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    Wide in front. Narrow in back?

    I'm seriously considering purchasing a pair of these "Nancy" wheels. I have a question though: I like riding a narrower profile tire in back, say 1.95, and wider up front. Would it make sense to order a mismatched pair, i.e. a wider (23mm internal) upfront and a narrower (21mm) rear? Or will I burp air under hard cornering? If I go wide on both, then what's the narrowest tire profile I'll be able to run for my back tire?

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    as for a 1.95 tire on the wider rim, i have no experience with that as i cant imagine ever wanting a tire that small, did find this chart though fwiw, and it looks to be ok but who knows how it will handle
    dont see any problem with mismatching them either if thats what youd prefer

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    I'm using a 2.0 Spesh Captain on the wide rim as my rear wheel and like it. It gives a nice profile.
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    well, this guy is running 700x28 road tires on his 29er wide rims

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    Quote Originally Posted by macming View Post
    Mine! I had the Bontrager Rythem strip mounted initially, but it was next to impossible to mount a tire. So I ended up doing just a layer of yellow tape, and so far so good.

    The 'UST lip' on the Rythem strip is also pretty far from the tire bead. So by the time it catches, I think the tire would've already burped. I never run too low of a pressure, so I'll see how the yellow tape works.



    I took these rims out for their first trail ride. They were just AWESOME! I was able to climb easier with them, and the nice round tire profile was super nice in terms of good traction.

    Overall, I'm very impressed with their quality (not perfect, but for the $$). My Nomad carbon now has the right amount of weight/strength balance

    Quick ride video from yesterday

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    I didn't end up using my Bontrager strips, if anyone wants to buy the pair. They took me a while to hunt down.

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    UST compatible?

    I've scoured this and the 29er Chinese thread but can't find the answer to this question:

    Has anyone mounted a UST tire (not tubeless ready, but actual UST) to the AM (34mm internal) version of these rims? From the rim cross section it doesn't appear to match UST spec, so will a UST spec tire mount to these rims?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorin_2 View Post
    I've scoured this and the 29er Chinese thread but can't find the answer to this question:

    Has anyone mounted a UST tire (not tubeless ready, but actual UST) to the AM (34mm internal) version of these rims? From the rim cross section it doesn't appear to match UST spec, so will a UST spec tire mount to these rims?
    many tubeless ready tires have a UST spec bead, just not an air-tight casing.
    user 'zorg' seems to be running S captain 2bliss on his with bonty strips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorin_2 View Post
    I've scoured this and the 29er Chinese thread but can't find the answer to this question:

    Has anyone mounted a UST tire (not tubeless ready, but actual UST) to the AM (34mm internal) version of these rims? From the rim cross section it doesn't appear to match UST spec, so will a UST spec tire mount to these rims?
    I'm running ust tires just fine

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    Missling bead lock?

    Quote Originally Posted by macming View Post
    I'm running ust tires just fine
    Macming, forgive me for beating a dead horse; but how is it possible as based on the profile there appears to be no bead lock? How does the UST tire "hook" for the air tight seal without the bead lock on the rim? That's what worries me most, as I plan on strictly using UST tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorin_2 View Post
    Macming, forgive me for beating a dead horse; but how is it possible as based on the profile there appears to be no bead lock? How does the UST tire "hook" for the air tight seal without the bead lock on the rim? That's what worries me most, as I plan on strictly using UST tires.
    i haven't followed that closely but weren't there two drawings? - one that was incorrect and one that was corrected that had been emailed to some people who asked directly about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorin_2 View Post
    Macming, forgive me for beating a dead horse; but how is it possible as based on the profile there appears to be no bead lock? How does the UST tire "hook" for the air tight seal without the bead lock on the rim? That's what worries me most, as I plan on strictly using UST tires.
    I was concerned about the lack of bead lock myself. In fact, I purchased a set of Bontrager Rythem strips to correct this.

    At the end of the day, my UST nobby nics mounted supe easily. The bead popped into place as I aired them up. I left them at 30 psi, and the tire/wheel performed beatifully over the last ride.

    Considering how cheap these rims are, I have no complaints.

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    Anybody received their rims recently? Looks like my order is still stalled.
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    hopefully soon

    "We got the test rims from the updated mold last Friday and the rims were in good condition, we would officially manufacture wider 26er rims and ship them out in ordering sequence from this week.

