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    Yeah, this is about what I'm finding. I started riding UST on Mavics a long time ago and I know I've paid for it with little choice on tires and some extra weight. I tried the Stan's when it was introduced and did not like it at all, but I realize it has become almost flawless. My dilemma is that wheels are sooooooo expensive and I dont want to run stans on a UST wheelset because it would be heavier than it has to be and I dont want to risk not liking the Stan's rims. I guess I need to just pick one and go with it, Thanks for all the advice. BTW, Specialized makes one that comes in around 675 claimed.

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    FWIW, I don't think I've ever heard/read of someone not liking Stan's rims (though now that I've said that, I'm sure you'll cut in here...) I have a pair of Flows, and I can't eff them up no matter how hard I try
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDiamond
    BTW, Specialized makes one that comes in around 675 claimed.
    Uh... then go w/that.
    When you get it, weigh it and post up.

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    semi-slicks

    For those of you that like to mount semi-slicks from time to time, my 2 Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 2" tires weigh 615, listed at 690, I believe. I had to send one back that was 605.

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    I'd go with some maxxis ignitor 2.1, they are perfect width, light!, and a good all around tire

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    I second the ignitor! I love it more than the Nevegals

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    Hey.

    I just took a pair of Bonty XR1 (1.9) Team Editions off a mates SF100and befoe putting them on my Niner weighed them.
    481g
    491g

    Pretty good consistency in weight.

    Mounted them tubeless on 355rims with no bother, first time (used a compressor and a cup of milk).

    Lets see how long they last!

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    Quote Originally Posted by desertking
    so glad I'm not a WW anymore
    I hear ya desertking. The heavier the tire the faster I am overall.

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    Can anyone tell me how wide is Bonty XR1 . Is it true 1.9 ?

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    Bontrager "Team" Issue 2.35 FR-3 & Ardent 2.4.

    Note that the team issue I have is 160 grams more than advertised...will be returning tire and have replaced with another one as something must be up (maybe its a mislabled Expert version?)




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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    Bontrager "Team" Issue 2.35 FR-3 & Ardent 2.4.

    Note that the team issue I have is 160 grams more than advertised...will be returning tire and have replaced with another one as something must be up (maybe its a mislabled Expert version?)
    I didn't include the Bonty cuz it seems like it might be an outlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prem
    Can anyone tell me how wide is Bonty XR1 . Is it true 1.9 ?
    I measured 1.81" on the casing, on a ZTR355 rim @ 30 psi. Width including side knobs is close to 1.9".

    The tire is not very tall, which makes total volume kind of small. I really like the resulting cornering feel, it kind of makes your bike a bit more agile. Offcourse, the low volume puts it at risk on courses with many roots or rocks. You'd have to run it at a higher pressure to be safe, which robs it of a lot of comfort and some grip. On courses without deep mud, deep sand, rocks or lots of roots, this tire rocks.

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    JeroenK: Thanks for the answer. I am looking for lower volume tire for my new project so it fits the bill.

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    maxxis igniter 29X2.1 = 590g and 600g - going on rip nine with stans 29er 355

    maxxis aspen 29X2.1 = 490g and 500g - going on one 9 with stans 29er race wheels
    Last edited by suvowner; 11-06-2009 at 08:13 PM.

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    maxxis aspen

    2 maxxis aspens-510g each

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    Just bought a pair of Maxxis Ignitors- 564 and 592g

    This is an awesome thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    Weighed this week without packaging:

    Specialized Captain Control 2.2 750gm
    Geax Saguaro TNT 2.2 800gm
    Just weighed:

    Geax Saguaro TNT 2.2: 787.37 g ...and this is dead on!

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    Dugast Rhino XL 45 mm 532 gr
    Challenge proto 50 mm 652 gr
    Next Challenge under 600
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    Stans No Tubes Raven 2.0=491grams
    Raven 2.2=551grams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentfoe
    Stans No Tubes Raven 2.0=491grams
    Raven 2.2=551grams
    Silentfoe, please put some real tires on your Sultan as you are an embarassment to the rest of us with our 30 lb+ versions

    .........NoisyFo

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    Quote Originally Posted by petit napoleon
    Dugast Rhino XL 45 mm 532 gr
    Challenge proto 50 mm 652 gr
    Next Challenge under 600
    Please link us to pics and reviews!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    Silentfoe, please put some real tires on your Sultan as you are an embarassment to the rest of us with our 30 lb+ versions

    .........NoisyFo
    HA! Yeah, I know. I actually love running the Racing Ralphs in 2.25 but I put on the Ravens for training over the winter since they are almost slicks and I can use them on the road without worrying about wearing them out.

