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    Good job! Edmonton - Autumn 2012

    Great day for a ride. Trails super busy. Found the single track in Patricia Ravine, couple of near seat ejection moments on the trail, but only one bashed finger today.

    Not too hot, trails are nice and dry, and the weather's great!

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    With the opening of the new Jay Hoots designed Sherwood Park skills park last week, I finally made my way there last night. There was a lot of good work done and there is something for all ages and skill levels.

    If you haven't been there I recommend going and checking it out. If you are unsure of the location it is on Bethel Drive, which is located north of Baseline between Broadmoor and Sherwood Drive.

    What you can expect for features: pump tracks, dirt jumps, ladder bridges, log rides, skinnies, trials area, wall ride and more.

    Keep in mind this is newly constructed and just getting broken in so it is getting to be in rough shape as it gets packed and ridden. Next year the building crew will be back to put the finishing touches on. The biggest issues are the berms - the clay is coming off in chunks so it makes them quite rough. As the chunks fall off they break up at the bottom so the bottoms are soft. Even with that, it is definitely worth making a trip out and checking it out.
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    Felt more like spring today than autumn.

    Things learned on today's ride:
    squirrrels do not look both ways before crossing trails
    203 rotors have more power than 185s
    80% of Edmontonions on the trail are shocked that riders are still out
    36 spoked wheels are stiffer than 32 spoked wheels
    some people see you, but refuse to make room for you to ride by - playing chicken on the trails
    little kids think bikes are cool
    little kids have no depth or speed perception of approaching bikes
    parents are not in control of little kids at all times
    trails become "lost" when all the leaves are down on the ground
    sometimes it pays to say hi to a fellow rider, only to find out he's new to town and not sure where to go. A little follow the leader on some local trails followed.

    Mill Creek - passable, but pretty muddy still. Old Timer's Cabin - better leaf coverage than Mill Creek, so wet, but not too muddy. Same thing with Kinsmen area.

    If it wasn't for tonight's rain, the trails would have been in pretty good shape for tomorrow.

    Leaves everywhere:



    Trail good up to here, then mud:



    And more mud:





    Muddy, not tacky, but not slimey either:





    Post ride, pretty good for absence of mud all things considered:


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    Quote Originally Posted by jkirkpatri View Post
    Felt more like spring today than autumn.

    Things learned on today's ride:
    squirrrels do not look both ways before crossing trails
    203 rotors have more power than 185s
    80% of Edmontonions on the trail are shocked that riders are still out
    36 spoked wheels are stiffer than 32 spoked wheels
    some people see you, but refuse to make room for you to ride by - playing chicken on the trails
    little kids think bikes are cool
    little kids have no depth or speed perception of approaching bikes
    parents are not in control of little kids at all times...
    Where you bunny hopping kids? lol
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    Yesterday was muddy. Mostly multis used. Mill Creek was greasy and muddy.

    Mud below here:



    Beavers in action, hence the wire wraps on trees in the river valley:


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    Huh. I always thought those wire wraps were to protect from wear-and-tear from humans (while occasionally leading to wear-and-tear on humans...like the one nasty one in the middle of the CC course). I've never seen that much damage from critters all in one spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfangled View Post
    Huh. I always thought those wire wraps were to protect from wear-and-tear from humans (while occasionally leading to wear-and-tear on humans...like the one nasty one in the middle of the CC course). I've never seen that much damage from critters all in one spot.
    It's all those tree "dry humpers" that are killing the forests, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkirkpatri View Post
    Beavers in action, hence the wire wraps on trees in the river valley:

    You need big trees if your gonna dam the North Saskatchewan River.

    Little fella needs to learn to gnaw on the downhill side of the trees.

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    Trail conditions based on tonight's ride:

    Mill Creek - all good, couple of little puddles, but that's about it
    Upper Ewok - all good
    Mid Ewok - all good
    Trail from McNally to Rowland's Trail - all good
    Rowland's Trail - west 2/3 is all good, east 1/3 (just past the ladder bridge) has a couple of puddles, some slime, but generally good

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    I hit Keillor, Laurier, Mckinnon and Groat on the way home, and they're all in fine shape.

    Just built this one up last weekend:


    The frame replaced my tired Giant, but most of the other parts were a straight swap over.

