Results 1 to 8 of 8
  1. #1
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    95

    Anybody Building Wheels with DT Swiss XM401 or XR331 Rims?

    Looks like the DT Swiss XM401 and XR331 are latest DT Swiss rims. I think the XR400 has been out for a while. The XM401 and XR331 do not have eyelets and make use of PHR Washers (Pro Head Reinforcement System) and "Squorx" pro head nipples (Squire-Torx). DT Swiss web site says the rims come with the Squorx Nipples and PHR Washers.

    Questions: Who sells these rims in the USA? Has anyone built up a set of wheels using these rims, Squorx nipples and PHR washers? What tool is needed for the Squorx nipples?

    Thanks

  2. #2
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Posts
    5
    Hi Falldog

    I tried to do the same. A lot frustration . It looks like these rims exists only in Europe and on DT Swiss website . Same applies to hubs. I saw 240's straight-pull with 6 bolts on DT Swiss website but I doubt that even exist in retail (I saw 240 only with center lock). I think retailers try to push out old inventory so do not expect the newest from DT Swiss to get any time soon. I have good DT Swiss 350 with straight pull
    with 36T ratchet system and DT competition spokes(original wheel-set on my bike) and tried replaced only rims with XR331 , maybe XM401.I just got tired of searching and decided to buy a new wheel-set or maybe some Chinese rims.

  3. #3
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    538
    One of my distributors has had the 401's listed on their site for a while, but don't have them in stock yet. Not sure when they will. Two other distributors don't have them listed yet.

    You can build with the squorx nipples using a regular spoke wrench. Good pic here: DT Swiss - SPLINE ONE Technology They also make t-handle wrenches to adjust the nipples through the rim: DT Swiss - Proline Tools

    The new rims look really good, and I think will make a great alternative to Stan's. Now if they'd just get them here....

  4. #4
    mtbpete
    Reputation: changingleaf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    344
    Sapim sells square-drive (or we can call them "squive") nipples and nipple washers that work the same as Squorx nipples and you can use them in any rim.

    The new rim from DT does look interesting. It's not available yet, but it is very similar to Stan's, American Classic and WTB rims.

  5. #5
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Posts
    476
    Reviving this thread . . .

    These rims are in stock at various dealers now, so using them is a viable option. Anyone built any wheels with these yet? I'm especially curious about tire installation experiences.

  6. #6
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    3
    Quote Originally Posted by InertiaMan View Post
    Reviving this thread . . .

    These rims are in stock at various dealers now, so using them is a viable option. Anyone built any wheels with these yet? I'm especially curious about tire installation experiences.
    I have these rims on a set of wheels I bought pre-built, so no experience with build quality (although DT rims always seem to build easily). The wheels are true and round with even tension though.

    As far as tire mounting, it was a breeze to set up tubeless. I put on some new Hans Damfs right out of the package, mounted w/soapy water on the bead and inflated--no sealant. They held air perfectly, so even with no sealant the bead was leak-free. This was great, since I could then just add sealant through the valve, no mess.

    I did use a compressor (since I have one anyway), but these would probably work with a floor pump. I tried briefly just to check, but the head on my Joe Blow Pro is a bit leaky and I just wasn't that interested since I had a compressor sitting right there.

  7. #7
    mtbpete
    Reputation: changingleaf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    344
    Thanks for your review. I have a couple questions.
    1. What tape was applied to these rims to make them tubeless?
    2. How easily did the tires mount on the rim? If they mounted very easily I'm thinking that they will be too loose to easily inflate with a floor pump. Do you recall if there was a lot of play in the tire on the rim once it was mounted?
    3. Do you recall at what air pressure did they fully seat into the rim on both sides?

    Thanks.

  8. #8
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    3
    1. The wheels actually came with a red DT Swiss rim strip and valve stems already installed. The tape was a red plastic-type variety.
    2. Tires were a bit of challenge to get on. Even with soapy water on the beads, I was using a tire lever by the time I got to about 10:00 and 2:00. I could have managed w/o a lever--maybe--but it would have been tough.
    3. Difficult to answer this one, since I was using a pretty high-volume compressor. I'd say by 15 psi it was seated, but honestly I think it's based more on volume that pressure. As I mentioned, I didn't invest too much time w/the floor pump, but it *almost* caught with my leaky-headed Joe Blow Pro. No promises, but I'm almost certain it would have worked with a functioning floor pump.

    Hope that helps!

Similar Threads

  1. dt swiss rims -vs- dt swiss hubs?
    By titus in forum Wheels and Tires
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 05-26-2013, 10:33 AM
  2. Replies: 5
    Last Post: 03-04-2013, 07:07 AM
  3. Industry Nine Wheels with DT Swiss XRC 330 Carbon Fiber Rims
    By iClique in forum Custom Builders & Other Manufacturers
    Replies: 23
    Last Post: 11-03-2011, 03:14 PM
  4. Finally Building my new DT-Swiss wheelset...
    By sexy_beast in forum Wheels and Tires
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 04-26-2011, 09:17 PM
  5. Stan's Flow rims vs. DT Swiss 5.1 rims
    By qbert2000 in forum Wheels and Tires
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 04-13-2011, 12:16 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •