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    2011 Easton EA90 XC

    Looking really hard at these wheels as I can get a good deal on them. Also looking at the 29er version. I wanted to get some input from anybody that has had a chance to try them out. As well, I am unable to find any info on rider weight limit. I weigh @ 190 geared up and I am wondering if this would be too much for a 1560g(claimed) wheelset. I ride mostly xc with only the 1-2' occasional air. These would be going on my Scott Scale 29er hardtail. Thanks for any input....
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    Be warned - I just opened up my box of brand new 26" EA90 XC's that were delivered, and contrary to the data at Easton's website and the info in all the press releases I read online, these wheels are NOT 21mm inside width. They are ETRTO 559 x 19, 19mm inside width. I'm VERY disappointed, as I would not have purchased these if I had known that. I don't need narrower wheels than what I already have. Easton's site even makes a point to differentiate between the 26" and 29" wheels, clearly stating tghat the 26" is 21mm and the 29" is 19mm.

    Otherwise, they look really sharp. However, I may not keep these because of the width.

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    CTB, when you are doing your measurement, are you measuring inside the bead channel, or just in side the leading rim edge?

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    I'm both measuring the inside of the rim edge and reading the ETRTO marking printed on the wheel. Every rim I've ever owned has matched the ETRTO measurement when checked against the inner rim flange. This flange is what determines the profile your tire will take; the increased width below it is for securing the bead and is common to all clinchers. All my 19mm rims (ETRTO) measure 19mm between the flanges; ditto my 17's and my 21's, from varying manufacturers (Mavic, Specialized). The 26" Eastons are 19mm inside width, not 21 as listed on the site. They are fully 2mm narrower than my Roval Traversees, which are ETRTO 559 x 21 and measure exactly 21mm between the flanges. I'm betting the 29er version is indeed 19mm, as listed at the site.

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    Well how about that. After I wrote to them on Sunday, Easton quietly changed their website data to be correct. The site now lists the width correctly at 19mm. That would have been nice to know before I dropped the cash on these...

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    Certainly not your fault, but I have noticed numerous manufacturers with errors in the spec sheets on new products. I think they just copy/paste when they make up the marketing sheets/web pages and some of the small details get missed sometimes. It takes a few months to fix.

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    they do look nice...

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    Ea90 Xc

    Did you get your question answered about whether this 29er wheelset would handle a 190 lb plus rider. I am also looking at this set and am about 200 lbs. Also, you mentioned you had access to to good deal on the set. I found them for $649 w free shipping on ebay. Have you found a better deal?

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    I wanted to put a good word in for Easton here. A few days after they fixed the info on the website, an Easton rep contacted me and offered to exchange my wheels for a set of new Havens with Easton picking up the tab on shipping. This exchange is in process right now, so Easton gets top marks for customer service! The EA90's would have looked extremely sweet on my bike, but I wanted the additional width of the Havens, as that is how wide my current wheels are and I like tire performance with wide rims. The new black Havens will also look pretty nice, I think. I'll post again once this is complete.

    Again, top marks to Easton for this.

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    Basically iy looks like the new easton wheel lineup is built off of the haven platform. The XC, haven, and havoc are all the same wheels just with different width rims and graphhics. this means they should all be light, stiff, and strong.

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    And no rim tape needed, which was why I went this way in the first place. Got tired of always having tape getting tweaked when changing tires,etc.

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    Final update: Easton made good and the Havens are in my possession. Can't wait to ride them in about 6 months when this place thaws out...

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    Cool! I also found out the differences between the 3 different wheels, is not only rim width and graphics, but spoke size/weight/strength, and rim wall thickness

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    $650 for a set? That sounds like a steal! I'm planning to upgrade my XC One and been trying hard to decide between a Fulcrum and the new EA90. Any idea where I can get a good deal on this new EA90? Thanks.

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    EA90 for $650

    I saw the EA90 29ers on ebay. I checked and they are still available for $649 w free shipping. Can't vouch for the seller since I have not bought from them. I ended up getting the Haven 29ers from my LBS for $650 plus tax so I decided to go with them. They are a little heavier but I am a heavier rider (200 pounds) and didn't mind paying the sales tax in exchange for buying local and for warranty issues. I put the Havens on my King Kahuna and have ridden them 4 or 5 times now and they are great. Best of luck.