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    So earlier this year one of the pinkbike guys spent a bunch of time digging on Victoria Secret. He added a few new lines, a gap jump, and a couple of berms. Then a month or two ago there was an older guy down there on the weekends filling in the jump and removing the berms.

    I ride through on the way home a few times a week, and I walk my dog through there a lot, and I've never had a problem with people sessioning that run. I can honestly say that I've seen more coyotes in that spot this year (2) than I have out-of-control-DHers (0).

    I realize that there's all kinds of people in this world, but spending your weekends undoing trailwork is just so weird.

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    You can't just randomly build trails on the City's property. There's been an enormous amount of work done with the City to be allowed to use the existing trails like we do. People who want to trail build really need to get in contact with the clubs and trail builders around town and work on maintaining the existing trails, rather than free lancing. Figure out which club is maintaining trails in the area you want to work, and talk with them.

    Someone just built a fancy new extension right across the river in full view of the city office. All that work, and the city will probably pull it out. It's a fun trail, but it will effect erosion of the river bank.

    Unsanctioned trail building is a great way to blow some of the good will that people have been trying to build between the mtb community and the City. So yes, the mtb community spending time removing trails is actually good for us, to keep us in the city's good graces.

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    And if it had been the City undoing the work I'd understand, but it was just some guy with a shovel. Having come across the chokeline on the groat rollercoaster earlier this year, I can't say I'm a fan of random dudes with agendas.

    edited to add: I wasn't even a fan of what had been done down there. I'm not a jumper, and they'd tried to block one of the pre-existing lines which was annoying. But the erosion excuse was not a factor down there at all. A bunch of other trails have been way more messed up in the last little while (what is going on with bobsled?) than the work down there.

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    Who knows who did it. Could have been some random person, or it could have been someone with the EMBA. Anyone doing free lance trail work really should talk to the EMBA before they start digging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfangled View Post
    I hit Keillor, Laurier, Mckinnon and Groat on the way home, and they're all in fine shape.
    Keillor road meaning in the trees next to the equine center or down low on the trail that follows the river? Looking to go west tonight instead of east and just wondering what section you were referring to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfangled View Post
    ...A bunch of other trails have been way more messed up in the last little while (what is going on with bobsled?) than the work down there.
    Yeah, Bobsled at night is an event when you're not expecting the built up ramps seemingly at every berm! I'm not complaining, just adds to the pucker factor when you're not expecting a launch pad at every turn!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkirkpatri View Post
    Keillor road meaning in the trees next to the equine center or down low on the trail that follows the river? Looking to go west tonight instead of east and just wondering what section you were referring to.
    The section by the equine centre still has the one boggy bit that's been there all year, but that's as wide as a freeway now so there's usually a way through.

    I haven't been on the really low section by the big slide in forever. The river has been really low for a month though, so it's probably as good as it gets.

    North of that between the slide and Hawrelak is good. If you haven't been there in awhile there's been some major erosion and undercutting on a few of the sketchier sections, so who knows how long they'll be around.

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    Okay, sounds good. Sunday that area was still wet, so with all this wind, and the river being low, it should be good.

    The lower section down by the river is always fun...unless it's wet. From the pedestrian bridge at Hawrelak, I usually stay low going west to the end of the equine center and then come back up through the trees going back home. I'll grab some pictures if I can get out tonight.

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    I usually skip the low area because it's way too much stop-and-go with my singlespeed. But I had gears today, so I went out at lunch. A little bit of mud (not much), a downed tree or two, and a few sections of collapsed trail - so it's basically as good as it gets.

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    Thanks for the update. There's a couple of sections that I usually walk - one is the super tight turn (handlebars too wide to squeeze through the trees) and the second is where the orange fence is on the ground, right before you climb the eroded trail. I don't remember any downed trees last time, other than the first big one at the start of the trail from the east side.

    Sounds like it's all good.

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    Lower Kiellor drop in looks good:



    Beach area not muddy or soupy:



    This chasm leads to an abrupt ledge fallout that is getting closer and closer to the trail. New orange fencing up as a warning:



    Pretty much dry and good to ride:



    Some nice colours up by the equine center:




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    Quote Originally Posted by jkirkpatri View Post
    This chasm leads to an abrupt ledge fallout that is getting closer and closer to the trail. New orange fencing up as a warning:
    Yup, not sure how long that section will last. Lots of roots to hold everything together, but not a lot of dirt left to actually hold.

