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    2 broken spokes in 6 months from Light Bicycle

    Should I be concerned? I do trail riding and did an enduro this month. So I'm not doing any insane riding or anything. I have the 35mm wide 27.5 wheels that were laced with hope pro 2 hubs by Light Bicycle. How many times should I bring in my wheel to have a spoke replaced plus or minus truing before I just redo the wheel? This is my first experience with broken spokes so I have no idea.I was willing to let one broken spoke go but two seems a bit fishy.

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    Re: 2 broken spokes in 6 months from Light Bicycle

    Did you re-tension the wheel after the first few rides? Check spoke tension regularly?

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    Spoke tension, yeah, a great place to start.
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    I'd be very suspicious of the build quality. If you have a reputable wheel builder in the area, have them take a look at it. If you're not an animal, then it's either crappy quality spokes, or a crappy build. Or both.

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    Its likely that your wheel was a crappy build from the factory and the shop fixing it just popped in a new spoke without tension balancing.(effectively making it worse)

    Thats the funny thing about Chinese carbon wheels. Some come out of the box great, and some come out are god awful. It really depends who the factory has working... Could be the guy who has been building bike wheels for years, or it could be a builders first day on the job.
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    I don't like unknowns. Pillar spokes are unknown to me. Therefore I wouldn't buy wheels built by light bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbum1 View Post
    Should I be concerned?
    I'd be... it was probably a crappy build from the start, and who knows what spokes were used.
    I'd probably de- and re-tension the wheel before I throw everything out and start over. But that'd be me doing the rebuilding, not paying someone to do it, and I'd be 100% sure of the end product.
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    stress relieve spokes

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92gli View Post
    I don't like unknowns. Pillar spokes are unknown to me. Therefore I wouldn't buy wheels built by light bikes.
    Well you better not trust DT Swiss or Sapim spokes either, they use the same Sandvic stainless wire as Pillar.

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    2 broken spokes in 6 months from Light Bicycle

    Quote Originally Posted by Ratt View Post
    Well you better not trust DT Swiss or Sapim spokes either, they use the same Sandvic stainless wire as Pillar.
    Same wire does not mean the finished product is the same quality.
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    2 broken spokes in 6 months from Light Bicycle

    Quote Originally Posted by Ratt View Post
    Well you better not trust DT Swiss or Sapim spokes either, they use the same Sandvic stainless wire as Pillar.
    I'm not sure the wire is actually the same. Sandvik makes more than one SS wire product.
    The rough stock is not the only factor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratt View Post
    Well you better not trust DT Swiss or Sapim spokes either, they use the same Sandvic stainless wire as Pillar.
    Spokes always fail at the points where DT or Sapim's factories would be forming/threading that wire, so I would say the manufacturing processes of those individual companies are more responsible than the company making the wire. If failures in the middle section of a straight gauge spokes were an issue then I could see the wire being a real concern, but that just isn't the case.

    One thing I can say for sure is that I see an astronomically high number of failures on Sapim spokes in comparison to DT.

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    I had spokes snapping on the drive side of my Novara '29er with factory built wheels. First couple replaced on warranty by REI, more snapped every 600 miles or so. Small LBS owner comment was: 29 inch wheels, machine built wheels, spokes snap. I eventually re laced the wheel entirely, no more snapped spokes. Most snappers were on the drive side (PITA to replace) and finally one or two on the non drive side. Replacement spokes were nothing special, REI stock stainless.

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    2 broken spokes in 6 months from Light Bicycle

    Quote Originally Posted by JSchmitz View Post
    Small LBS owner comment was: 29 inch wheels, machine built wheels, spokes snap.
    Typical oversimplification that is short on facts.
    Glad you got your wheel sorted.
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    Having worked on a few pairs of LB wheels I've noticed a few things.
    The spoke tension on their wheel builds is really high from the factory.

    To the OP I would like to ask if it was the spoke that broke or the nipple? LB use alloy nipples which are more sensitive to temperature change, I've had several where the 'head' of the nipple has snapped off so I've replaced the lot for brass.

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