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    I've purchased wheels from "quality_products." No problems at all, shipped fast, great price, brand new merchandise.

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    For those who have compared the Haven and this new EA90, are the bearings similar or does the EA90 roll noticeably longer when spun?

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    the ea90 and haven wheels use the same hubs

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    The internals are probably the same, though the hub housings/bodies are not.

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    how many engagement points does the easton hub has? i'm planning to buy the 2011 easton haven and their website doesn't state that info i think
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    I just ordered a set of the EA90 XC and while it's still in the mail, I found out about the Roval Control EL Disc which is only 1425gr and discounted to $530. Way lighter than the EA90 and also still tubeless capable though not UST but who cares about heavy UST anyway. You can even sacrifice 50gr and get the non Disc version of the Control EL which is at 1480gr (weighted at the store), still lighter than the EA90 and uses 24mm or 28mm endcaps that are compatible with Fox or Rockshox forks only but stiffer than 15mm thruaxle. Granted the finishing ain't as good as the EA90 but it's cheaper, stronger, and way lighter. Well to be fair compared to the Control EL, the front hub of the EA90 is slicker due to the standard 9mm, the endcap of the Roval doesn't feel as loose on the right side. So real world performance is still in the open. But Control EL Disc vs EA90... I'm leaning way towards the Roval...

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    Quote Originally Posted by doc-ock
    how many engagement points does the easton hub has? i'm planning to buy the 2011 easton haven and their website doesn't state that info i think
    It should be 30 points the same as the Haven though I could be mistaken... I spent an hour in the shop comparing it against Fulcrum Red Metal Zero which is way looser (no pawls) and smoother, and also CB Cobalt that didn't roll as freely.

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    I switched from Roval Traversee EL's to the Havens. The Traversees are lighter, but they require rim tape to run tubeless. Since they are a shallow wheel profile (like Stan's, who sued them), I found it impossible to remove a tire without screwing up the rim tape, so I'd have to retape the darn things every time I changed a tire. Eventually that annoyed me enough that I decided to go for a rim like the Havens/EA90's that have no holes in the inner wheel wall and a deeper drop well. Otherwise, I had no complaints at all about the Rovals, and I'm keeping them as my mud tire wheels, which will eventually have tubes in them.

    I don't know how many engagement points the Eastons have, but they do not seem to sound horrible and buzzy like Kings, etc. They sound quiet and normal (as do my 2008 Rovals). Having the new style of engagement wasn't important to me, so I didn't mind. In fact, I prefer not having the loud hubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTB
    Eventually that annoyed me enough that I decided to go for a rim like the Havens/EA90's that have no holes in the inner wheel wall and a deeper drop well. Having the new style of engagement wasn't important to me, so I didn't mind. In fact, I prefer not having the loud hubs.
    Correct, the only issue is having to use new rim tapes everytime you remove the tire. But how often do you have to do it once you go tubeless? The Rovals wouldn't be loud as they are using DT Swiss 240 hubs (with Spez outer casing) and DT Swiss Revolution spokes as well. Which is more incredible for $530...

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    When you run a Conti Race King Supersonic on the rear, you do it more than you think, esp since the stems Specialized uses don't have the removable cores to inject more Stan's. Thus you have to break the bead to add more sealant, and that narfs the tape. The Easton valves don't have removable cores, either, but I've come up with a trick to make Stan's universal valves work in them. Someday I may convert the Rovals as well, which would avert much of this issue, come to think of it.

    The Rovals were very quiet - I like the DT Swiss 240 hubs on them a lot. If they didn't need rim tape, I wouldn't have swapped 'em. And the price I got them for on Ebay was awesome.

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    You sure got me thinking about which wheel to use for the heavy duty all terrain offroad and a purely urban / touring wheelset. I might use the Rovals with the Toros and the EA90 with the Crows... The easiest tubeless setup I've done is on a Fulcrum.

