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    Hadley Racing Hubs !!

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    I've had my Chris Kings since July 2004, still going strong.

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    I9's are just way too loud for me. You can't even carry on a conversation with someone on I9's when pedaling to the trailhead. And when riding a trail you always know where the I9 rider is. Way too loud.
    I have CK on Derby's 40mm wheels for all-mountain setup. Gonna build a XC setup with Light bike hoops and DT Swiss 240 hubs now. The all-mountains setup climbs a bit slower than I want.

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    Sounds like the I9 hubs have so much less drag that they have to coast more so the kings can keep up.
    Otherwise they wouldn't be such a nuisance.

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    Chris King or Industry 9 hubs ?????

    DT. Amazingly, people with DT hubs are also able to ride tech stuff.😜 I would like faster engagement, but my wheels are light and my hubs are strong. They're getting kind of loud though.


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    CK or i9 both are near perfect. You wont regret either. Buy either.

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    Rode both and nearly identical. Buy either. I9 is louder by small margin but also has slightly faster engagement. Yes it can be felt but not a deal breaker.

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    I've been running my true precision stealth hubs now for about a year and they kick ass. they are 100 trillion poe. Really smart mechanism in those, makes the rest look like tech from the dark ages, comparatively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trail_Blazer View Post
    Rode both and nearly identical. Buy either. I9 is louder by small margin but also has slightly faster engagement. Yes it can be felt but not a deal breaker.
    Agreed. Although I would say my I9s are MUCH louder than my Kings. Granted the Kings are relatively new and the I9s are about a year old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplemind View Post
    I never read anyone arguing with CK quality. However since their current design doesn't lend itself to XX1, a solution will not come soon enough for me.
    I like the Torch design on paper and if the quality is up to par with my current I9's, then that's probably one of the best current options.
    Thanks for all the great info everyone. I wanted to add a tag to this old thread that Chris King XD freehub upgrade kits our now available.

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    Should check out new Project 321 hubs, they improve upon the Torch shortcomings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pointerDixie214 View Post
    Agreed. Although I would say my I9s are MUCH louder than my Kings. Granted the Kings are relatively new and the I9s are about a year old.
    I live in Asheville, so I9's are everywhere, I went with CK to be different (actually, they came with the bike....)

    I think i9's are much louder than my CK's, but it could be the pitch difference and my ears going from years around large machinery.... The i9's are in the same pitch as a std hub, but a louder growl, the CK's are a higher pitch, more of a buzz:

    ANGRY BEE RINGTONE | Chris King Precision Components

    I scared one hiker as I (very politely) passed her, and coasted for a second. She jumped, looking for a rattler.
    My bike MCA kinda climbs like a billy-goat. WOO WOO!

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    That's what I went with. Still waiting for them to arrive.

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    My I9's have been great!
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    Chris King or Industry 9 hubs ?????

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    What's the difference between ISO & " cross lock? " hubs

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    Chris King or Industry 9 hubs ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by velo99 View Post
    What's the difference between ISO & " cross lock? " hubs
    WTF is a "cross lock" hub?
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    Was looking earlier today @ hubs. One type was cross or center something. Hence the question mark.

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    Do you mean center lock? That's a style of brake rotor.

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    Chris King or Industry 9 hubs ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by velo99 View Post
    Was looking earlier today @ hubs. One type was cross or center something. Hence the question mark.
    Then you weren't looking at Chris King or I9.
    Chris King ISO hubs are their standard disc hub. Standard as in 6-bolt rotor mount.
    Shimano has a proprietary rotor mount system that is called "centerlock," and a couple of manufacturers have licensed it (e.g., DT Swiss), but not Industry 9 or Chris King.
    You can adapt a CL hub to fit a standard 6-bolt rotor, but not the other way around.
    Quote Originally Posted by pvd
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    What shortcomings of the I9 Torch hubs did Project 321 address?
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    Should check out new Project 321 hubs, they improve upon the Torch shortcomings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy13 View Post
    What shortcomings of the I9 Torch hubs did Project 321 address?
    Don't know about Torch shortcomings, but the 321s come with Enduro angular contact bearings, a significant improvement over the typical cartridge balls that Torches come with.
    Quote Originally Posted by pvd
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    My trail Torch hubs now have had 3 revisions to correct the problems and they still have bearing problems, I think some of the problems could have been avoided.
    Project 321 new G2 rear hub has 2 angular contact bearings with longer life and better lateral load capacity. Better end caps to accurately load to adjust bearing preload for no play as bearings start to wear. I think being able to adjust preload is critical !! I also feel the Ano on Projsct 321 is the best out there no sun fade. Weight 274 grams not bad!! Hub in pict 23 months old still had nice rich color.
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    Thanks for the info. I agree the bearing issue w/ my torch hubs has been frustrating. I've said it before, I9 has great customer service, I just wish I didn't need to use it. The last design change w/ the new cassette body using a double row of bearings seems to have fixed my issues. Good to know that the 321 hubs have better bearings. Would the angular bearings fit in the I9 hubs/cassette bodies? TIA

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