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    WOW those look great!
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    Yeah, my first reaction was "dang, those rims are ginormous".
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    They look great indeed. Makes me wish I had ordered this outlook instead of UD matte. Maybe this final outer layer adds a couple of grams compared to UD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmats View Post
    Pic10 - 378 grams. Almost 40 grams heavier than what the spec says. Good enough for me though, much lighter than the rims I am using now. (Oh, Check that. The website now says 370g +/-10g. That's about right).

    Oh, and they charged me $130ea plus $50 shipping. Not the listed $140/piece.
    those look nice, good pics

    actually, they are listed at 370g+/-10g, so i'd say thats pretty good...you are thinking of the narrow rims, which it sounds like you paid for

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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    those look nice, good pics

    actually, they are listed at 370g+/-10g, so i'd say thats pretty good...you are thinking of the narrow rims, which it sounds like you paid for
    Yes, that's right. I certainly ordered via the "wide" "Buy It Now" and they charged me the $130/ea. And yes, I definitely received the Wide rims. Weight is pretty much on the mark.

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    Just placed my order for UD 32h rims only. Hopefully it'll be much faster than the road rims I ordered from them.
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    I'm really hoping my 3k's come looking like that last picture. Looks like they set up the UD base, then wrapped the whole thing in 3k, which would be a lot stronger, IMO.
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    Great pics, measurements, and weight. Thanks for the info! I am very tempted to order a set. gosh it is hard to take a risk on an all mountain set up. I'll be realy curious what you think of the build and such. Thanks for sharing!!!

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    What would be the benefit of going with the wide version of the rim versus the narrow? Anyone know what the minimum tire size is for the wide rim?

    Looking at these for XC and endurance races

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    How much lighter & narrower (internal width) are the lighter XC rims compared to these AM rims? I emailed Nancy a few days ago, no word. Makes it hard to decide which one I want :-)

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    I've just had a UD matte come in at 374g. Mine has fairly obvious manufacturing marks, and one sections where someone has clearly just filed down excess material around the bead hook. Also, I suspect that the uniform surface of the UD just shows imperfections more clearly than the cross weave. Still, I am happy to experiment with it for what it cost.

    I'll try get some photos up tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PainkillerSPE View Post
    What would be the benefit of going with the wide version of the rim versus the narrow? Anyone know what the minimum tire size is for the wide rim?

    Looking at these for XC and endurance races
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    Quote Originally Posted by toons101 View Post
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    So would a wide rim still be able to handle a 1.9 to 2.3 tires?

    Has anyone tried out their road rims as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rfxc View Post
    How much lighter & narrower (internal width) are the lighter XC rims compared to these AM rims? I emailed Nancy a few days ago, no word. Makes it hard to decide which one I want :-)
    states on the website 370g +/-10 for the wide and 330 +/-10 for the narrow
    page 1 of this thread has the internal widths of both
    nancy has been getting back to me within a few hours for my last few emails, but chat is even better when they are at work

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    It sounds like buyers are just starting to receive first shipments of the wider all mountain rims. Please post your experiences running tubeless. I am very interested in ordering a set but am waiting to hear of tubeless experiences. Thanks Much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by womble View Post
    I've just had a UD matte come in at 374g. Mine has fairly obvious manufacturing marks, and one sections where someone has clearly just filed down excess material around the bead hook. Also, I suspect that the uniform surface of the UD just shows imperfections more clearly than the cross weave. Still, I am happy to experiment with it for what it cost.

    I'll try get some photos up tomorrow.
    I just got my rims today too! I got the UD version, and there are definitely marks where someone just cut and filed down the excess resin. The bond joints are very visible, and to advertise these rims to have a UST profile is pretty sketchy in my opinion.

    On the outside, the finish look pretty good, and the rims feel really light. I'd say 370 - 380 grams is about right. I dropped them off at the LBS, so they should be built up soon.

    The rim bed tapers away from the rim wall, therefore, I think these will burp pretty easily without support below.

    What is everyone's plan for tubeless? Yellow tape or the Bontrager Rhythm strip?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PainkillerSPE View Post
    So would a wide rim still be able to handle a 1.9 to 2.3 tires?

    Has anyone tried out their road rims as well?
    I wouldn't run a 1.9" tire on a 23mm wide rim. I'd try to shoot for 2.2" at least

    This rim can probably handle up to 3" wide tire since it's internal width is identical to the Mavic 823.

    This rim is WIDE. In comparision, the DT 5.1d is 21mm wide, and Mavic 819 is 19mm, and most XC rims are 17-20mm wide.

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    Any tubeless successes or failure that folks may have, please post them up. I am really on the fence about these rims, the tipping point is absolutely in the reviews about tubeless compatibility.

    They say you can only have two...light, cheap, strong

    I hope these are strong, they already have light and cheap. By strong I mean at least like a 550 gram aluminum rim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macming View Post
    I just got my rims today too! I got the UD version, and there are definitely marks where someone just cut and filed down the excess resin. The bond joints are very visible, and to advertise these rims to have a UST profile is pretty sketchy in my opinion.

