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    yup... still updating. as long as i keep getting e-mails i'll keep plugging data in.

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    To my mind, this should be a sticky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweeney
    ... if we had a listing of 29er tire weights.
    This is a re-post but they don't seem to have made it into the spreadsheet.

    Maxxis Ignitor K 29x2.1 (older version)- 1@ 594g
    Kenda Karma 29x2.2 - 2@ 794, 804g
    Kenda Small Block 8 29x2.1 - 2@ 610, 604g
    Maxxis Crossmark K 29x2.1 - 2@ 594, 598g

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    Quote Originally Posted by KLF
    This is a re-post but they don't seem to have made it into the spreadsheet.

    Maxxis Ignitor K 29x2.1 (older version)- 1@ 594g
    Kenda Karma 29x2.2 - 2@ 794, 804g
    Kenda Small Block 8 29x2.1 - 2@ 610, 604g
    Maxxis Crossmark K 29x2.1 - 2@ 594, 598g
    email it or PM it to Melting Feather.

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    Done. The first time your post must have threaded the needle between when I was building the spreadsheet and when I posted it (it was right before I posted it).
    I'm subscribed to the thread, so I should get e-mails everytime someone posts here.

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    Someone should start a weight-weenies style wiki page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Dunlop
    Someone should start a weight-weenies style wiki page.
    why don't you do it?

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    You could call it "Dunlop Tire Weenie Wiki".
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    I can throw down some of the new Bontrager's...

    XR1 Team Issue 1.9" 480g
    29-3 Team Issue 2.0" 450g
    29-0 Team Issue 1.9" 412g

    These have been the popular ones with the team. All of them are tube type tires, but set up tubless very well with Stan's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattomoto
    XR1 Team Issue 1.9" 480g
    29-3 Team Issue 2.0" 450g
    29-0 Team Issue 1.9" 412g

    These have been the popular ones with the team. All of them are tube type tires, but set up tubless very well with Stan's.

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    never heard of a 29-0 and it ain't on bonty's website. new stuff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather
    why don't you do it?
    Becuase I have the technical skills of a stoned afghani child.

    Seriously though, half of the questions I read are 'how much does this weigh?' or 'what conditions are these tyres good for?' when the question has already been asked a thousand times before. Then it gets into an off topic flame war because someone used British English and some retarded American with nothing better to do thinks they are being clever by pointing this out, and 26 pages later no one can agree if someone's mother was fat or not, and then some retro-grouch chimes in about how drop bars are great and nothing built after 1984 has been worth the trouble. Then some douchbag from Germany spends hours trying to sell his homemade vapourware. Most of the time I just want simple information, not an argument. Quite frankly I don't give a crap what some armchair expert with 3 billion posts thinks about Y and Z when I asked about X.

    Also, there isn't a good, current list of part weights online anymore.

    Weight weenies is OK, but it would be nice to get some info about, say, what conditions certain tyres are good in, what fork crowns clear what frames etc...

    If anyone wants to walk me through how to do something, then I would be willing to do the fiddling etc.

    my $0.02

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Dunlop
    Becuase I have the technical skills of a stoned afghani child.

    Seriously though, half of the questions I read are 'how much does this weigh?' or 'what conditions are these tyres good for?' when the question has already been asked a thousand times before. Then it gets into an off topic flame war because someone used British English and some retarded American with nothing better to do thinks they are being clever by pointing this out, and 26 pages later no one can agree if someone's mother was fat or not, and then some retro-grouch chimes in about how drop bars are great and nothing built after 1984 has been worth the trouble. Then some douchbag from Germany spends hours trying to sell his homemade vapourware. Most of the time I just want simple information, not an argument. Quite frankly I don't give a crap what some armchair expert with 3 billion posts thinks about Y and Z when I asked about X.

    Also, there isn't a good, current list of part weights online anymore.

    Weight weenies is OK, but it would be nice to get some info about, say, what conditions certain tyres are good in, what fork crowns clear what frames etc...