    Best Regards,
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    Quote Originally Posted by toons101 View Post
    hopefully soon

    "We got the test rims from the updated mold last Friday and the rims were in good condition, we would officially manufacture wider 26er rims and ship them out in ordering sequence from this week.

    Best Regards,
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    Are these the rims for "heavier people" or just the regular wide rims?
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    Quote Originally Posted by captain spaulding View Post
    Are these the rims for "heavier people" or just the regular wide rims?
    regular wide rims

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    there really isnt a distinguishment between the two, they are the same rim, one just layed up with more carbon...they will be using the same molds so its just a matter of when you placed your order it sounds like, regardless if you asked for the HD rims or standard

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    Good job! Ordered mine today!

    I have a new set of the very light American Classic Disc hubs and just paid for my set of the wider 26 inch rims today ($304.00 with logo). Mine will have the matte finish 3k with their name in clear high gloss like ENVE does but instead of the blue background it will be red. I will be using DT Competition spokes (1.8-2.0) with red ano nipples and AC red ano tubeless valve stems. They should look pretty awesome when they're built up before the end of next month.

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    Going to order a pair. What size length spokes should I use for the front and rear?

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    I'll post the ERD when I get them.

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    Logo

    Quote Originally Posted by sbrdude1 View Post
    ($304.00 with logo). .
    Can someone educate me on the process involved to get the logo done? What colors do they support? What dimensions do you use? What file format do you send them? I'm most interested in paying the bit extra for logos but the process seems quite obscure to me.

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    I did the logo in clear to contrast the matte finish and the blue behind the logo will be red.
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    Logo

    Impressive! Although I would have gone with "NANCY COMPOSITES" myself (kidding).

    Did you actually send them this image, or did you create a graphic file that accounted for the rim curvature and such? If so do you mind sharing how so I can recreate in Illustrator (using different words of course)?

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    UST compatible?

    Just received this cross section diagram from Brian. Aside from the small ledge this looks like it might work ok with UST spec tires, which is what I plan on running. Thoughts?


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    read the thread, its been discussed

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    Update from Nancy:
    Sorry for the late reply, the rims will be shipped before the end of this month. The first production has been started last week. And will do sanding & painting these days. I will do QC check before shipping.

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    Bontrager symmetric Rythm strip will give you the bead lock you're looking for (wide rim only). It weighs next to nothing and works beautifully. I also suspect (but only time will tell) that the Rythm strip will hold up better over time than the equivalent Stan strip, while being much cheaper. I run a 2.0 Spesh Captain 2bliss tire on the rear and a Maxxis Advantage 2.25 on the front with Stan's goop without any problem. I used my compressor to air it up and the bead set quickly. The Captain took 2-3 rides to seal well, and now holds air really well. I currently run the tires around 30-32 psi (probably 175-180# ready to ride) on an Intense Carbine. I'll experiment with lower pressures over the next few rides.

    One more thing: I had to use 3 tire levers to set in place a new Captain tire, and it was a real pain. I only needed one for the used Maxxis Advantage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zorg View Post
    Bontrager symmetric Rythm strip will give you the bead lock you're looking for (wide rim only). It weighs next to nothing and works beautifully. I also suspect (but only time will tell) that the Rythm strip will hold up better over time than the equivalent Stan strip, while being much cheaper. I run a 2.0 Spesh Captain 2bliss tire on the rear and a Maxxis Advantage 2.25 on the front with Stan's goop without any problem. I used my compressor to air it up and the bead set quickly. The Captain took 2-3 rides to seal well, and now holds air really well. I currently run the tires around 30-32 psi (probably 175-180# ready to ride) on an Intense Carbine. I'll experiment with lower pressures over the next few rides.

    One more thing: I had to use 3 tire levers to set in place a new Captain tire, and it was a real pain. I only needed one for the used Maxxis Advantage.
    you ran the flow strips prior to the bonty strip, right? another poster showed the bonty didn't meet the bead fully - i assume yours are the same and how did the flow strip fit compared to the bonty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'size View Post
    you ran the flow strips prior to the bonty strip, right? another poster showed the bonty didn't meet the bead fully - i assume yours are the same and how did the flow strip fit compared to the bonty?