    On the outside, the finish look pretty good, and the rims feel really light. I'd say 370 - 380 grams is about right. I dropped them off at the LBS, so they should be built up soon.

    The rim bed tapers away from the rim wall, therefore, I think these will burp pretty easily without support below.

    What is everyone's plan for tubeless? Yellow tape or the Bontrager Rhythm strip?
    You can easily see the filing and the bond joints on ENVE rims as well. I just hope these rims are as successful with tubeless like their 29er version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonylokrn View Post
    You can easily see the filing and the bond joints on ENVE rims as well. I just hope these rims are as successful with tubeless like their 29er version.
    This is different. I have a few sets of carbon road wheelsets, and they are finished MUCH nicer.

    For the $$, I have no complaints. Just wanted to mentioned the "imperfections" I see.

    What do you think about the UST groove? I'd feel pretty nervous with the rim beds that tapers away.

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    Hmmmm...these are tempting,

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    Man, those are freakn sweet yo.

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    29er forum guys are having good results with yellow tape and the same rim profile, fwiw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc D View Post
    Any tubeless successes or failure that folks may have, please post them up. I am really on the fence about these rims, the tipping point is absolutely in the reviews about tubeless compatibility.

    They say you can only have two...light, cheap, strong

    I hope these are strong, they already have light and cheap. By strong I mean at least like a 550 gram aluminum rim.
    Totally agree. Tubeless function, propensity to burp or not, will make or break these rims in my book

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    I ordered some Flow rimstrips. I'll take the weight penalty to ensure a tighter seal over the yellow tape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    29er forum guys are having good results with yellow tape and the same rim profile, fwiw
    There have been numerous failures on the 29er rims with only yellow tape though. I'll think about this for the next few days, and decide which way to go. Again, for the money, these rims can't be beat

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    Quote Originally Posted by macming View Post
    There have been numerous failures on the 29er rims with only yellow tape though. I'll think about this for the next few days, and decide which way to go. Again, for the money, these rims can't be beat
    well, 3 out of 5 people had good results with tape, the other 2 had some burps
    def a safer bet with strips from bonti or stans, but i have a roll of tape around here somewhere so im going that route first, especially since these have a ust bead (or an attempt at making one ) and if i have issues ill buy some strips

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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    well, 3 out of 5 people had good results with tape, the other 2 had some burps
    def a safer bet with strips from bonti or stans, but i have a roll of tape around here somewhere so im going that route first, especially since these have a ust bead (or an attempt at making one ) and if i have issues ill buy some strips
    I have the other problem. I have Bonti strips but no yellow tape

    I think I'll see how tight the Bonti strips fit, and decide if I want to apply tape. On my current DT 5.1Ds, I've gotten away with just yellow tape, but the rim profile does not taper off to the center as aggressively.

    When will your wheels be ready? Mine's at the shop and I'm hoping to report back by next week.

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    they were supposed to ship yesterday or today last i checked with nancy, so hopefully ill have the rims next week, then measure and order some spokes, and start building....2 weeks is prob the soonest ill be on them, but thats being optimistic probably
    started out as a project i was kind of gonna do on the side and not pay much mind to how long it took, but now the anticipation is starting to get to me

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    My road rims from Nancy are taking forever to reach the USA via EMS.

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    2012-04-07 20:28:21 XIAMEN Despatch from Sorting Center
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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    they were supposed to ship yesterday or today last i checked with nancy, so hopefully ill have the rims next week, then measure and order some spokes, and start building....2 weeks is prob the soonest ill be on them, but thats being optimistic probably
    started out as a project i was kind of gonna do on the side and not pay much mind to how long it took, but now the anticipation is starting to get to me
    Keep me posted on your build I think carbon fiber rims has a special way to get people excited.

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    My road rims from Nancy are taking forever to reach the USA via EMS.

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    2012-04-07 19:30:30 XIAMEN Arrival at Sorting Center

    2012-04-07 20:28:21 XIAMEN Despatch from Sorting Center
    Mine took 10 days to get to Canada. Add in Easter and the customs slows way down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PainkillerSPE View Post
    What would be the benefit of going with the wide version of the rim versus the narrow? Anyone know what the minimum tire size is for the wide rim?

    Looking at these for XC and endurance races
    I have been wondering the same thing. I never run bigger than a 2.2 anyway. Do you think the narrower rins with rim strips would work for tubeless? I have put rim strips on other non tubelesss rims and it worked fine. 40g lighter x2.
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    regarding the Wide 26" AM rim...

    Just came across this discussion.
    I had e-mailed Nancy regarding weight limits and downhill / freeride capability.

    She said that in their current form they have a weight limit of 100 - 110 kg.
    As well, she said that for heavy DH riding they can "beef" up the rim and it would be about 430 grams.

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    I've got the 26" wide rims on order and was speaking to Brian this morning.

    "And we are sorry to inform you that the process of manufacturing 26er rims is a little knotty recently and being updated these days, to make them as good as 29er rim ,to assure quality. The mold is being updated a little bit these days. And we can start to make more rims since next week. Quite a few customers have placed the order of 26er wider rims and they have waited for a long time.

