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    Most affordable high engagement hubs

    Looking for some suggestions of some affordable high engagement hubs that take an xd driver body. I ride with lots of stop start techy climbs where I ratchet a lot. My new bike has dt 350 hubs. Robust may be but at 18 POE just to slow for me.
    Halo supa drive at 120poe is good value but as far as i'm aware does not accept an xd driver body
    Hope is affordable and has 40poe

    Any other suggestions on others. Please do not suggest Hadley, king, e13, kappius etc. As much as I would love a set I can't justify spending 600 bucks on a hub.

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    Just get the 36T ratchet upgrade from DT or the new 54T ratchet from trek dealers. They are kind of expensive but cheaper than buying a quality hub and paying to have your wheel rebuilt.

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    I think you need to go to a trek dealer to order the 54T ratchets.

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    I had thought of the 54. Tossing up between that or different hub

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    The best value is definitely getting the higher number ratchet. Second would be the Hope Pro 2.

    Although the Halo supa drive may have 120 teeth in the drive ring it's engagement is not 360/120 because it uses pawls that slide on a ramp and wedge against the drive ring. So, every time you pedal forward you have to take into account the movement of the wedge shaped pawls. A typical pawl only pivots and is spring loaded and will directly engage with the drive ring.

    So instead of the supa being 3 deg of engagement it's somewhere between 5 and 10.

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    My opinion: if you are going to spring for Hope, why not spend the extra $30 and get a Hadley?
    E13 TRS+ is 60pt, about $250 and is available with a xd, but again, Hadley is only $280...
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    The MTB270 from bikehubstore.com has 48 POE for $85. That's pretty hard to beat for "most affordable high engagement" hub.

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    Oh how cheap stuff is in the US. That's some good prices. Probably twice that in Australia haha. Might have to find someone who ships international at good prices. I'm building a new wheel and the only thing I'm hesitant with is the long term durability of the 54 poe rings, not a lot of surface area there. Might just spend 100bucks more and get a new hub. 54 poe rings will be 140 anyway

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    I have a set of bitex. Haven't put them through the ringer yet so not sure on durability, but I haven't heard anything bad about them.
    Bitex + Bicycle & Wheelchair hub

    Oh and probably the most affordable. They shipped directly to me.
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    The Bike Hub Store MTB270 is the Bitex hub as far as I can tell, cheapest "high" engagement hub I'm aware of.
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    All I can find is its 6 prawls. How many poe is the bitex/mtb270

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    Quote Originally Posted by thrower78 View Post
    All I can find is its 6 prawls. How many poe is the bitex/mtb270

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    I believe Bitex are 54 POE. 6 pawls in which 2 sets of 3 are clocked so that only 3 pawls engage in the 27 teeth at a time. The pairs of 3 are offset 1/2 tooth so the carrier turns 1/2 tooth before the other set of 3 engage. 27 teeth X2=54 POE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thrower78 View Post
    All I can find is its 6 prawls. How many poe is the bitex/mtb270

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    The MTB270 that I got a few weeks ago was 48 POE.

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    Looks like 54 is coming . . .
    Even their ad is conflicting
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    I was just told that the MTB270 I ordered will be 27T, 6 pawl. So I think it is technically impossible for these to be 24/48T POE... right?

    It'd either be 27T or 54T POE.

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    I know little about the MTB270 but understand it is a brand X hub. Is the super-inexpensive pawl system as good as the DT Swiss construction? 1,000 points of engagement won't do anything for you if it is not a good reliable build, with good bearings. The DT350 that you already have is definitely a good quality hub. I don't see why you don't just try putting the DT 36t ratchet into your existing hubs. The installation requires no tools and takes less than 5 minutes even for a novice. 36t is more than enough for most people (certainly for me) and it makes little sense to downgrade the overall quality of the hub to get more POE.

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    Just noticed you are building a new wheel. If you have ridden hubs with cheapo bearings (most low-end OEM wheels) then you likely would not want that on something you pour time into.

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    My bitex hubs have enduro bearings.
    I also hear the 36t dt ratchets are prone to chipping failure.
    I have dt 350 and have not upgraded the ratchets as I hear many people just go back to the 18 after failure of the 36.
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    It sure looks like these two hubs are not the same, Bitex has some history..1928 or something...

    I'm up to my neck researching hubs right now..
    Looks like Bitex only sells direct..no retail..I just emailed them for pricing...
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    well now I see them they are close..can't find the same side image..ahhhrrgg

    The Bitex site says sealed bearing but the bikehubstore doesn't say if the bearings are sealed.

    Sorry OP if I HighJACKED too much..
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    Do the DT 36 POE upgrade. If you do not race.....its more than sufficient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burt4x4 View Post
    It sure looks like these two hubs are not the same, Bitex has some history..1928 or something...

    I'm up to my neck researching hubs right now..
    Looks like Bitex only sells direct..no retail..I just emailed them for pricing...
    Still looks like kissing cousins if not the same. The MTB270 has a 6 pawl, 27T freehub. AND the 10x135 >> 12x142 conversion includes end caps and a new axle (as shown in the Bitex pic above).

    The freehubs on the Bitex site looks very similar to the freehubs on the BHS MTB270 site.

    If they ain't twins, they're damn sure related!

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    Agree^^ one being more shiny than the other made me think otherwise for a bit...seeing thoes pics togeather..same bone structure for sure..but whats really going on inside is a bit vegue...$$ waiting to hear from Bitex $$
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    Just got a shipment notification for my MTB270 135 and a 142 conversion kit (figured might as well have both standards handy).

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    Cool, post up when you getum...
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    i'm interested to see how much these are. i have been spoiled by my kings but can't afford to put them on all my bikes.
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