    Honestly I want another wheelset (beefier) so I can run bigger tires on my AM days. I have found that the Reba Team doesn't have a ton of tire clearance though.

    Thanks for the ribbing.

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    Bontrager 29-3 Team issue 2.25 690
    Michelin X/C at 685 679

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    sorry that 29-3 is the TLR front tread version

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    Great post. Can anyone explain the difference between the Maxxis Ignitor 29 and Ignitor 29 K?
    How would I know what to look for as it seems the "K" is substantially lighter.

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    "K" stands for Kevlar. This means the tire has a folding bead. You can identify it on the LBS shelf by the fact that it comes folded up. I was not aware that the Ignitor came in anything other than folding bead.

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    In photo old Challenge proto, with Continetal/Dugast "battistrada"
    New Challenge under 600 grams, semislisk (no photo, i can't....in jenuary i can)
    Dugast....no photo, sorry
    Super tubolar 60 mm FMB 800 grams (Racing Ralph)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentfoe
    "K" stands for Kevlar. This means the tire has a folding bead. You can identify it on the LBS shelf by the fact that it comes folded up. I was not aware that the Ignitor came in anything other than folding bead.
    I do not think the wire bead is sold after market, but it is spec'd on most Kona 29er bikes. I've seen it on the Redline Flight from a couple years back.
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    Bontrager 29-0: 442 grams

    This tire is non-TLR, with a claimed size of 1.9. No ride report yet.

    Edit: also, claimed weight is 410 grams.

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    Bontrager 29-0: 442 grams
    KPD - what do you think about this tire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prem
    KPD - what do you think about this tire?
    I only have one ride on it, but here are my first impressions:
    Small. It makes a 2.0 Stan's Raven look huge, and the ride feels kind of harsh even at lower pressures.
    Surprisingly grippy. Considering how little rubber is used for knobs, it seemed to bite nicely on corners.

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    Thanks kpd. I've just ordered it for my monsterfuncross project.

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    Speaking of monsterfun cross, I set my Specialized tricross up with furious freds! what an awesome combo. light(358gr) and makes gravel roads too fun!

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    BTW my two furious freds weight 340 and 342g. On dt swiss road wheelset they are 46mm wide. Can't wait to compare them with bontrager 29-0. Hope that they are only slightly heavier but less fragile

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    wow, that's light, how's traction?

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    Traction is not bad considering that it is fast race tire. Due to its volume and weight it is nice option for some cyclocross bikes. Excellent for easy trails, gravel roads. In my area the most interesting trails are like in the picture. When it is dry furoius fred has more grip than enough.
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    beautiful bike, what is it?

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    salsa chili con crosso - sorry for non 29er content

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    cross with 29'r tires in my book is a 29'r .ha

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    Replaced two

    Bontrager XDX 2.1 at 712g & 725g

    with two

    Crossmark 2.1 at 592g & 612g

    and got better performance here in the NE at 1/2 lb less.

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    Geax Suguaro UST 2.2+ 940 gr. and 950 gr. Mama mia! Putain de m%$rde! Holy rubber! Can I downhill these babies?!!?

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    I'd a said the same thing if I never tried them. I was amazed at how well The Raven worked on the rocky, rooted trails of eastern PA. Not great in the muck, naturally but if trails are dry....superb. I'm running a Maxxis Ignitor 2.1 on the rear for the winter and will be going to The Raven in the spring.

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    Purgatory

    I just picked up a pair of Specialized Purgatory Control 2-Bliss 2.4's.
    They came in at 785 and 800.
    Not bad for a full knob tire, can't wait to ride em'!

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    Michelin XC AT Tire - 29 x 2.0 690,695

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    WTB Wolverine 2.2 race 820g
    Kenda Nevegal 800g
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    Conti Mountain King 2.4"; 749 gr.
    Kenda Karma 1.9"; 517 gr.
    Michelin XC AT 2.0";695 gr.

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    CST Caballero WIre Bead 2.25 960gr

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    Racing Ralph 2.4

    I just got a 2.4 RR for the front of my singlespeed.

    weight; 600 grams

    If it fits the rear of the Kona Unit frame, I'll probably use another 2.4 on the rear instead of the 2.25 RR I was planning on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kpd
    Bontrager 29-0: 442 grams

    This tire is non-TLR, with a claimed size of 1.9. No ride report yet.

    Edit: also, claimed weight is 410 grams.
    Update: I liked it enough to order another, which weighed 406 grams-- nice!

    At the moment this is my go-to tire for racing cyclocross on my 29er, and it would probably be a good choice for smooth, non-rocky XC courses.

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    By somebody's mistake I've received bontrager xr 1 not 29-0. Then it was even suggested that it is a newer version of 29-0 (british humor or what). They weight 500 and 505g.

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