    So if it is not so urgent, could you wait for 10-12 working days to get your rims?"

    Looks like a delay :-(

    I also asked about the heavier rims; they're 400/410g, the 430g is the heavy 29'er rim.

    I've gone for the heavier rim for the extra strength

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    Quote Originally Posted by toons101 View Post
    I've got the 26" wide rims on order and was speaking to Brian this morning.

    "And we are sorry to inform you that the process of manufacturing 26er rims is a little knotty recently and being updated these days, to make them as good as 29er rim ,to assure quality. The mold is being updated a little bit these days. And we can start to make more rims since next week. Quite a few customers have placed the order of 26er wider rims and they have waited for a long time.

    So if it is not so urgent, could you wait for 10-12 working days to get your rims?"

    Looks like a delay :-(

    I also asked about the heavier rims; they're 400/410g, the 430g is the heavy 29'er rim.

    I've gone for the heavier rim for the extra strength
    When did you order?
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    Real quick, I finally got around to measuring the two rims I received. The ERD cam in at 537 mm. So it's pretty darn close to the advertised 536 mm spec.

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    I ordered 3 weeks ago now. Requested delivery status/tracking a week ago, and was told about 2 more days. Requested it again last night, thinking they may have forgot to send tracking, so I can keep an eye for the postal guy. Now received the same "copy pasted" email from above, about the knotty process and would it be ok to ship in 10 more days?

    Not very confidence inspiring at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thuren View Post
    I ordered 3 weeks ago now. Requested delivery status/tracking a week ago, and was told about 2 more days. Requested it again last night, thinking they may have forgot to send tracking, so I can keep an eye for the postal guy. Now received the same "copy pasted" email from above, about the knotty process and would it be ok to ship in 10 more days?

    Not very confidence inspiring at this point.
    Aloha,

    Hang in there, I think it's worth it. The price is right and the rims look awesome. Size, weight, measurements all look good.

    I just ordered spokes yesterday, hoping to get them by the end of the week (tough to get stuff out here in Hawaii sometimes) and maybe build up next week some time and "maybe" get on bike next-next week. Phew, time flies.

    I came up with 260/258mm for rear Chris King ISO hub if anyone is interested. Will report back after I build.

    Hope that bit of information helps.

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    Thanks got a nice email back from Brian. I'm holding tight.

    Got my spokes, new tires, nipples, Hope Pro 2's, and ready to rock as soon as they show!
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    Anyone have any pics of these built up yet?

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    What is the ERD for those have their rims already? Mu mechanic said mine measured to 529mm and that seems way too small. I thought they were supposed to be around 536.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macming View Post
    What is the ERD for those have their rims already? Mu mechanic said mine measured to 529mm and that seems way too small. I thought they were supposed to be around 536.
    I measured two of the rims I got and they came in right at 537 mm. Look at my post above. I've also ordered the spokes for my CK rear ISO hub at 258/260mm. Like I said above, I'll update when I get to the build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmats View Post
    I measured two of the rims I got and they came in right at 537 mm. Look at my post above. I've also ordered the spokes for my CK rear ISO hub at 258/260mm. Like I said above, I'll update when I get to the build.
    Perfect, I thought it was supposed to be around 536mm.

    I got the rims back with me, and I'll measure them myself this afternoon.

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    Update from "Nancy" (runs in line with the other replies):

    "For rims, i checked one rim bead is over-sanded, also, our engineers decide to update the mold a little bit to prevent this issue.
    So, your order is delayed, would you mind to wait for a few days for good rims? If not, we can return the payment to you, please don't worry about it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmats View Post
    I measured two of the rims I got and they came in right at 537 mm. Look at my post above. I've also ordered the spokes for my CK rear ISO hub at 258/260mm. Like I said above, I'll update when I get to the build.
    I went with 258mm all around for the CK ISO rear.
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    So I had a very pleasant and lengthy chat with Nancy today.

    Apparently they are indeed updating the mold and are trying out a new compound with silicon added. Don't have anything technical, but supposedly going to make the rim a bit stronger.

    If the delay is a problem for you, then it would be best if you moved on. I'd accept a delay in return for a stronger rim with more R&D.
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    Ah, so all of us who have so far received rims are running version 1.0 and we're about to be superseded already

    I've posted the results of my 26" rim in the 40+ page 29er thread- rim looks good, weighs 375g and has 3 areas with very obvious sanding marks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by womble View Post
    Ah, so all of us who have so far received rims are running version 1.0 and we're about to be superseded already

    I've posted the results of my 26" rim in the 40+ page 29er thread- rim looks good, weighs 375g and has 3 areas with very obvious sanding marks.
    Well nothing wrong at all with the version 1.0

    Apparently there were a few other that complained about the bead, so they're updating that area.

    The silicon is just something new that they're trying out first on the wider 26er/29er. If results are good, then they will use it on everything else.

    So far I believe they're still testing it, but Nancy is hopeful that they should be able to start completing orders in the next week or so.
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    Thank you beta testers. Keep us informed.

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