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    Did keillor today because you mentioned it, i hope to be back on sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkirkpatri View Post
    Great day for a ride. Trails super busy. Found the single track in Patricia Ravine, couple of near seat ejection moments on the trail, but only one bashed finger today.

    Not too hot, trails are nice and dry, and the weather's great!

    West end of Canada Cup course. For reference, my bike is an XL with 29 wheels.
    Is this by the Valley Zoo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kavtor View Post
    You can't just randomly build trails on the City's property. There's been an enormous amount of work done with the City to be allowed to use the existing trails like we do. People who want to trail build really need to get in contact with the clubs and trail builders around town and work on maintaining the existing trails, rather than free lancing. Figure out which club is maintaining trails in the area you want to work, and talk with them.

    Someone just built a fancy new extension right across the river in full view of the city office. All that work, and the city will probably pull it out. It's a fun trail, but it will effect erosion of the river bank.

    Unsanctioned trail building is a great way to blow some of the good will that people have been trying to build between the mtb community and the City. So yes, the mtb community spending time removing trails is actually good for us, to keep us in the city's good graces.
    I agree that random trail building can be damaaging, but also, if it weren't for random trail building we would have no trails. As long as the trails are well built, out of sight and not conflicting with any of the eco-groups then the city has been embracing the work being done. As an active member working on maintaining the trails, we work on closing the trails the city dislikes and maintaining the trails the city approves of. EMBA has done some excellent work to date and gets more city support each year.

    As far as all the new lines with jumps, these are not things the city likes to see and they will be removed. Unfortunately with the closure of Rabbit Hill these kids have no where else to go. If the city opened their eyes to building a skills park similar to what Devon and Sherwood Park have already built we could solve a lot of the issues. There are enough users that a skills park would be well used and having a place geared towards these types of riders will significantly cut down on amount of new pirate trails being cut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhtopilko View Post
    Is this by the Valley Zoo?
    just east of the high level bridge (almost underneath it actually), south side of the river.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gord962 View Post
    just east of the high level bridge (almost underneath it actually), south side of the river.
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gord962 View Post

    As far as all the new lines with jumps, these are not things the city likes to see and they will be removed. Unfortunately with the closure of Rabbit Hill these kids have no where else to go. If the city opened their eyes to building a skills park similar to what Devon and Sherwood Park have already built we could solve a lot of the issues. There are enough users that a skills park would be well used and having a place geared towards these types of riders will significantly cut down on amount of new pirate trails being cut.
    There was a proposal to build a bike skills park and re-route/create some trails East of Kinsmen. Can't find the link but looked pretty promising. Haven't heard any updates, however.

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    ^ the big mound of dirt just east of the Walterdale was originally supposed to become an approach for a new bridge way back in the '60's. I think that's where the skills park was proposed, but now that the city is actually moving forward replacing the Walterdale nothing else is going to happen around there until the bridge is finished.

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    Saw someone on a Pugsley commuting on the highlevel this morning. Last year was basically a non-winter, but if we get a bunch of snow this year I hope that all the new fatbikes means a winter of nicely packed singletrack.

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    I'm hoping for a snow-free November, even though it's likely not going to happen.

    As of yesterday, West Coast Trail, Old Timer's, and Mill Creek dry (and hard!). No ice spotted, a bit cool, but still good riding conditions. Tonight's night ride likely to be cold with the clear skies we've got right now.

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    Got out last night for a couple of hours in Mill Creek and West Coast Trail. Trails are in super shape. A bit chilly (-5 Celsius) but better than what Calgary has right now.

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    I'm down south today, and I think the weather's inspired me to put the studs on one of my bikes this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkirkpatri View Post
    Got out last night for a couple of hours in Mill Creek and West Coast Trail. Trails are in super shape. A bit chilly (-5 Celsius) but better than what Calgary has right now.
    What do you wear for the cool weather?

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    ^ that comes up every year in the commuting threads, so here's my survival list:

    Long shell-type pants and fullfinger gloves all year (just personal preference)

    5C/41F - switch from shortsleeve to longsleeve jersey

    0C/32F - Add basic running/cycling shell jacket from mec. Add 3-in-1 poly balaclava which lets me leave my face uncovered if I want.