    If anyone wants to walk me through how to do something, then I would be willing to do the fiddling etc.

    my $0.02
    First, you've described pretty much every internet forum there is. People don't do research because it's easier to post asking a question that was asked and answered two days prior than to search for a whole minute. Like you, they think having someone else do the work is a better approach.
    Sounds like you need to whiff reality and get over it or allocate less of your time to internet forums.
    Your cute little cross-section of forum contributors is about as dumb as it gets... you managed to condense 1000 posts worth of retarded into 150 words. Xenophobic stereotypes might get you points with fellow subjects of the crown, but they certainly don't put me in a mood to 'walk you through' anything but the exit door.
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    I'm riding the Schwalbe Furious Fred 29x2.0 for two weeks

    319 grams and 354 grams

    Real size is not 2.0 but rather 1.8. They are no bigger than my Bontrager Jones XR 1.8.

    HELLA fast on hardpack, gravel, road, roots and grass. Avoid rocks or any terrain that can cause pinch flat because they are thin like road tires (actually I'd call them "high volume road tires with small knobs". Acceleration is INSANE compare to any other tires Rolling resistance is.... well it's like there is none . Increased my cruising speed by 3 mph.

    Need more speed. GET THEM !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Dunlop
    when the question has already been asked a thousand times before. Then it gets into an off topic flame war because someone used British English and some retarded American with nothing better to do thinks they are being clever by pointing this out, and 26 pages later no one can agree if someone's mother was fat or not, and then some retro-grouch chimes in about how drop bars are great and nothing built after 1984 has been worth the trouble. Then some douchbag from Germany spends hours trying to sell his homemade vapourware. Most of the time I just want simple information, not an argument. Quite frankly I don't give a crap what some armchair expert with 3 billion posts thinks about Y and Z when I asked about X.
    Came so close to spittin' my morning coffee on the computer screen!
    Thanks for the great laugh, so, so true...........
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    I added a cross link to this thread on the 29'er FAQs, 5th post down, currently.

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    Today I picked up my set of Bontrager FR3 tires, "Team" version (ie, 120 TPI version) and WOW, while i honestly dont mind a heavy tire, these are more than I would have preferred anyway @ 1038 grams! I only weighed one in fear the second would have confirmed the weight...LOL.

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    Great thread. Swapped my 29er WTB Exiwolf 2.3 to Maxxis Crossmarks 2.1, aided by information on this forum = 500-ish grams saving on weight. Best $/kg saving made yet.

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    thanks for the links it was just what I was looking for

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    Stans Raven 2.0 weighed in at 486g/ 2.2 at 550g.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LateBrakeU2
    Perhaps a bit off topic- does anyone know off hand if Crows work for clydes? I'm 230lbs currentely running wtb nano r's on arches and do mostly hard pack fire trail climbs. Heard they work best in that element .
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    I was running them front and rear at first. Crashed on a loose rocky downhill and decided it is not the best in the front. I still run it in the rear but run a Karma in front. I still get good acceleration but have much better control.

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    nice one

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    EXTREMELY NICE JOB. SHOUTING for encouragement!!!
    Keep it up
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    Looks like you need WTB Prowler data I have SL's that came on my Marin...I'll go pull em' and weigh em'...

    EDIT:

    WTB Prowler SL 2.10
    860 and 825
    Advertised is 726

    Pretty big difference...no wonder my bike feels so "Porky"
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusDelirious
    Looks like you need WTB Prowler data I have SL's that came on my Marin...I'll go pull em' and weigh em'...

    EDIT:

    WTB Prowler SL 2.10
    860 and 825
    Advertised is 726

    Pretty big difference...no wonder my bike feels so "Porky"
    Must be OEM wire bead? My kevlar beads were 630ish.
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    a few for the mean sample,
    wtb exiwolf 2.1 fold 594g
    wtb exiwolf 2.3 fold 794g
    the crossmarks look nice, as do the RR which i love on my 26"

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    furious freds 334g and 345g

    took them out on rocky, shale and roots trail they held up fine. traction was a problem at higher psi, hitting the rim was a problem at lower psi. they are very narrow and work fastest on grassy surfaces at med high psi or very high psi on the street. otherwise save your money.
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    Converted FOX 36 owners

    Do you have the contact info for BCD? Thinkin about havin one done.

    THX!

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    Am I seeing what I am seeing.

    How does the igniter keep coming in lighter than the crossmark?

