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    East Coast Fall and Winter Tires

    What time do you recommend to ride when leaves fall, trails are damp, possible light snow with freeze thaw and frozen? Small rocks and roots.

    Anyone have Vittoria or new Hans Dampf experience?

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    Southeast/Appalachian foothills here, but same kind of stuff-lots of rocks and roots with pine straw and duff over whatever, which turns into a slip&slide when covered in leaves.
    Until last year, when the leaves fell I just rode more...on my brakes.
    This past winter I bought a 2.35" Addix Soft Magic Mary for the front and 2.35" Speedgrip Nobby Nic for the rear, and they were fantastic. Heavier and "slower" combo than my regular tires, but I could ride much faster and more confidently with crappy trail conditions.

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    I've had good luck with two sets of Maxxis HR2's so far, but was thinking of giving the shorty or dhr a try next. The HR2 was good in mud and snow as well as rocks. Wet roots suck no matter what tire you use, unless you hit them square and not on a turn. They are especially fun when they are hidden under wet leaves on a fast turn. I ride Eastern PA mostly about 1-2 hours north of phila. Lots of mud, rocks, roots and short steep hills.

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    The Hans is good. The 2.4 DHR2 especially with the 3C on front is better but heavier. The SE5 is very good but expensive.


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    live in Central Ohio, but much of the same terrain issue...subbed for interest as well.

    People have been telling me to try the Duro Crux (29x3.5), but am still shopping
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    Magic Mary ft and Hans Dampf rear is primo in eastern PA.
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    Are these the new HD? Anyone have the HD sift front and Speedgrip rear?

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    For the most part, changing tires with smaller knobs (Racing Ralph, Ikons, etc) to larger knobs (Ardent, Ground Control, HD) seem to work with me in SE leaf-covered trails.
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    Continental Der Baron front and Mountain King rear. Tire pressure is critical, but they grip awesome to just about everything and roll surprisingly well.

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    I agree with a couple others here, Magic Mary up front and Nobby Nic on the back. Cant beat that combo (SW.Pa) Although I have another wheel set with the e-thirteen TRS tires and they work just as well, R compound up FR and + compound on the RR.

    But that MM just instills so much confidence probably my favorite FR tire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogeydog View Post
    Are these the new HD? Anyone have the HD sift front and Speedgrip rear?

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    I've only used the older snakeskin Pacestar version in back. I ran a SE4 last winter with good results but was nursing a trashed out knee so hard to say how good it was since I wasnt 100%

    Quote Originally Posted by gdb85 View Post
    I agree with a couple others here, Magic Mary up front and Nobby Nic on the back. Cant beat that combo (SW.Pa) Although I have another wheel set with the e-thirteen TRS tires and they work just as well, R compound up FR and + compound on the RR.

    But that MM just instills so much confidence probably my favorite FR tire.
    I have a Nobby nic here to try with the Magic mary. It seems to fall somewhere between the HD and MM for tread sizing. I was considering putting it on instead of a HD this season.
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    I like the Hans Dampf or Nobby Nic in the leaves and for a lot of other conditions as well. Tires with taller nobs and space between them will pierce the leaves and wet soil the best.

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    ^^^ yeah. Wet leaves will slide on wet leaves. Knobs that cut through them are best. IMO, narrower tires are better than wider tires on leaves.
    Do the math.

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    How about bontrager SE4 or SE5s, or Magic Mary? Especially for front?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmo View Post
    How about bontrager SE4 or SE5s, or Magic Mary? Especially for front?

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    I ran a SE5 ft and SE4 rear last year and just pulling them now. I don't think the SE5 is as good as the MM up front, the SE4 does pretty well though. Also they are ramped pretty good which IMHO might make them harder to punch through leaves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtrider76 View Post
    I ran a SE5 ft and SE4 rear last year and just pulling them now. I don't think the SE5 is as good as the MM up front, the SE4 does pretty well though. Also they are ramped pretty good which IMHO might make them harder to punch through leaves.
    What do you think about MM/HD or rock razor combo?

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    Surly Bud and Lou... But you need a bike that fits em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmo View Post
    What do you think about MM/HD or rock razor combo?

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    MM/HD is a great winter and fall combo!

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    Surly Bud and Lou... But you need a bike that fits em.
    I actually see very few fat bikes on single track in the winter. I know a pile of people that have them too.
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    I am a fan of the Bontrager XR4 which is essentially the same tread as the SE4.

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    Im trying 2.6 se5 front and 2.4 se4 rear. Right out of the gate the rear felt like a slick coming from a 2.3 se5 f/r but the se4 is much faster. Id say I lost some traction in the rear but the gain with less rolling resistance seems to be an even trade. I do find the rear almost feels to sit on top of the leafs. I might throw my 2.3 out back once everything drops and the frost gets a little heavier.


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    I've used the following.

    Specialized Ground Control front, Fast Trak rear - worked well, but the rear tire liked to slide out

    Specialized The Captain - One of my favorite year round tires. Loved these up front. Leaf cover wasn't any issue.

    Michelin Wild Grip'R and Wild Race'R. This was a decent combo. The Wild Grip'R bit through most leaf cover.

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    I am moving my HRII to the back and buying a DHRII 2.3 3c/exo for the front

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    Terrene Chunks are working well for me in the current fall conditions in New England.

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