    -5C/23F - Add flip-top mittens over my fullfinger gloves. Add lightweight tights under shellpants. Switch to cheap, oversized hiking shoes with thick worksocks (I run platform pedals all year anyway).

    -10C/14F - Start using the 3-in-1 balaclava as an actual balaclava.

    -15C/5F - Switch from mitten/glove combo to Snowboard gloves.

    -20C/-4F - Add fleece sweater under shell. Switch light tights to fleece tights. Add second layer of worksocks. Add second liner to gloves.

    -25C/-15F - Add neckwarmer over balaclava. Use both the fleece tights and light tights. Use some old wool socks with the toes cut off as arm/leg warmers.

    -30C/-22F - Pretty rare so I don't have any specific gear, but I make sure to have some chemical hand/toe warmers easily accessible for emergencies.

    Last year I got some cheap ski goggles for days below about -25C/-13F. They were nice but always started icing up after 15~20 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhtopilko View Post
    What do you wear for the cool weather?
    Regular full fingered summer riding gloves. Hands are cold at first, but they always warm up.

    Full skull cap (I shave my head) with ear covers. CTR Mistral Vapor Skull Cap (Unisex) - Mountain Equipment Co-op. Free Shipping Available

    Sleaveless summer cycling jersey, full length autumn cycling jersey MEC Ardent Long-Sleeved Jersey (Men's) - Mountain Equipment Co-op. Free Shipping Available, and a nylon sleaveless vest MEC Pinna Vest (Men's) - Mountain Equipment Co-op. Free Shipping Available, although yesterday I used a full nyon jacket (no link, picked up at MEC on clearance last year.

    Regular spandex cycling shorts with full length leggings overtop MEC Roubaix Tights (Men's) - Mountain Equipment Co-op. Free Shipping Available, and if really cold, knee warmers underneath the full leggings as well MEC Calefaction Knee Warmers (Unisex) - Mountain Equipment Co-op. Free Shipping Available.

    Summer cycling shoes with plastic bags over the toes zip lock bag - Google Search and wool socks DeFeet Woolie Boolie Sock (Unisex) - Mountain Equipment Co-op. Free Shipping Available and those little feet warmers Heat Factory Toe Warmers - Mountain Equipment Co-op. Free Shipping Available. Now I have some dedicated winter shoes specialized defroster 2012 - Google Search.

    Nothing special. The coldest I've ridden was -8 degrees. Maybe this year I'll try riding up to -12 degrees. My biggest issue is that my toes always get cold. Even with the new shoes and wool socks, I still need the feet warmers to keep my toes warm. My fingers don't have any issues. Go figure.

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    Thanks for the links!!

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    Hey jkirkpatri... Finally! How long ago did we talk about this?
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    ^ Finally found it! Long time coming!

    Got out today for a couple of hours. Random shots:









    About 20 metres down the trail from Sherijumper's entrance shot:


    Beavers will take on any tree....


    Even if it's too big to use after it's been felled.


    Things you find in the middle of the trees....



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    ^ I just got back too, and it looks like we covered a lot of the same stuff, but I don't think I saw you. That giant tree the beavers took down was pretty ambitious.

    So what's the deal with Sherijumper's trail? I guess it's by Roland drive...by I don't think I've been on it or recognize the railing?

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    I went through the area under the south end of the high level/U of A at 4. Nice area now. The 780 mm handlebars have helped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkirkpatri View Post
    ^ Finally found it! Long time coming!

    Got out today for a couple of hours. Random shots:



    Things you find in the middle of the trees....
    Are these from below Mcnally and towards the Muttart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkirkpatri View Post
    Regular full fingered summer riding gloves. Hands are cold at first, but they always warm up.

    Full skull cap (I shave my head) with ear covers.
    Nothing special. The coldest I've ridden was -8 degrees. Maybe this year I'll try riding up to -12 degrees. My biggest issue is that my toes always get cold. Even with the new shoes and wool socks, I still need the feet warmers to keep my toes warm. My fingers don't have any issues. Go figure.
    I bought that cap and a balaclava today from mec. Wore the balaclava today, very comfortable. Fingers cold in my mechanixgloves.

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    [QUOTenewfangled;9821799]^ I just got back too, and it looks like we covered a lot of the same stuff, but I don't think I saw you. That giant tree the beavers took down was pretty ambitious.