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    Kenda Small Block 8 @ 605g ~ Advertised @ 575 +/-30

    So of course mine came in right at the top Well at least it's within tolerance which is okay by me...replacing an 860g WTB Prowler SL on the back.

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    Specialized Captain S-Works 2Bliss 2.0 620g, 597g
    Specialized Fast Trak 2.0 528g, 531g, 562g
    Maxxis Crossmark 2.1 613g
    WTB Weirwolf LT 2.55 782g, 778g

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlienSP
    Specialized Captain S-Works 2Bliss 2.0 620g, 597g
    Specialized Fast Trak 2.0 528g, 531g, 562g
    Maxxis Crossmark 2.1 613g
    WTB Weirwolf LT 2.55 782g, 778g
    The Fast Trak on my previous post was LK S-Works 2Bliss. There are many variations of the same model by Specialized and they have left certain weights off their website this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlienSP
    The Fast Trak on my previous post was LK S-Works 2Bliss. There are many variations of the same model by Specialized and they have left certain weights off their website this year.
    Thanks. I was able to guess that one based on the fact that it is one of the only tires Specialized does post a weight for. A post with complete information on the tire model is a rarity. I do my best to figure it out and keep the spreadsheet reasonable, but I can't always do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Menzo
    I'm riding the Schwalbe Furious Fred 29x2.0 for two weeks

    319 grams and 354 grams

    Real size is not 2.0 but rather 1.8. They are no bigger than my Bontrager Jones XR 1.8.

    HELLA fast on hardpack, gravel, road, roots and grass. Avoid rocks or any terrain that can cause pinch flat because they are thin like road tires (actually I'd call them "high volume road tires with small knobs". Acceleration is INSANE compare to any other tires Rolling resistance is.... well it's like there is none . Increased my cruising speed by 3 mph.

    Need more speed. GET THEM !!!!
    I'm curious, You say it increased your cruising speed but if this was by a speedometer with magnetic imput would it not be affected by the somewhat smaller wheel diameter? If you are using a garmin gps then as Rosanne Roseannadanna would say, "nevermind"!

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    I'm curious, You say it increased your cruising speed but if this was by a speedometer with magnetic imput would it not be affected by the somewhat smaller wheel diameter?
    I use a wireless bike computer and every time I change the tires I adjust the wheel size in the computer. For example, the wheel circumference is 220 cm with Bontrager 1.8 but 226 cm with Maxxis ignitor 2.1 (just examples I don't remember the real numbers) so if I would ride a 26er the circumference could be 200 cm per rotation so the speed is always the same no matter the wheel size.

    I also use a heart rate monitor. When I say increase my cruising speed I mean that I rode the same loop several times with different tires and compared the heartbeats in different sections. At the same heartbeats I'm going faster with the Furious Fred than other tires or from another point of view at the same speed around the loop, my heartbeats are lower because the effort to turn the wheels is smaller.

    I wish I own a power tap to get more accurate numbers...

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    Kenda Small Block 8 29x2.1 - 2@ 575g
    Crow 29x2.0 @ 437g
    Raven 29x2.0 @ 559g
    Conti Raceking non blackchilli 29x2.2 @ 657g,649g

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    Conti Mountain King 29 x 2.2 @ 641g
    Maxxis Crossmark 29 x 2.1 @613g
    Bontrager XDX 29 x 2.1 @708g

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    anyone know the weight of the Continental Mountain King 29x2.4

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    Quote Originally Posted by scsamoyan
    anyone know the weight of the Continental Mountain King 29x2.4
    mtbtires.com_tire-specs

    Spreadsheet for this thread

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    sweet!! thanks!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceBrown
    Not to be a downer back at you, but this question is getting about as tiresome as is possible on every thread that the Raven or Crow is mentioned. All I can say is go buy a Crow, a Raven, a Vulpine, a Furious Fred or any other semi-slick XC race tire and give 'em a go. Then get back to us on what you discovered and found by running them. By the way, there are more tires in this category for 29"ers coming.

    Plenty of guys riding and racing semi-slick tires in the 26" and the 29" platforms who would beg to differ with your opinion as to how they could be considered a mountain bike tire.

    Toss a leg over a pair, take 'em out on your trails and get back to us. That's really the only way to answer the question.

