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    WOW those look great!
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    Yeah, my first reaction was "dang, those rims are ginormous".
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    They look great indeed. Makes me wish I had ordered this outlook instead of UD matte. Maybe this final outer layer adds a couple of grams compared to UD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmats View Post
    Pic10 - 378 grams. Almost 40 grams heavier than what the spec says. Good enough for me though, much lighter than the rims I am using now. (Oh, Check that. The website now says 370g +/-10g. That's about right).

    Oh, and they charged me $130ea plus $50 shipping. Not the listed $140/piece.
    those look nice, good pics

    actually, they are listed at 370g+/-10g, so i'd say thats pretty good...you are thinking of the narrow rims, which it sounds like you paid for

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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    those look nice, good pics

    actually, they are listed at 370g+/-10g, so i'd say thats pretty good...you are thinking of the narrow rims, which it sounds like you paid for
    Yes, that's right. I certainly ordered via the "wide" "Buy It Now" and they charged me the $130/ea. And yes, I definitely received the Wide rims. Weight is pretty much on the mark.

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    Just placed my order for UD 32h rims only. Hopefully it'll be much faster than the road rims I ordered from them.

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    I'm really hoping my 3k's come looking like that last picture. Looks like they set up the UD base, then wrapped the whole thing in 3k, which would be a lot stronger, IMO.
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    Great pics, measurements, and weight. Thanks for the info! I am very tempted to order a set. gosh it is hard to take a risk on an all mountain set up. I'll be realy curious what you think of the build and such. Thanks for sharing!!!

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    What would be the benefit of going with the wide version of the rim versus the narrow? Anyone know what the minimum tire size is for the wide rim?

    Looking at these for XC and endurance races

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    How much lighter & narrower (internal width) are the lighter XC rims compared to these AM rims? I emailed Nancy a few days ago, no word. Makes it hard to decide which one I want :-)

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    I've just had a UD matte come in at 374g. Mine has fairly obvious manufacturing marks, and one sections where someone has clearly just filed down excess material around the bead hook. Also, I suspect that the uniform surface of the UD just shows imperfections more clearly than the cross weave. Still, I am happy to experiment with it for what it cost.

    I'll try get some photos up tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PainkillerSPE View Post
    What would be the benefit of going with the wide version of the rim versus the narrow? Anyone know what the minimum tire size is for the wide rim?

    Looking at these for XC and endurance races
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    Quote Originally Posted by toons101 View Post
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    So would a wide rim still be able to handle a 1.9 to 2.3 tires?

    Has anyone tried out their road rims as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rfxc View Post
    How much lighter & narrower (internal width) are the lighter XC rims compared to these AM rims? I emailed Nancy a few days ago, no word. Makes it hard to decide which one I want :-)
    states on the website 370g +/-10 for the wide and 330 +/-10 for the narrow
    page 1 of this thread has the internal widths of both
    nancy has been getting back to me within a few hours for my last few emails, but chat is even better when they are at work

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    It sounds like buyers are just starting to receive first shipments of the wider all mountain rims. Please post your experiences running tubeless. I am very interested in ordering a set but am waiting to hear of tubeless experiences. Thanks Much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by womble View Post
    I've just had a UD matte come in at 374g. Mine has fairly obvious manufacturing marks, and one sections where someone has clearly just filed down excess material around the bead hook. Also, I suspect that the uniform surface of the UD just shows imperfections more clearly than the cross weave. Still, I am happy to experiment with it for what it cost.

    I'll try get some photos up tomorrow.
    I just got my rims today too! I got the UD version, and there are definitely marks where someone just cut and filed down the excess resin. The bond joints are very visible, and to advertise these rims to have a UST profile is pretty sketchy in my opinion.

    On the outside, the finish look pretty good, and the rims feel really light. I'd say 370 - 380 grams is about right. I dropped them off at the LBS, so they should be built up soon.

    The rim bed tapers away from the rim wall, therefore, I think these will burp pretty easily without support below.

    What is everyone's plan for tubeless? Yellow tape or the Bontrager Rhythm strip?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PainkillerSPE View Post
    So would a wide rim still be able to handle a 1.9 to 2.3 tires?

    Has anyone tried out their road rims as well?
    I wouldn't run a 1.9" tire on a 23mm wide rim. I'd try to shoot for 2.2" at least

    This rim can probably handle up to 3" wide tire since it's internal width is identical to the Mavic 823.