    26in chinese carbon all mountain rim
    I ordered a Flow strip but never used it since the Rythm strip worked so well. I don't quite follow the "UST bead being too far" comment. The edges of the strip are lined up properly with the inside rim wall as far as I can tell, so if the UST beadlocks are too far, that'd be due to the Rythm strip being inadequate. Then again, I'm no tire/bead/wheel specialist, just your average Joe rider. For what it's worth, I rode the bike in the mountain where it's fairly rocky a couple times, and the rear tire never burped (front wheel wasn't ready yet then).
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    I ordered yesterday a pair of 26" carbon rims (not the wide version) and today I got this ETA from Nancy:

    Hello sir,
    Thank you so much, your rims will be finished in 8days, i will mail you the tracking number when the rims are finished.
    Thanks,Nancy
    I must tell that I never had such a quick reply and support from any online company in the past. Nancy is answering me in less than 10 minutes each time I'm sending. Now lets hope it will really be 8 days...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorg View Post
    I ordered a Flow strip but never used it since the Rythm strip worked so well. I don't quite follow the "UST bead being too far" comment. The edges of the strip are lined up properly with the inside rim wall as far as I can tell, so if the UST beadlocks are too far, that'd be due to the Rythm strip being inadequate. Then again, I'm no tire/bead/wheel specialist, just your average Joe rider. For what it's worth, I rode the bike in the mountain where it's fairly rocky a couple times, and the rear tire never burped (front wheel wasn't ready yet then).
    do your strips look like this when mounted?





    or is there a gap between the strip and the bead hook like this?


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    Looks like it.
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    No they sent me the image.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorg View Post
    Looks like it.
    'it' being the first two images or the third?

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    The wheel logo pic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'size View Post
    'it' being the first two images or the third?
    Looks like the first. I don't remember seeing a gap, then again, I wasn't looking for it either. I'm a simple guy. I put it on, I installed the tire, I aired it up and it stayed inflated. I was happy.
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    This whole ERD thing needs to be checked. Is it 536 or 530? Are you guys who say 530 sure you're measuring correctly?
    I have flows now and would like to swap over since they also have ERD 536

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    you should measure it yourself once you get them, especially with some of the manufacturing hiccups that have come up, theres a chance that there may be some differing measures on these rims, though a 6mm delta seems quite off
    ...that said, they list 536mm on the website for the wide 26", and i believe the guys ordering the 29er version have come up with similar measures as the websites listed ERD

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'size View Post
    'it' being the first two images or the third?
    I posted the second picture. If you looked at the rim directly, there is the same amount of gap between the rim and the strip. I wasn't too comfortable with it, and the strip made the rim too tight to mount a tire.

    Quote Originally Posted by zorg View Post
    Looks like the first. I don't remember seeing a gap, then again, I wasn't looking for it either. I'm a simple guy. I put it on, I installed the tire, I aired it up and it stayed inflated. I was happy.
    Quote Originally Posted by gladegp View Post
    This whole ERD thing needs to be checked. Is it 536 or 530? Are you guys who say 530 sure you're measuring correctly?
    I have flows now and would like to swap over since they also have ERD 536
    My rims were definitely not 536. The excess spoke showing on my straight pull Industry 9 wheels is much more so than 1.5mm (I had DT 5.1ds with 539mm ERD before). Both my LBS and I came to the same 529-530mm measurement.

    If you don't have spokes already, I'd wait until you got the rims before ordering spokes.

    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    you should measure it yourself once you get them, especially with some of the manufacturing hiccups that have come up, theres a chance that there may be some differing measures on these rims, though a 6mm delta seems quite off
    ...that said, they list 536mm on the website for the wide 26", and i believe the guys ordering the 29er version have come up with similar measures as the websites listed ERD
    Perhaps it was a manufacturing defect. I probably should've waited for the second batch

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    Quote Originally Posted by macming View Post

    My rims were definitely not 536. The excess spoke showing on my straight pull Industry 9 wheels is much more so than 1.5mm (I had DT 5.1ds with 539mm ERD before). Both my LBS and I came to the same 529-530mm measurement.
    wow, those I9 spoke/hubs are way more versatile than i thought. I never knew you could use the same spokes for rims that differ by 10mm in ERD. (I probably should've bought that I9 wheelset that was up for sale a while back)

    So, do you have an extra 5mm of spoke showing through at the hub?

    Do those I9 spokes need nipples at the rim end, or is there a thicker bit at the end - kinda like a built in nipple?