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    second this post......there traction is very suprisingly good and amazingly supple......great for hard tail

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    More Schwalbe Racing Ralph 29" 2.25 evo sidewalls. 568 & 576 grams a piece.

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    Swapped out tires today and made a world of difference.

    Here's what my scale tells me:

    Kenda Nevegals 2.2 wire bead: 925 grams
    Kenda Karmas 1.9 folding: 553 grams

    Dropped 2 lbs on my bike and it was noticably different on today's ride + the narrower width tightened up the sterring a bit. Those Nevegals were made for tanks.

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    Specialized Captain S-Works 2Bliss 2.0 581g
    Specialized Fast Trak S-Works 2Bliss 2.0 530g
    Specialized Captain Control 2Bliss 2.2 702g (thicker sidewalls than SWorks)

    Specialized has returned to publishing the weights again on the their website. Seems to fall within the actual numbers that I've weighed.

    Also general tire mfg info:
    http://mind42.com/pub/mindmap?mid=2e...9-edfff4b6be95

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    Bontrager 29-3 (TLR, 2.25", front-specific tread): 732g

    And so worth it. Cornering traction is phenomenal, and the sidewalls feel very burly. I do wish they would make a version of this tire with thinner, more pliable sidewalls for less rocky areas though.

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    Any recommendations for a 29" UST taht doesn't weigh a ton? Real UST, not tubeless ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDiamond
    Any recommendations for a 29" UST taht doesn't weigh a ton? Real UST, not tubeless ready.
    You're in luck! None of the UST tires weighs a ton! So many to choose from!
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    Thats funny. Anyone with a serious reply that contains some useful information?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDiamond
    Any recommendations for a 29" UST taht doesn't weigh a ton? Real UST, not tubeless ready.
    ha! no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDiamond
    Thats funny. Anyone with a serious reply that contains some useful information?
    Just havin' some fun. UST tires weigh a lot because of the amount of material in them. Remember that UST is just Mavic's proprietary tubeless brand and was originally designed to run w/out sealant. Since most people running tubeless want the benefits of sealant (even in UST tires), more manufacturers are coming out with tubeless designs, though mostly designed to work with sealant, so much lighter than UST. Since you said you don't want 'tubeless ready', do you only want certified UST (licensed by Mavic to have 'UST' printed on them)?
    Mavic has done a fantastic job of marketing to get people to think that UST is the only 'real' tubeless tire... for a while it was, but many are catching up. I ride regular tires tubeless and it works incredibly well for me, but ain't for everyone (obviously).
    I think UST will have a hard time in the 29er platform because they are ridiculously heavy. They may even have a hard time competing with 'tubeless ready' tires on 26" because of the advent of sealant and the weight factor.
    There aren't too many UST 29er tires to start with, and I don't know of one that is under about 750g. Heck, even 26" UST tires w/some tread on them push 900(+)g!!
    I think only Geax, Michelin, and Hutchinson are licensed for UST and AFAIK Geax is the only mfr to actually make and market them... about four models. So, pick the lightest out of those... not a hard choice, I think you're looking at a Barro Race, which is a 2.0 XC tire w/out a ton of tread, and still weighs in at 740g (claimed).
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    Stan's no tubes Raven 29 2.2 >>525 grams

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDiamond
    Any recommendations for a 29" UST taht doesn't weigh a ton? Real UST, not tubeless ready.
    What meltingfeather says. There are only two or three 29er UST tires. Hutchinson, Geax, not sure about Michelin. They will be heavy. I have not used one, never will. The conversions and TLR work too well and I get 20+ tires to choose from and not 2. The only UST rims are the Mavic Crossmax 29er. Pretty limited choice from a company with a vested interest in keeping it that way.
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    Yeah, this is about what I'm finding. I started riding UST on Mavics a long time ago and I know I've paid for it with little choice on tires and some extra weight. I tried the Stan's when it was introduced and did not like it at all, but I realize it has become almost flawless. My dilemma is that wheels are sooooooo expensive and I dont want to run stans on a UST wheelset because it would be heavier than it has to be and I dont want to risk not liking the Stan's rims. I guess I need to just pick one and go with it, Thanks for all the advice. BTW, Specialized makes one that comes in around 675 claimed.