    This rim is WIDE. In comparision, the DT 5.1d is 21mm wide, and Mavic 819 is 19mm, and most XC rims are 17-20mm wide.

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    Any tubeless successes or failure that folks may have, please post them up. I am really on the fence about these rims, the tipping point is absolutely in the reviews about tubeless compatibility.

    They say you can only have two...light, cheap, strong

    I hope these are strong, they already have light and cheap. By strong I mean at least like a 550 gram aluminum rim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macming View Post
    I just got my rims today too! I got the UD version, and there are definitely marks where someone just cut and filed down the excess resin. The bond joints are very visible, and to advertise these rims to have a UST profile is pretty sketchy in my opinion.

    On the outside, the finish look pretty good, and the rims feel really light. I'd say 370 - 380 grams is about right. I dropped them off at the LBS, so they should be built up soon.

    The rim bed tapers away from the rim wall, therefore, I think these will burp pretty easily without support below.

    What is everyone's plan for tubeless? Yellow tape or the Bontrager Rhythm strip?
    You can easily see the filing and the bond joints on ENVE rims as well. I just hope these rims are as successful with tubeless like their 29er version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonylokrn View Post
    You can easily see the filing and the bond joints on ENVE rims as well. I just hope these rims are as successful with tubeless like their 29er version.
    This is different. I have a few sets of carbon road wheelsets, and they are finished MUCH nicer.

    For the $$, I have no complaints. Just wanted to mentioned the "imperfections" I see.

    What do you think about the UST groove? I'd feel pretty nervous with the rim beds that tapers away.

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    Hmmmm...these are tempting,

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    Man, those are freakn sweet yo.

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    29er forum guys are having good results with yellow tape and the same rim profile, fwiw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc D View Post
    Any tubeless successes or failure that folks may have, please post them up. I am really on the fence about these rims, the tipping point is absolutely in the reviews about tubeless compatibility.

    They say you can only have two...light, cheap, strong

    I hope these are strong, they already have light and cheap. By strong I mean at least like a 550 gram aluminum rim.
    Totally agree. Tubeless function, propensity to burp or not, will make or break these rims in my book

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    I ordered some Flow rimstrips. I'll take the weight penalty to ensure a tighter seal over the yellow tape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    29er forum guys are having good results with yellow tape and the same rim profile, fwiw
    There have been numerous failures on the 29er rims with only yellow tape though. I'll think about this for the next few days, and decide which way to go. Again, for the money, these rims can't be beat

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    Quote Originally Posted by macming View Post
    There have been numerous failures on the 29er rims with only yellow tape though. I'll think about this for the next few days, and decide which way to go. Again, for the money, these rims can't be beat
    well, 3 out of 5 people had good results with tape, the other 2 had some burps
    def a safer bet with strips from bonti or stans, but i have a roll of tape around here somewhere so im going that route first, especially since these have a ust bead (or an attempt at making one ) and if i have issues ill buy some strips

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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    well, 3 out of 5 people had good results with tape, the other 2 had some burps
    def a safer bet with strips from bonti or stans, but i have a roll of tape around here somewhere so im going that route first, especially since these have a ust bead (or an attempt at making one ) and if i have issues ill buy some strips
    I have the other problem. I have Bonti strips but no yellow tape

    I think I'll see how tight the Bonti strips fit, and decide if I want to apply tape. On my current DT 5.1Ds, I've gotten away with just yellow tape, but the rim profile does not taper off to the center as aggressively.

    When will your wheels be ready? Mine's at the shop and I'm hoping to report back by next week.

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    they were supposed to ship yesterday or today last i checked with nancy, so hopefully ill have the rims next week, then measure and order some spokes, and start building....2 weeks is prob the soonest ill be on them, but thats being optimistic probably
    started out as a project i was kind of gonna do on the side and not pay much mind to how long it took, but now the anticipation is starting to get to me

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    My road rims from Nancy are taking forever to reach the USA via EMS.

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    2012-04-07 19:30:30 XIAMEN Arrival at Sorting Center

    2012-04-07 20:28:21 XIAMEN Despatch from Sorting Center

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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    they were supposed to ship yesterday or today last i checked with nancy, so hopefully ill have the rims next week, then measure and order some spokes, and start building....2 weeks is prob the soonest ill be on them, but thats being optimistic probably
    started out as a project i was kind of gonna do on the side and not pay much mind to how long it took, but now the anticipation is starting to get to me
    Keep me posted on your build I think carbon fiber rims has a special way to get people excited.