    Did you measure the ERD with these i9 spokes/nipples? How about stock standard nipples/spokes? If so, did you get the same ERD? From what I have read, some of the other nipples sit a little differently in some rims, making a few mm diff in the ERD measurement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gladegp View Post
    This whole ERD thing needs to be checked. Is it 536 or 530? Are you guys who say 530 sure you're measuring correctly?
    I have flows now and would like to swap over since they also have ERD 536
    If in doubt, measure it yourself. Check online, there are several means to measure it.

    As I stated above, I measured mine at 537 mm, close enough to the 536 mm. Measured it myself, bought the necessary spokes to build my wheel and it came out right on.

    Good luck with that.

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    Any riders here tested this rims at downhill or any really rocky terrain ?
    Will it hold?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmats View Post
    If in doubt, measure it yourself. Check online, there are several means to measure it.

    As I stated above, I measured mine at 537 mm, close enough to the 536 mm. Measured it myself, bought the necessary spokes to build my wheel and it came out right on.

    Good luck with that.
    First of all I found it very difficult to measure ERD precisely. I used the techniques from a wheelbuilding PDF I have but I still got it wrong on an old rim.

    Second, I have Comp and Revo spokes matching my Hope Pro2 and Flows which would be nice to use over again. If I could do that it would make this deal more attractive.

    I sort of doubt that it could be quality problems making the rims differ by 6-7 mm in diameter. I mean thay have solid metal molds they make these in. They can't differ that much if they dont switch molds. I'd be more inclined to thinking it's measuring differences.

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    Spending again...

    Because of this "stupid" thread, I have now ordered the wide 26" rims... Also ordered the MTB252 rear hub from BikeHubStore. I went with this hub because it has 42 POE, good for my singlespeed. This will be the first time I will be building wheels. I've done pretty much everything on my bikes, except build wheels... damn MTBR.....

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    See attached image. I broke a piece of the freehub body while trying to change my bearings yesterday. I took this picture to source a new freehub body from I9.

    The I9 spokes have a built in nipple and thread into the hub.


    Quote Originally Posted by sclyde2 View Post
    wow, those I9 spoke/hubs are way more versatile than i thought. I never knew you could use the same spokes for rims that differ by 10mm in ERD. (I probably should've bought that I9 wheelset that was up for sale a while back)

    So, do you have an extra 5mm of spoke showing through at the hub?

    Do those I9 spokes need nipples at the rim end, or is there a thicker bit at the end - kinda like a built in nipple?

    Did you measure the ERD with these i9 spokes/nipples? How about stock standard nipples/spokes? If so, did you get the same ERD? From what I have read, some of the other nipples sit a little differently in some rims, making a few mm diff in the ERD measurement.
    Quote Originally Posted by gmats View Post
    If in doubt, measure it yourself. Check online, there are several means to measure it.

    As I stated above, I measured mine at 537 mm, close enough to the 536 mm. Measured it myself, bought the necessary spokes to build my wheel and it came out right on.

    Good luck with that.
    Quote Originally Posted by gladegp View Post
    First of all I found it very difficult to measure ERD precisely. I used the techniques from a wheelbuilding PDF I have but I still got it wrong on an old rim.

    Second, I have Comp and Revo spokes matching my Hope Pro2 and Flows which would be nice to use over again. If I could do that it would make this deal more attractive.

    I sort of doubt that it could be quality problems making the rims differ by 6-7 mm in diameter. I mean thay have solid metal molds they make these in. They can't differ that much if they dont switch molds. I'd be more inclined to thinking it's measuring differences.
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    This mornings email from Light-Bicycle

    Hello

    I am sorry to say but I'm afraid not. The 26er rims have not come out yet. We are now trying our best to manufacture. They should be shipped at the end of this month. We are sorry about it.

    Best Regards,
    Brian from Light-Bicycle

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    Asked them about 20mm F & 12x142 R 32H on the wider rims, $540, def sounds reasonable, if I blew up another ex 500, I might just pull the trigger..
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    Subscribed. Interested on this rims as well.

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    Got an email this morning from Brian. Seems they can't get a good batch of the 26 wider rims. Going to be a while.

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    for real? jeez...have been trying to wait as this wasnt a need now build but im growing impatient
    wonder what the issues are, did they say?

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