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    FWIW, I don't think I've ever heard/read of someone not liking Stan's rims (though now that I've said that, I'm sure you'll cut in here...) I have a pair of Flows, and I can't eff them up no matter how hard I try
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDiamond
    BTW, Specialized makes one that comes in around 675 claimed.
    Uh... then go w/that.
    When you get it, weigh it and post up.

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    semi-slicks

    For those of you that like to mount semi-slicks from time to time, my 2 Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 2" tires weigh 615, listed at 690, I believe. I had to send one back that was 605.

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    I'd go with some maxxis ignitor 2.1, they are perfect width, light!, and a good all around tire

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    I second the ignitor! I love it more than the Nevegals

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    Hey.

    I just took a pair of Bonty XR1 (1.9) Team Editions off a mates SF100and befoe putting them on my Niner weighed them.
    481g
    491g

    Pretty good consistency in weight.

    Mounted them tubeless on 355rims with no bother, first time (used a compressor and a cup of milk).

    Lets see how long they last!

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    Quote Originally Posted by desertking
    so glad I'm not a WW anymore
    I hear ya desertking. The heavier the tire the faster I am overall.

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    Can anyone tell me how wide is Bonty XR1 . Is it true 1.9 ?

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    Bontrager "Team" Issue 2.35 FR-3 & Ardent 2.4.

    Note that the team issue I have is 160 grams more than advertised...will be returning tire and have replaced with another one as something must be up (maybe its a mislabled Expert version?)




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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    Bontrager "Team" Issue 2.35 FR-3 & Ardent 2.4.

    Note that the team issue I have is 160 grams more than advertised...will be returning tire and have replaced with another one as something must be up (maybe its a mislabled Expert version?)
    I didn't include the Bonty cuz it seems like it might be an outlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prem
    Can anyone tell me how wide is Bonty XR1 . Is it true 1.9 ?
    I measured 1.81" on the casing, on a ZTR355 rim @ 30 psi. Width including side knobs is close to 1.9".

    The tire is not very tall, which makes total volume kind of small. I really like the resulting cornering feel, it kind of makes your bike a bit more agile. Offcourse, the low volume puts it at risk on courses with many roots or rocks. You'd have to run it at a higher pressure to be safe, which robs it of a lot of comfort and some grip. On courses without deep mud, deep sand, rocks or lots of roots, this tire rocks.

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    JeroenK: Thanks for the answer. I am looking for lower volume tire for my new project so it fits the bill.

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    maxxis igniter 29X2.1 = 590g and 600g - going on rip nine with stans 29er 355

    maxxis aspen 29X2.1 = 490g and 500g - going on one 9 with stans 29er race wheels
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    maxxis aspen

    2 maxxis aspens-510g each

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    Just bought a pair of Maxxis Ignitors- 564 and 592g

    This is an awesome thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    Weighed this week without packaging:

    Specialized Captain Control 2.2 750gm
    Geax Saguaro TNT 2.2 800gm
    Just weighed:

    Geax Saguaro TNT 2.2: 787.37 g ...and this is dead on!

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    Dugast Rhino XL 45 mm 532 gr
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    Stans No Tubes Raven 2.0=491grams
    Raven 2.2=551grams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentfoe
    Stans No Tubes Raven 2.0=491grams
    Raven 2.2=551grams
    Silentfoe, please put some real tires on your Sultan as you are an embarassment to the rest of us with our 30 lb+ versions

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    Quote Originally Posted by petit napoleon
    Dugast Rhino XL 45 mm 532 gr
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    Please link us to pics and reviews!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    Silentfoe, please put some real tires on your Sultan as you are an embarassment to the rest of us with our 30 lb+ versions

    .........NoisyFo
    HA! Yeah, I know. I actually love running the Racing Ralphs in 2.25 but I put on the Ravens for training over the winter since they are almost slicks and I can use them on the road without worrying about wearing them out.

    Honestly I want another wheelset (beefier) so I can run bigger tires on my AM days. I have found that the Reba Team doesn't have a ton of tire clearance though.

    Thanks for the ribbing.