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    My road rims from Nancy are taking forever to reach the USA via EMS.

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    2012-04-07 19:30:30 XIAMEN Arrival at Sorting Center

    2012-04-07 20:28:21 XIAMEN Despatch from Sorting Center
    Mine took 10 days to get to Canada. Add in Easter and the customs slows way down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PainkillerSPE View Post
    What would be the benefit of going with the wide version of the rim versus the narrow? Anyone know what the minimum tire size is for the wide rim?

    Looking at these for XC and endurance races
    I have been wondering the same thing. I never run bigger than a 2.2 anyway. Do you think the narrower rins with rim strips would work for tubeless? I have put rim strips on other non tubelesss rims and it worked fine. 40g lighter x2.
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    regarding the Wide 26" AM rim...

    Just came across this discussion.
    I had e-mailed Nancy regarding weight limits and downhill / freeride capability.

    She said that in their current form they have a weight limit of 100 - 110 kg.
    As well, she said that for heavy DH riding they can "beef" up the rim and it would be about 430 grams.

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    I've got the 26" wide rims on order and was speaking to Brian this morning.

    "And we are sorry to inform you that the process of manufacturing 26er rims is a little knotty recently and being updated these days, to make them as good as 29er rim ,to assure quality. The mold is being updated a little bit these days. And we can start to make more rims since next week. Quite a few customers have placed the order of 26er wider rims and they have waited for a long time.

    So if it is not so urgent, could you wait for 10-12 working days to get your rims?"

    Looks like a delay :-(

    I also asked about the heavier rims; they're 400/410g, the 430g is the heavy 29'er rim.

    I've gone for the heavier rim for the extra strength

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    Quote Originally Posted by toons101 View Post
    I've got the 26" wide rims on order and was speaking to Brian this morning.

    "And we are sorry to inform you that the process of manufacturing 26er rims is a little knotty recently and being updated these days, to make them as good as 29er rim ,to assure quality. The mold is being updated a little bit these days. And we can start to make more rims since next week. Quite a few customers have placed the order of 26er wider rims and they have waited for a long time.

    So if it is not so urgent, could you wait for 10-12 working days to get your rims?"

    Looks like a delay :-(

    I also asked about the heavier rims; they're 400/410g, the 430g is the heavy 29'er rim.

    I've gone for the heavier rim for the extra strength
    When did you order?
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    Real quick, I finally got around to measuring the two rims I received. The ERD cam in at 537 mm. So it's pretty darn close to the advertised 536 mm spec.

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    I ordered 3 weeks ago now. Requested delivery status/tracking a week ago, and was told about 2 more days. Requested it again last night, thinking they may have forgot to send tracking, so I can keep an eye for the postal guy. Now received the same "copy pasted" email from above, about the knotty process and would it be ok to ship in 10 more days?

    Not very confidence inspiring at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thuren View Post
    I ordered 3 weeks ago now. Requested delivery status/tracking a week ago, and was told about 2 more days. Requested it again last night, thinking they may have forgot to send tracking, so I can keep an eye for the postal guy. Now received the same "copy pasted" email from above, about the knotty process and would it be ok to ship in 10 more days?

    Not very confidence inspiring at this point.
    Aloha,

    Hang in there, I think it's worth it. The price is right and the rims look awesome. Size, weight, measurements all look good.

    I just ordered spokes yesterday, hoping to get them by the end of the week (tough to get stuff out here in Hawaii sometimes) and maybe build up next week some time and "maybe" get on bike next-next week. Phew, time flies.

    I came up with 260/258mm for rear Chris King ISO hub if anyone is interested. Will report back after I build.

    Hope that bit of information helps.

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    Thanks got a nice email back from Brian. I'm holding tight.

    Got my spokes, new tires, nipples, Hope Pro 2's, and ready to rock as soon as they show!
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    Anyone have any pics of these built up yet?

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    What is the ERD for those have their rims already? Mu mechanic said mine measured to 529mm and that seems way too small. I thought they were supposed to be around 536.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macming View Post
    What is the ERD for those have their rims already? Mu mechanic said mine measured to 529mm and that seems way too small. I thought they were supposed to be around 536.
    I measured two of the rims I got and they came in right at 537 mm. Look at my post above. I've also ordered the spokes for my CK rear ISO hub at 258/260mm. Like I said above, I'll update when I get to the build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmats View Post
    I measured two of the rims I got and they came in right at 537 mm. Look at my post above. I've also ordered the spokes for my CK rear ISO hub at 258/260mm. Like I said above, I'll update when I get to the build.
    Perfect, I thought it was supposed to be around 536mm.

