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    Mezcal 2.25 and 2.35 appear to be the same tire....

    A friend of mine mounted 27.5's of both sizes and using calipers, they measured identical.
    I just received my 29's in both sizes and comparing while still in packaged, they also appear to be the same size.....'so much for putting the larger tire on the front.

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    Let us know if one pair stretches out more than the other after they've been aired up for a week. Did you weigh them to see if the 2.35 was heavier than the 2.25?

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    I haven’t tried a 27.5 mezcal, but my 29x2.35 is true to size on 30mm rims. Just measured it and it is closer to 2.37 and right at the same size as an Ardent Race 2.35 FWIW.
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    I've always wondered about that. I mounted some 29x2.35's that were no wider than 2.2s and the specs should that the 2.35 and 2.25's are the same weight.

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    They have a 2.6 x 29 listed. Hope it's high volume when it shows up. You may be able to run that as a front.
    How wide is the casing when flattened on the 2.35?
    A Bontrager XR2 Team 2.35 is 5-7/8" or 149.225mm.

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    I just weighed them (still packaged as I'm not sure I'll keep) and the 2.35 is 18 grams heavier than the 2.25. That seems to be within spec's stated on packaging, but quite negligible (IMO), and certainly could vary between production runs.
    By comparison my current Ikons have a difference of 60 grams, comparing 2.2 and 2.35. That said, the tread pattern and knobs are slightly different, but this is also what I was hoping to see when comparing the 2.25 and 2.35 Mezcal's.
    I have a 2.25 Mezcal mounted on my SJ, but these (2) new tires are for a build in-progress and don't have the wheels (LB AM928's) yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfdog93 View Post
    I just weighed them (still packaged as I'm not sure I'll keep) and the 2.35 is 18 grams heavier than the 2.25. That seems to be within spec's stated on packaging, but quite negligible (IMO), and certainly could vary between production runs.
    By comparison my current Ikons have a difference of 60 grams, comparing 2.2 and 2.35. That said, the tread pattern and knobs are slightly different, but this is also what I was hoping to see when comparing the 2.25 and 2.35 Mezcal's.
    I have a 2.25 Mezcal mounted on my SJ, but these (2) new tires are for a build in-progress and don't have the wheels (LB AM928's) yet.
    So, are you saying the tread pattern, knobs, and tread width are the same on the 2.25 and 2.35 Mezcals? If so, then maybe just the casing is a little bigger on the 2.35.

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    Easy solution, measure them bead to bead laid/stretched flat, that's the only true and honest measurement to find out if casing volume is the same. Then if you're so inclined after having them mounted and aired up for a bit to stretch, you could remove them and measure again and see if anything's changed.
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    According to the Vittoria.com website, the ETRTO number difference between the 2.25 and 2.35 Mezcal's are tiny...55-622 (2.25) versus 57-622 (2.35). So that would mean just 2mm wider which isn't much at all. They have the weight being 710 grams for both. I don't know why they'd even bother making the tires so similar in size unless I'm missing something?

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    I don't have a 2.25 Mezcal to compare my 2.35 to, but I can say the 2.35 Mezcal is much larger than the 2.25 Barzo and Peyotes I have.

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    A lot of people have said the 2.25 mezcal runs big. Is the 2.35 measuring small or is the 2.25 measuring big?

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    the 2.25 does run big. 2.28 on my 22.5mm rim. Never tried the 2.35, but I'm less curious to do it after reading this thread. The Barzo 2.25 measure about 2.2. That one I would be more curious to try the 2.35

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    I think you may be reading too much into this thread. The Mezcal is a true 2.35, unlike a lot of tires out there labeled as such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneStar View Post
    I think you may be reading too much into this thread. The Mezcal is a true 2.35, unlike a lot of tires out there labeled as such.
    I guess I will go with the 2.25 Mezcal to replace my 2.30 Fast Trak tubeless then. With the new 2.3 Fast Track I have 3-4 mm of space between the tire and the chainstays on my 2014 Scott Scale carbon frame. It sounds like the 2.25 Mezcal will be the same size.

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    Hmmm, that isn't a lot of space. I've had some specialized 2.3 tires in ground control and slaughter and the mezcal 2.35 is significantly bigger.

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    How big is the 2.35 barzo? I am curious about a set of these for next year. A 2.3 morsa barely fits in the back of my bike.

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    My friends' 27.5 Mezcals
    2.25 on 25mm wheel = 2.250" casing
    2.35 on 30mm wheel = 2.265" casing

    So, 0.015" difference, which could be due to the different wheels, and certainly not near the 0.1" advertised. Measured by retired machinist / engineer and in his opinion, the tires are the same.
    I emailed Vittoria a couple of days ago, but have not heard back.

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    I think I'd send it back and get a replacement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfdog93 View Post
    My friends' 27.5 Mezcals
    2.25 on 25mm wheel = 2.250" casing
    2.35 on 30mm wheel = 2.265" casing

    So, 0.015" difference, which could be due to the different wheels, and certainly not near the 0.1" advertised. Measured by retired machinist / engineer and in his opinion, the tires are the same.
    I emailed Vittoria a couple of days ago, but have not heard back.
    Please let us know their reply if you hear back from them.

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    Had the same issue a while back with a mezcal where the 29x2.35 was coming in short. Contacted Vittoria and they confirmed they had some bad batches that were coming in smaller for some reason. They offered to replace for me with whatever I wanted (provided I showed proof of purchase). Seems like some of those may still be floating around.

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    hoping that you can tell me the Mezcal's shape when mounted. Is it very rounded (like a Bontrager tyre), or flatter, thanks!

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    Pretty much every Vittoria tire that I have ever used, aside from the Sturdy, has had a more rounded profile. With the tires that utilize a micro knob or small knob tread pattern this is more apparent.

    The Sturdy is just stupid aggressive and knobby with huge lugs so I doubt it would ever be considered "rounded".... LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregnash View Post
    Pretty much every Vittoria tire that I have ever used, aside from the Sturdy, has had a more rounded profile. With the tires that utilize a micro knob or small knob tread pattern this is more apparent.

    The Sturdy is just stupid aggressive and knobby with huge lugs so I doubt it would ever be considered "rounded".... LOL
    Thanks!

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