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    I just laced up my first set of wheels and... problem?

    32 hole, 3-cross, Woodman LTI hubs, Pacenti TL-28 26" rims and Wheelsmith DB14 spokes.

    It seems like the spokes on the outside of the hub are too long but they are the same length as the ones on the inside of the hub (with the head out).
    Is this something that is going to work itself out during tensioning and truing or do I have a problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surestick Malone View Post
    32 hole, 3-cross, Woodman LTI hubs, Pacenti TL-28 26" rims and Wheelsmith DB14 spokes.

    It seems like the spokes on the outside of the hub are too long but they are the same length as the ones on the inside of the hub (with the head out).
    Is this something that is going to work itself out during tensioning and truing or do I have a problem?
    95% sure you mislaced it. Same issue as in this thread:
    First wheel build: spoke issues.
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    Shiggy is correct.
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    Yup, that sounds like the exact same issue I have and I used the same video they mention as it seemed the easiest to follow.
    Oh well, lacing them up the first time was fun (I was actually trying to think of an excuse to build up another set of wheels) so it's not like I mind having to do it again!
    Thanks!

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    Another possibility is that the spokes are too long for your 3 cross pattern. (unless my eyes are playing tricks on me it looks 3 cross).
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    I considered that but it's only some spokes and some seem a bit short.
    And, yes, three cross.

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    Yup that was me to. Do your self a favour and read sheldon browns page. Read it as many times as you need. Looks like you used the same video I did and it wasted 3 nights of my life.

    I ended up having the trailing spokes running in the opposite direction that they should have been. Shiggy and a few other helped me through it.

    Looking at you inners, they are running in the opposite direction as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surestick Malone View Post
    I considered that but it's only some spokes and some seem a bit short.
    And, yes, three cross.
    It's the issue I said... 100%. I can see it. Read that thread and look at the diagrams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by machine4321 View Post
    Yup that was me to. Do your self a favour and read sheldon browns page. Read it as many times as you need. Looks like you used the same video I did and it wasted 3 nights of my life.

    I ended up having the trailing spokes running in the opposite direction that they should have been. Shiggy and a few other helped me through it.


    Looking at you inners, they are running in the opposite direction as well.
    For the direction of the in and the out spokes I used the direction Shimano suggests for disc brake wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surestick Malone View Post
    For the direction of the in and the out spokes I used the direction Shimano suggests for disc brake wheels.
    Dood. Read the thread linked for you. It's not about ins and outs but how you laced the two sides relative to each other.
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    I say tighten them nipples snug and ride 'em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather View Post
    Dood. Read the thread linked for you. It's not about ins and outs but how you laced the two sides relative to each other.
    I understand that. My reply was to Machine4321's post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surestick malone View Post
    i understand that. My reply was to machine4321's post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malibu412 View Post
    I say tighten them nipples snug and ride 'em.
    That is not possible given how the wheel is laced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather View Post
    That is not possible given how the wheel is laced.
    Oh its possible..... for a minute!

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    Quote Originally Posted by codyh12345 View Post
    Oh its possible..... for a minute!
    Not possible to tighten the nipples, so you can not get to the "ride 'em" phase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by machine4321 View Post
    Do your self a favour and read sheldon browns page. Read it as many times as you need.
    +1 Stop messing around and follow Sheldon's advice.
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