    I got the rims back with me, and I'll measure them myself this afternoon.

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    Update from "Nancy" (runs in line with the other replies):

    "For rims, i checked one rim bead is over-sanded, also, our engineers decide to update the mold a little bit to prevent this issue.
    So, your order is delayed, would you mind to wait for a few days for good rims? If not, we can return the payment to you, please don't worry about it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmats View Post
    I measured two of the rims I got and they came in right at 537 mm. Look at my post above. I've also ordered the spokes for my CK rear ISO hub at 258/260mm. Like I said above, I'll update when I get to the build.
    I went with 258mm all around for the CK ISO rear.

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    So I had a very pleasant and lengthy chat with Nancy today.

    Apparently they are indeed updating the mold and are trying out a new compound with silicon added. Don't have anything technical, but supposedly going to make the rim a bit stronger.

    If the delay is a problem for you, then it would be best if you moved on. I'd accept a delay in return for a stronger rim with more R&D.

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    Ah, so all of us who have so far received rims are running version 1.0 and we're about to be superseded already

    I've posted the results of my 26" rim in the 40+ page 29er thread- rim looks good, weighs 375g and has 3 areas with very obvious sanding marks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by womble View Post
    Ah, so all of us who have so far received rims are running version 1.0 and we're about to be superseded already

    I've posted the results of my 26" rim in the 40+ page 29er thread- rim looks good, weighs 375g and has 3 areas with very obvious sanding marks.
    Well nothing wrong at all with the version 1.0

    Apparently there were a few other that complained about the bead, so they're updating that area.

    The silicon is just something new that they're trying out first on the wider 26er/29er. If results are good, then they will use it on everything else.

    So far I believe they're still testing it, but Nancy is hopeful that they should be able to start completing orders in the next week or so.

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    Thank you beta testers. Keep us informed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thuren View Post
    I ordered 3 weeks ago now. Requested delivery status/tracking a week ago, and was told about 2 more days. Requested it again last night, thinking they may have forgot to send tracking, so I can keep an eye for the postal guy. Now received the same "copy pasted" email from above, about the knotty process and would it be ok to ship in 10 more days?

    Not very confidence inspiring at this point.
    I just got the same email. Makes it seem they aren't close to getting it sorted if they've been saying ten days for the past month.

    Not going to cancel, but I'm getting impatient, got a set of new CK's waiting to be laced up.

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    Any updates? Any more ERD measurements? So far we got one 537mm. Anybody else?

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    I'd like a status update from those that have these laced up and have run them. Anyone yet?

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    I got my third 10 day delay email.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super66 View Post
    I got my third 10 day delay email.
    When did you order?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thuren View Post
    When did you order?
    Over a month ago.

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    For those that are waiting here's the latest update i have from Brian

    "Sorry for late reply, we are at Shanghai Bicycle Fair these days, and we will check the rims the production line manufactured these days on April 30th and report back to you. Because, we will be back to factory on April 30th. Is that ok? The engineers say the new manufacture way is ok, but we need to check the rims by ourselves and mail to customers.

    Best Regards,
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    Quote Originally Posted by toons101 View Post
    For those that are waiting here's the latest update i have from Brian

    "Sorry for late reply, we are at Shanghai Bicycle Fair these days, and we will check the rims the production line manufactured these days on April 30th and report back to you. Because, we will be back to factory on April 30th. Is that ok? The engineers say the new manufacture way is ok, but we need to check the rims by ourselves and mail to customers.

    Best Regards,
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    I just received the same email a few minutes ago.

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    I was in corresponding with light-bicycle over a month ago, and they'd mentioned that they were gearing up for this bike show and implied that there would be an interruption to production because of it. It might be annoying, but it makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACHTUNG! View Post
    I'd like a status update from those that have these laced up and have run them. Anyone yet?
    Aloha,

    I am a step closer, the wheel was laced up this evening. I'll true it out on another day. Total weight for the whole set up is 848 grams. 326 g for the CK ISO hub with 10 mm axle. 135 g for the 32 DT revolution spokes (258/260mm). 9 grams for the red anodized DT Alloy nips. 378 grams for the rim. Sorry, I didn't get any pictures of the laced wheel yet.

    I'm not doing a front wheel because I'm running 650b up front.

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    Beta testers, please provide input on ride quality/lateral stiffness. I am interested to know if the low profile (ie 24mm) vs, the taller Enve (30)mm profile affects the lateral stiffness of the wheel. One if the primary advantages to carbon IMHO is the increase in lateral stiffness vs. aluminum. Seems like these Chinese rims have simply copied the Roval profile, whereas Enve and the other US manufacturers prefer a deeper profile for increased lateral stiffness, right? It is encouraging to see the manufacturer making upgrades to the V2 bead to insure 100% UST compliance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buggymancan View Post
    Beta testers, please provide input on ride quality/lateral stiffness. I am interested to know if the low profile (ie 24mm) vs, the taller Enve (30)mm profile affects the lateral stiffness of the wheel. One if the primary advantages to carbon IMHO is the increase in lateral stiffness vs. aluminum. Seems like these Chinese rims have simply copied the Roval profile, whereas Enve and the other US manufacturers prefer a deeper profile for increased lateral stiffness, right? It is encouraging to see the manufacturer making upgrades to the V2 bead to insure 100% UST compliance.
    Which other companies make taller profiles? I only know of Enve. The Easton haven are also very popular and I believe it's only 22mm depth.

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    Here us my rear wheel with a bontrager strip. Tall rim made it hard to26in chinese carbon all mountain rim-uploadfromtaptalk1335652576544.jpg mount tire.

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    OK, yet another step closer.

    The wheel is trued up. The rim was easy to work with and came out quite nice with "even" spoke tension. There was only one interesting tid-bit. At least in a couple of places the material thickness of where the nipple passes through the rim is a bit thicker. In general, the material around the spoke holes is a bit thicker than typical al rims but standard nipples work fine.

    The first picture shows one of the holes which is thicker.

    Second picture shows "normal" thickness.

    Third and fourth pictures self explanatory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buggymancan View Post
    Beta testers, please provide input on ride quality/lateral stiffness. I am interested to know if the low profile (ie 24mm) vs, the taller Enve (30)mm profile affects the lateral stiffness of the wheel. One if the primary advantages to carbon IMHO is the increase in lateral stiffness vs. aluminum. Seems like these Chinese rims have simply copied the Roval profile, whereas Enve and the other US manufacturers prefer a deeper profile for increased lateral stiffness, right? It is encouraging to see the manufacturer making upgrades to the V2 bead to insure 100% UST compliance.
    i don't claim to be an expert on rims and lateral stiffness, but wouldn't the width of the rim have the impact on lateral stiffness, rather the the height/profile?

    I just imagine 2 hypothetical extreme "rims":
    - one with no width (ie. 1mm wide) but with very high profile,
    - the other with no height but very wide.

    The former could be easily be folded/bent sideways, and the latter couldn't.

    the high profile rim would stay much rounder and resist flat spots, and the other would flat spot more easily. based on all this, in theory, the higher profile wheels would possibly have less vertical deformation, so might ride a bit harder (less compliance) over bumps. do the reports of enve wheels on hardtails reflect this?

    having said all this, the number of spokes, spoke strength/thickness, and possibly spoke tension, would have much more impact lateral stiffness anyway - so it'd be pretty difficult to judge the lateral stiffness of the rim alone unless you had two completely identical builds (other than the rim).

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    First ride in and the rim did not combust. :-) makes for a nice light wheel. I really liked the tire profile with wide rim.

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    carbine! me likey! What's that growth on the chainstay though? :-)

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    No idea, when I pedal, it magically moves forward.;-)

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    Me thinks he's referring to your Bionicon c.guide v.02

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    LOL. For some reason, I read "chain growth". Oh well.
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    OK, one more step closer.

    Drilled the rim out for schrader, mounted a Maxxis High Roller 2.35. The tire aired up real easy and held without any leakage to speak of (ghetto tubeless).

    Overall I am liking the whole set up. The tire is massive and sits nice and square on the rim. I've only taken it for rides up and down the street. Next step, get it out on some single track and see how well the combinations works.
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    As a newb, looking at these rims vs complete wheel from light-bicycle
    It makes sense to just buy the complete wheel if you don't have spare parts., their bladed spokes are very light 4.3g vs dt swiss comp 5.78g. And they do it for same price with less weight.

    their complete wheel $480 + $60 ship to US, $540 1345g
    there are three sellars on ebay with carbon wheels, novatec hub, pillar bladed spokes, $415 1600+/-50g. So the ebay wheels weigh 250g more, but maybe thats all in the extra rim = beefier. Seems like ebay a better deal, Anything I'm missing here?

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    Those eBay rims are narrow, if that's what you are looking for the eBay wheels are cheaper, give them a shot and report back

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    Quote Originally Posted by buggymancan View Post
    Beta testers, please provide input on ride quality/lateral stiffness. I am interested to know if the low profile (ie 24mm) vs, the taller Enve (30)mm profile affects the lateral stiffness of the wheel. One if the primary advantages to carbon IMHO is the increase in lateral stiffness vs. aluminum. Seems like these Chinese rims have simply copied the Roval profile, whereas Enve and the other US manufacturers prefer a deeper profile for increased lateral stiffness, right? It is encouraging to see the manufacturer making upgrades to the V2 bead to insure 100% UST compliance.
    I can't post links but if you check out post #435 in the carbon 29er rim thread someone has done some at home stiffness measurements of a couple of different rims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CamW View Post
    I can't post links but if you check out post #435 in the carbon 29er rim thread someone has done some at home stiffness measurements of a couple of different rims.
    I can post the link

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    Has anyone recently received a shipment notification?

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    Some more info from Nancy @ support, I've asked about 26 wide carbon rims:

    - The rims will be ready on May 15th.
    - Yes, it is tubeless compatible. Please find attached cross-section drawing.
    - The weight will be at 380g. If you like, we can make heavier version for large riders.
    - For warranty, it is one year. During this period, customers can get replacement rims if there is any quality issue under reasonable using.

    We will make two types of this rim. One is heavier for large riders, and the other is for light riders. So, if you like, you can order heavier version.

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    Got my first ride in on the wheel I built using the rim. The wheel rocks!! Set up ghetto tubeless using schrader valve and Maxxis High Roller tire. The tire seated immediately, no leaking or leak down or sealing issues. Out on the ride the bike hooks up and climbs awesome. No burping at all. Finally, a wide rim for the wide tires that I want to run for trail riding without the weight penalty. So far they are well worth it at killer price.

    I say be patient, it's well worth the wait.

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    Any chance of a few pictures?

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    gmats posted a bunch of pix earlier in this thread
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    Has anyone built a wheel set for their dirt jumper yet? I need a new DJ wheel set and was thinking I might give these a go on it.
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    I was looking at their carbon 26" wheelset...

    Quick math show that $300 for rims and $130 for the Novatec hubs they use get it pretty close to what you could build yourself for a decent XC wheelset. They sell them for $480.

    I'm not an expert on wheel building, but would you buy them build already or prefer to get them laced up by yourself or at the LBS ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David C View Post
    I was looking at their carbon 26" wheelset...

    Quick math show that $300 for rims and $130 for the Novatec hubs they use get it pretty close to what you could build yourself for a decent XC wheelset. They sell them for $480.

    I'm not an expert on wheel building, but would you buy them build already or prefer to get them laced up by yourself or at the LBS ?

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    That's a tough call as always. I've built all my own wheels for many years but by the time I end up paying for the parts and shipping on all the stuff (to Hawaii), it gets pretty expensive. However, guess I always know what I want when I build up a bike or parts for it (wheels). Therefore, it's a one time cost for me instead of doing many upgrades over and over after buying off the shelf stuff.

    If I were located in a more reasonable place, I'd be happy to build and teach how to build the wheels, it's actually not hard and just takes patience. After a few passes, building them becomes easier and easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macming View Post
    Mine! I had the Bontrager Rythem strip mounted initially, but it was next to impossible to mount a tire. So I ended up doing just a layer of yellow tape, and so far so good.

    The 'UST lip' on the Rythem strip is also pretty far from the tire bead. So by the time it catches, I think the tire would've already burped. I never run too low of a pressure, so I'll see how the yellow tape works.



    Looks awesome! Did you measure the ERD?

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    Mine! I had the Bontrager Rythem strip mounted initially, but it was next to impossible to mount a tire. So I ended up doing just a layer of yellow tape, and so far so good.

    The 'UST lip' on the Rythem strip is also pretty far from the tire bead. So by the time it catches, I think the tire would've already burped. I never run too low of a pressure, so I'll see how the yellow tape works.




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    Quote Originally Posted by pwu_1 View Post
    Looks awesome! Did you measure the ERD?
    Mine came out to be around 530mm. Which really surprised me. My mechanic measured the rims as well, and he came back with a similar number.

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    Anyone have any current updates if rims are shipping yet, after the new molds?
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    They are supposed to be ready the 15th per Nancy emailing me yesterday.

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    Sealant question. I have put a Rythm strip in my rear wheel, and about two cups of Stan, and my Captain tire does not seem to hold pressure overnight, even after a few rides. It does not deflate completely but gets down to the single digit psi. Anybody else having the same issue. Should I put a yellow strip first and the rythm strip on top?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zorg View Post
    Sealant question. I have put a Rythm strip in my rear wheel, and about two cups of Stan, and my Captain tire does not seem to hold pressure overnight, even after a few rides. It does not deflate completely but gets down to the single digit psi. Anybody else having the same issue. Should I put a yellow strip first and the rythm strip on top?
    Are you using tape first? If not you still need to tape over the spoke holes before using the rim strip.

    I would get the wider 21 or 23 mm tape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mestapho View Post
    Are you using tape first? If not you still need to tape over the spoke holes before using the rim strip.

    I would get the wider 21 or 23 mm tape.
    On the first rim, I did not use the yellow tape first. I will on the next one to see if it makes a difference.
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    shouldnt need stans tape under the rim strip

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    Check the tire bead for damage.

    When I mount my tubeless tires I always add the Stans, air up, do the whole shake thing and start rotating the wheel slowly under water. It's usually sealed right up, but I once had a pin hole in the sidewall that was a bit stubborn. To fix it I left the wheel that side down for a bit and it sealed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    shouldnt need stans tape under the rim strip
    According to Stan's you do:

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    Leave on your existing rim tape or install 1-2 layers of Stan's yellow Rim Tape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mestapho View Post
    According to Stan's you do:
    sorry, all i meant was yellow tape isnt required and has nothing to do with sealing, as standad tape will work and the strip should be sealing the interface, should have been clearer

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    Did you re-lace the i-9's yourself? If so, which stock rims did you replace and how did the ERD compare with the old alloy rims? I see you are using the straight pull aluminum spokes. Did you note inconsistencies in the wall thickness as reported with earlier builds? This would show up as irregular spoke lengths, in the case of I9, where the spokes thread into the hub flange. Others have noted that the standard nipples project at different lengths at the spoke holes due to the internal rim thickness differences at the spoke holes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mestapho View Post
    Are you using tape first? If not you still need to tape over the spoke holes before using the rim strip.

    I would get the wider 21 or 23 mm tape.
    Get the 25mm tape

    Quote Originally Posted by zorg View Post
    On the first rim, I did not use the yellow tape first. I will on the next one to see if it makes a difference.
    I'd put tape underneath. The Rythem strip I got moved around a bit. I'd feel more comfortable with the yellow tape underneath.

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    shouldnt need stans tape under the rim strip
    Quote Originally Posted by buggymancan View Post
    Did you re-lace the i-9's yourself? If so, which stock rims did you replace and how did the ERD compare with the old alloy rims? I see you are using the straight pull aluminum spokes. Did you note inconsistencies in the wall thickness as reported with earlier builds? This would show up as irregular spoke lengths, in the case of I9, where the spokes thread into the hub flange. Others have noted that the standard nipples project at different lengths at the spoke holes due to the internal rim thickness differences at the spoke holes.
    I got my LBS to do it since we have a pretty good relationship. I had a few other wheels built at the same time, and he only charged me $30/wheel with free truing later on.

    The original rim was a DT 5.1d (539mm), and the spokes JUST worked.

    The rim is definitely not perfectly round on the inside, and my mechanic mentioned the inconsistency as well. At the end of the day, he made it work, which I'm happy about.

    I think I got a bit lucky because the straight pull I9 spokes have much more range for error compared to a Jbend/nipple setup.

    The big ride is this weekend, but a quick ride around the block was very pleasant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macming View Post
    Get the 25mm tape
    Isn't the internal width 23mm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mestapho View Post
    Isn't the internal width 23mm?
    Yes, but there are curves you need to account for. I used the 25mm tape on mine, and I could've easily used a tape 2 - 3mm wider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macming View Post
    Yes, but there are curves you need to account for. I used the 25mm tape on mine, and I could've easily used a tape 2 - 3mm wider.
    Ahh, that makes sense.

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