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    I set up my new tire on the Havens easily SO FAR... I say that in caps because we're still under snow here, and I haven't been able to ride the tire yet. Some on the web have told me that the tire I've chosen won't hold air once I ride it, but I have faith. After sealing a Race King and Mountain King Supersonic on the Rovals, I'm hopeful that these won't be a problem. Tire has held air for over a week now, never having been ridden. The Havens were very easy to set up tubeless, and this job would be done if I chose a less porous tire.

    You can make either work, and I HIGHLY recommend figuring out your trick for making valves with removable cores work on whatever rims you choose, assuming you're going the sealant/tubeless route. Mavic stems are removable but don't fit anything but Mavics, it seems (I have those, too). Stan's universal works for shallow wheel profiles, but my RTV trick hopefully has done the job on these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTB
    You can make either work, and I HIGHLY recommend figuring out your trick for making valves with removable cores work on whatever rims you choose, assuming you're going the sealant/tubeless route. Mavic stems are removable but don't fit anything but Mavics, it seems (I have those, too). Stan's universal works for shallow wheel profiles, but my RTV trick hopefully has done the job on these.
    I'll try the Fulcrum valves on the Rovals and see if they fit. If not, I've heard that you need to put some thick grease at the hole on the rim tape so air won't leak out. I guess it's a problem of wanting to get the lightest tubeless configuration for cheap

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    I bought some automotive RTV, put a small bead around the rubber area on the valve stem, inserted it into the wheel and tightened the thumbwheel *loosely.* Then once the RTV set up, I tightened the thumb wheel all the way to make a stronger seal. Seems to have worked.

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    Excuse my ignorance ... but does the EA90 XC compatible with 28 mm end cap (for 9mm QR) ? If so, are they sold separately ?

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    I'd like to help, but I don't think I understand your question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTB
    I'd like to help, but I don't think I understand your question.
    In fact, I wish to equip my Spesh SJ with some EA90 XC, which normally come standard with "Roval Control Trail EL, alloy disc, OS 28mm end caps". Plus, reading Veda's comments, where he wrote "(Roval wheels) lighter than the EA90 and uses 24mm or 28mm end caps", I then became concerned with the EA90, because so much emphasis being put on the fact that the Roval have these oversize end caps ... and not the EA90 !!

    Thanks for your comments

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    Quote Originally Posted by whtdel
    Excuse my ignorance ... but does the EA90 XC compatible with 28 mm end cap (for 9mm QR) ? If so, are they sold separately ?
    EA90 XC only comes in either 15mm thruaxle or 9mm QR. The 24mm / 28mm End Cap QR styles are options only specific to thruaxle Roval wheels and are only compatible with Fox and Rockshox forks. Although they are considered adapters for standard forks to fit thruaxle wheels, they are actually stiffer than thruaxle due to the obviously larger surface contact area to the fork. There's the interview with Spez regarding the end caps describing why they're superior as tested in their lab...

    Anyway, having installed the Rovals with the tubeless ready Hutchinson Toro 2.15 tires using Stan's Sealant, was a very easy installation by the way, and just finished a 2 hour test ride a min ago, I hate to say it but I don't think the EA90 XC can beat these Rovals in weight, stiffness, and price. + the Rovals uses DT Swiss 240 hubs and Revolution spokes... downright the best buy wheelset you can buy as of today for a freakin $530! Which makes me wonder why I ordered those EA90's... damn!

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    Thank's Veda ... and for my knowledge ... what is Easton's end caps diameter for a 9mm QR ?

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    The EA90 XC just uses the regular 9mm QR teethed endcap. The old standard...

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    Spoke tightening on straight pull spokes on Easton EA 90 XC?

    I have a question re spoke tightening on straight pull spokes on Easton EA 90 XC 29'er wheels....

    I took my 2 week old 29'er Easton EA 90's to my local wheelbuilder as the bearing adjuster needed to be tightened (side play in the rear bearing after 100 km's !). I also asked him to retighten the spokes as I felt (and saw) a bit of increased flex at the rear wheel when accelerating....but here it comes:

    He couldn't tighten the spokes "as they are straight pull, and twist in the hub, and the nipples are stuck with loctite..." He certainly tried...but wasn't to impressed with the lack of servicabilty on these wheels...

    Any suggestions? What will I do when they need truing or a spoke replacement? I've spent $ 800 on these babies!

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    I had (have) the same issue on my XC Ones. I called and emailed and called. The Easton techs made it sound like the nipples should turn freely if you just held the spoke. I had to hold the spoke with pliers in some cases while I turned the nipple. But some just wound up the spokes no matter what I tried or how much lube I used. Easton said send them back. I did. They came back pretty much the same, as far as I can tell.

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    New question here.

    Quote Originally Posted by knl2stl
    I had (have) the same issue on my XC Ones. I called and emailed and called. The Easton techs made it sound like the nipples should turn freely if you just held the spoke. I had to hold the spoke with pliers in some cases while I turned the nipple. But some just wound up the spokes no matter what I tried or how much lube I used. Easton said send them back. I did. They came back pretty much the same, as far as I can tell.
    if they do use loctite on the nipples then youll need to use a HEAT GUN to heat the rim/nipple before you adjust/tighten the spoke....

    Quote Originally Posted by Veda
    I hate to say it but I don't think the EA90 XC can beat these Rovals in weight, stiffness, and price. + the Rovals uses DT Swiss 240 hubs and Revolution spokes... downright the best buy wheelset you can buy as of today for a freakin $530! Which makes me wonder why I ordered those EA90's... damn!
    where can i get the ROVALS for the same price as the EA90's ? sounds like a better all around wheel but google came up with way to many options... got a link to the ROVALS you speak of ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTB
    I wanted to put a good word in for Easton here. A few days after they fixed the info on the website, an Easton rep contacted me and offered to exchange my wheels for a set of new Havens with Easton picking up the tab on shipping. This exchange is in process right now, so Easton gets top marks for customer service! The EA90's would have looked extremely sweet on my bike, but I wanted the additional width of the Havens, as that is how wide my current wheels are and I like tire performance with wide rims. The new black Havens will also look pretty nice, I think. I'll post again once this is complete.

    Again, top marks to Easton for this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Variateur
    I have a question re spoke tightening on straight pull spokes on Easton EA 90 XC 29'er wheels....

    I took my 2 week old 29'er Easton EA 90's to my local wheelbuilder as the bearing adjuster needed to be tightened (side play in the rear bearing after 100 km's !). I also asked him to retighten the spokes as I felt (and saw) a bit of increased flex at the rear wheel when accelerating....but here it comes:

    He couldn't tighten the spokes "as they are straight pull, and twist in the hub, and the nipples are stuck with loctite..." He certainly tried...but wasn't to impressed with the lack of servicabilty on these wheels...

    Any suggestions? What will I do when they need truing or a spoke replacement? I've spent $ 800 on these babies!
    I called Easton on this as I observed the same issue on my Haven 29 wheels. The nipples are threaded onto the spoke but also into the eyelet in the rim. The tech said as long as one of those interfaces was turning you are good to go. Just put your free hand on the spoke up by the hub to make sure it is rotating and not just winding up and then unwinding when you take the spoke wrench off.

    Also, check out the wheel FAQ on their website. Don't mess w/ the drive side rear spokes when truing the rear wheel. Only use the non-drive spokes on the rear wheel. This has to do with the process they use to tension the rear wheel and the drive side spoke are under very high tension. I was told if you try to true using the drive spokes you risk stripping the nipple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qkenuf4u
    where can i get the ROVALS for the same price as the EA90's ? sounds like a better all around wheel but google came up with way to many options... got a link to the ROVALS you speak of ?
    I just found out today that my local Spez distributor marked the price for the Control EL with Control AL's price as the price of the EL didn't show up on their computer. So it was a mistake on their part but I already bought mine, and the good thing is even today they still haven't noticed that they put Control AL and EL side by side with the same price. So it's $550 which is the overly marked up price of the AL here (just like any othe Spez products the profit margin here is insane). Anyway, even with the dealer margin it's still way cheaper than the $750+shipping. I'm tempted to get another set just to resell. LOL!

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    This thread should have received an award for being the longest thread to never, not even once, address the question asked!

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