basic Qs on rear Maxle Lite 142mm x 12mm

[PiroChu]

I'm new to the 142mm x 12mm standard, and - having seen this article about it - I still have some basic questions, please.

So, if the frame dropouts are for a 142mm x 12mm axle, does it necessarily mean that it'll accept a rear Maxle Lite 142mm x 12mm ? (I've never used Maxle before.)

Universal Cycles -- Rock Shox Maxle Frame Skewers

I've also heard "Shimano type" (vs Maxle) 142mm x 12mm. What are the differences in these types?

For Maxle, does the drive-side dropout needs threads (meaning, the Maxle threads into dropout)? For Shimano type, does the drive-side dropout have no thread (& the axle threads into end cap)?

Thanks,
- PiroChu

PS.
I'm thinking of '12 Transition Blindside and their Revolution 32 wheels for 142mm x 12mm. They said the frame comes with a "Shimano type" axle, but wanting to know if I can still use rear Maxle for it.

[Squash]

Yes to use the RS Maxle 142x12 axle the drive side dropout needs to be threaded. As for the Blindside's compatibility with the Maxle, your best source of information on this would be Transition. You can contact Transition at (360) 366-4960, or tech@transitionbikes.com. Since it comes with the Shimano axle, the frame well may not be compatible with the Maxle, as the shimano axle is simply a larger diameter and longer version of a standard 135x10 qr and doesn't require a threaded dropout to use. So call em, they'll tell you.

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[shiggy]

I'm new to the 142mm x 12mm standard, and - having seen this article about it - I still have some basic questions, please.

So, if the frame dropouts are for a 142mm x 12mm axle, does it necessarily mean that it'll accept a rear Maxle Lite 142mm x 12mm ? (I've never used Maxle before.)

Universal Cycles -- Rock Shox Maxle Frame Skewers

I've also heard "Shimano type" (vs Maxle) 142mm x 12mm. What are the differences in these types?

For Maxle, does the drive-side dropout needs threads (meaning, the Maxle threads into dropout)? For Shimano type, does the drive-side dropout have no thread (& the axle threads into end cap)?

Thanks,
- PiroChu

PS.
I'm thinking of '12 Transition Blindside and their Revolution 32 wheels for 142mm x 12mm. Supposedly it comes with "Shimano type" axle, but wanting to know if I can use rear Maxle for it.

Any frame with a 142/12 rear end should come with the correct axle.

There are several different non-interchangeable driveside specs.

The hubs all fit, except for Specialized's version which requires more dropout clearance.

[shiggy]

Yes to use the RS Maxle 142x12 axle the drive side dropout needs to be threaded. As for the Blindside's compatibility with the Maxle, your best source of information on this would be Transition. You can contact Transition at (360) 366-4960, or tech@transitionbikes.com. Since it comes with the Shimano axle, the frame well may not be compatible with the Maxle, as the shimano axle is simply a larger diameter and longer version of a standard 135x10 qr and doesn't require a threaded dropout to use. So call em, they'll tell you.

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Squash, I believe the Shimano fixing nut is designed to be inserted into the frame. As with the other designs, the frame itself is not threaded. They use a threaded insert and there are at least two different fitments for the insert (Syntace and Shimano) and different thread pitches. Not sure if the Maxle is the same as the Shimano or different yet.

[PiroChu]

Yes to use the RS Maxle 142x12 axle the drive side dropout needs to be threaded. ... Since it comes with the Shimano axle, the frame well may not be compatible with the Maxle, as the shimano axle is simply a larger diameter and longer version of a standard 135x10 qr and doesn't require a threaded dropout to use.

Thanks, guys, for your info.

As for '12 Blindside, just checked out online, and it doesn't look like the dropout is threaded, as below. So, I guess it must be for a "Shimano-style only" (no Maxle) 142mm x 12mm axle.

[shiggy]

Thanks, guys, for your info.

As for '12 Blindside, just checked out online, and it doesn't look like the dropout is threaded, as below. So, I guess it must be for a "Shimano-style only" (no Maxle) 142mm x 12mm axle.

Every 142/12 frame/dropout I have seen uses a threaded insert. You need to ask Transition what they use, and the axle/insert should be supplied with the frame.