant, checked the next day and still holding.

    I've got 100 ish miles now through rocky AZ terrain with minor jumps and drops, they have been perfect thus far. No pops, pings, flex or other unwanted stuff and still perfectly true. Very solid performance and hard to beat the price.

    I did have an issue getting system emails from them (no order confirmation or shipping notice) but Nathan answered my queries very promptly an apologized for the email issue. One suggestion I have is to include manufacturer instructions for whatever hub is chosen if possible. I ran into an issue mounting SRAM XD cassette and had to go to Hopeís website to figure out the end cap has to come off to tighten down. Never ran Hope hubs so wasnít aware but helpful if the instructions had come with the wheels.

    Iíll report back longer term but so far so good and would not hesitate to buy from them again.

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    Nice review. Thanks for sharing!

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    It was time for me to get another wheelset - and these intrigued me. I currently have bikes on LB carbon wheelsets, DT swiss 1501 spline wheelsets for comparison.

    The setup I went for from Carbonfan is as follows:

    27.5 XY asymmetric rims, 35mm od / 29mm id, 28 holes
    mounted up onto DT swiss 240s 100/142 6 bolt straight pull hubs
    pillar spokes and brass nipples

    Selecting the configuration on their website was fairly straightforward - except their automatic weight estimator was not functioning - not a big deal, but it warranted an email to see what their customer service was all about.

    Email sent, and Nathan responded in a timely fashion (especially considering time differences between Canada and China. He provided the approx weights of my items and was looking at 1200g total - alarm bells going off, no way it could be that light. Re-checked and only one rim had been calculated in - I need both!

    So estimated weight was then reset at 1450 (ish) g.

    Price looked good, and shipping from China to Vancouver was included.

    A few more emails, back and forth, and I was willing to place the order now button on the 16th of May. Paypal order went smooth, and then I waited.

    I knew it would take a bit of time - "custom" build and shipping, plus getting through Canadian customs.

    By the 4th of June, I still had not heard anything about the build/wheels being shipped. So I sent another email to Nathan - he responded within an hour, advising that the wheels had been shipped a few days before - and he then provided me with a tracking number. For some reason their automated system failed to send me the tracking number ahead of time - No harm, no foul, and the wheels appeared on my doorstep on the 6th of June.

    I did have to pay $60 taxes to the Canadian government - That is no fault of Carbonfan, and like death, taxes are unavoidable.

    The wheels arrived fully intact, and I am very satisfied with the initial quality of both the wheelbuild, and the apparent quality of the carbon rims. Into the truing stand - they are running true / no hopping, dished properly, and spoke tension on all spokes was checked with satisfactory results. The bladed spokes gave no indication of spoke windup during the build process.

    Wheelset weight, with no rim tape and no valves came to 770g rear, 669g front - 1439g total.


    Now for the bad news - I am going to be out of town for the next few days, and am not going to be able to test ride these until mid next week. I hate having shiny new parts waiting to be used.

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    Nice! Please provide your thoughts once you're able to ride them. I'm curious how they compare to your other wheelsets.

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    Finally had a chance to get a ride in on the carbonfans.

    Did a 15 km loop out my backyard on the hardtail with the XM1501 spline wheelset, back home, swapped the carbonfan wheelset onto the same bike , and did the same 15km loop.

    Same model / size of tires (carbonfans had brand new rubber on them). Immediately noticed the rotational mass of the carbonfan rear wheel being a bit lighter - for certain it spins up a bit easier (not huge amounts) - more noticeable on smooth surfaces then on tech climb.

    On rough decents, I notice either the carbonfan wheelset being stiffer, or maybe I need to run a bit less tire pressure as the bike seemed to skip around / deflect off stuff more then the XM1501 wheelset did. Maybe I was more tired and that was it.

    I am going to do the same thing on Sunday, except will run the carbonfan wheelset first.

    Did not hear any spokes making noises during the ride. Re-checked the tensions, and they were all where they were from when I unpacked the box. Am happy with the product so far. Next weekend I will probably migrate the wheelset to the FS bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 006_007 View Post
    ...On rough decents, I notice either the carbonfan wheelset being stiffer, or maybe I need to run a bit less tire pressure as the bike seemed to skip around / deflect off stuff more then the XM1501 wheelset did. ...
    When I switched from 21mm IW rims to 29mm IW Carbonfan wheels I had to drop tire pressures a pound or two to get the same ride quality, which I attributed the the wider effective tire width with the wider rims.
    Do the math.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Rager View Post
    When I switched from 21mm IW rims to 29mm IW Carbonfan wheels I had to drop tire pressures a pound or two to get the same ride quality, which I attributed the the wider effective tire width with the wider rims.
    I am not entirely convinced on this as I have done a comparison between the XM1501 wheelset and a easton arc30 wheelset - and did not have the same experience that I have had between the xm1501 and the carbonfans.

    It could be that the lighter wheelset does not plow through stuff the same way (gets deflected off of objects more) or it could be that the carbon wheelset is stiffer and instead of absorbing the impacts it is deflecting slightly?

    Either way, it is not a deal breaker - more a matter of adjusting tire pressure and / or suspension settings slightly.

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