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    Bontrager 29-3 Team issue 2.25 690
    Michelin X/C at 685 679

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    sorry that 29-3 is the TLR front tread version

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    Great post. Can anyone explain the difference between the Maxxis Ignitor 29 and Ignitor 29 K?
    How would I know what to look for as it seems the "K" is substantially lighter.

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    "K" stands for Kevlar. This means the tire has a folding bead. You can identify it on the LBS shelf by the fact that it comes folded up. I was not aware that the Ignitor came in anything other than folding bead.

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    In photo old Challenge proto, with Continetal/Dugast "battistrada"
    New Challenge under 600 grams, semislisk (no photo, i can't....in jenuary i can)
    Dugast....no photo, sorry
    Super tubolar 60 mm FMB 800 grams (Racing Ralph)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentfoe
    "K" stands for Kevlar. This means the tire has a folding bead. You can identify it on the LBS shelf by the fact that it comes folded up. I was not aware that the Ignitor came in anything other than folding bead.
    I do not think the wire bead is sold after market, but it is spec'd on most Kona 29er bikes. I've seen it on the Redline Flight from a couple years back.
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    Bontrager 29-0: 442 grams

    This tire is non-TLR, with a claimed size of 1.9. No ride report yet.

    Edit: also, claimed weight is 410 grams.

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    Bontrager 29-0: 442 grams
    KPD - what do you think about this tire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prem
    KPD - what do you think about this tire?
    I only have one ride on it, but here are my first impressions:
    Small. It makes a 2.0 Stan's Raven look huge, and the ride feels kind of harsh even at lower pressures.
    Surprisingly grippy. Considering how little rubber is used for knobs, it seemed to bite nicely on corners.

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    Thanks kpd. I've just ordered it for my monsterfuncross project.

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    Speaking of monsterfun cross, I set my Specialized tricross up with furious freds! what an awesome combo. light(358gr) and makes gravel roads too fun!

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    BTW my two furious freds weight 340 and 342g. On dt swiss road wheelset they are 46mm wide. Can't wait to compare them with bontrager 29-0. Hope that they are only slightly heavier but less fragile

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    wow, that's light, how's traction?

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    Traction is not bad considering that it is fast race tire. Due to its volume and weight it is nice option for some cyclocross bikes. Excellent for easy trails, gravel roads. In my area the most interesting trails are like in the picture. When it is dry furoius fred has more grip than enough.
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    beautiful bike, what is it?

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    salsa chili con crosso - sorry for non 29er content

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    cross with 29'r tires in my book is a 29'r .ha

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    Replaced two

    Bontrager XDX 2.1 at 712g & 725g

    with two

    Crossmark 2.1 at 592g & 612g

    and got better performance here in the NE at 1/2 lb less.

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    Geax Suguaro UST 2.2+ 940 gr. and 950 gr. Mama mia! Putain de m%$rde! Holy rubber! Can I downhill these babies?!!?

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    I'd a said the same thing if I never tried them. I was amazed at how well The Raven worked on the rocky, rooted trails of eastern PA. Not great in the muck, naturally but if trails are dry....superb. I'm running a Maxxis Ignitor 2.1 on the rear for the winter and will be going to The Raven in the spring.

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    Purgatory

    I just picked up a pair of Specialized Purgatory Control 2-Bliss 2.4's.
    They came in at 785 and 800.
    Not bad for a full knob tire, can't wait to ride em'!

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    Michelin XC AT Tire - 29 x 2.0 690,695

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    CST Caballero WIre Bead 2.25 960gr

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    Racing Ralph 2.4

    I just got a 2.4 RR for the front of my singlespeed.

    weight; 600 grams

    If it fits the rear of the Kona Unit frame, I'll probably use another 2.4 on the rear instead of the 2.25 RR I was planning on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kpd
    Bontrager 29-0: 442 grams

    This tire is non-TLR, with a claimed size of 1.9. No ride report yet.

    Edit: also, claimed weight is 410 grams.
    Update: I liked it enough to order another, which weighed 406 grams-- nice!

    At the moment this is my go-to tire for racing cyclocross on my 29er, and it would probably be a good choice for smooth, non-rocky XC courses.

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    By somebody's mistake I've received bontrager xr 1 not 29-0. Then it was even suggested that it is a newer version of 29-0 (british humor or what). They weight 500 and 505g.

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