    So what's the deal with Sherijumper's trail? I guess it's by Roland drive...by I don't think I've been on it or recognize the railing?[/QUOTE]

    From Dawson bridge, go up the hill to McNally on the sidewalk and right before the paved trail intersection, there's a drop from the paved sidewalk into the trees (drop is west). That's the trail. It links up to Rowland trail further west. The trail basically follows the golf course. I told Sherijumper's about it back in July and he finally found it today. If I get out tomorrow am ill take a pic of the trailhead entrance

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    ^ cool, thanks. Everytime I do the loooooong, paved climb from the Rowland trail up to Ewok I wonder if there's anything on the sides. There are all the short little drop-in trails on the uphill side of the paved trail, but I didn't know there was something below it.

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    I hope to check it out tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhtopilko View Post
    Wore the balaclava today, very comfortable. Fingers cold in my mechanixgloves.
    I really like these in this type of weather:


    I wear them overtop of my normal riding gloves (which is key, since otherwise my fingers would freeze), and I think I got my pair at Mark's Work Wearhouse for $15. Usually I keep them open, but if I start to get cold or I'm on a long paved stretch I can wear them like mitts for a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhtopilko View Post
    Are these from below Mcnally and towards the Muttart?
    East of Mcnally heading towards Gretzky drive
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkirkpatri View Post
    ^ Finally found it! Long time coming!

    Got out today for a couple of hours. Random shots:
    What time were you out? There was a single track in the snow when I was there. You? I was there around 10:30.
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    I was out around 1 p.m. 3 p.m.

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    I will probably try this after work Saturday 3:30. I hope to do Hinton on Sunday if it isn't too muddy.

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    We're into the season of bait-and-switch weather forecasts. This coming saturday was supposed to be 9. But wait - now it's only supposed to be 0. But now Sunday is supposed to be 11! But wait - tomorrow the forecast will change again!

    I'm glad that I managed to get a good, long ride in on my new hardtail last weekend. I think it's probably done for the year, and I'll be on my winterbikes for the next 5 months or so.

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    Hinton got a foot of snow. I'll be riding in town Saturday and Sunday

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfangled View Post
    I'm glad that I managed to get a good, long ride in on my new hardtail last weekend. I think it's probably done for the year, and I'll be on my winterbikes for the next 5 months or so.
    Yeah, "regular" rides look to be done this year. Too bad as last year we were riding into November without snow and two (three?) years ago it was into December.

    I think I'll be doing weekend rides only from here on out, and those weekends might be hit or miss.

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    Sunday, I hope to ride longer than an hour, so I am looking for better options than Terwillegar.

    Saturday I will try the ride that was just mentioned going back to wayne gretzky. I may take it to goldbar, then closer to Esso refinery then to the Science park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkirkpatri View Post

    Things learned on today's ride:
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    little kids have no depth or speed perception of approaching bikes
    parents are not in control of little kids at all times
    Oh God, that is SO true. As a parent of a little kid, I can tell you there is no way to control them all the time! I think people who do not have kids or aren't around them much don't realize this. I had one lady ream me out about not controlling my kid after she and another biker had a near miss on the pathway because of a bad decision my son made. I was riding right behind him and he ignored my instructions. Well, she and the other rider were adults and also have a responsibility to look out for danger and stay in control, just like I have a responsibility to teach my kid safe riding.

    I don't live in the Edmonton area so I haven't ridden the trails mentioned in this thread, but I think that one person's "trail building" is another person's "vandalism." I think it would be fantastic for kids to have skills parks to do jumps, but I have knocked down jumps and filled the holes back in when the dumb-heads have built the jump by digging a hole right next to the single track in order to put a jump in the middle of the established single track. The hole is ugly and dangerous for people who aren't used to a jump being there and maybe would like to avoid it - endo right into the hole a definite possibility.

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    Too much snow. Just tried by mcnally school.

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    Anybody else having fun?


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    No. Withdrawal

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    Thinking about it for this Sunday. You are a braver man than I to be riding these past few days!

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    Honestly, if I wasn't commuting I probably wouldn't be riding. The temperature is decent, and it's nice to be out, but conditions are pretty iffy. Wednesday was actually phenomenal and might be the nicest storm I've ever ridden through, but the extra snow since then is just shifting around on top.

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    If there is hard packed snow, it would be worth riding.

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    Great day for a ride:



    Stay...good bike:









    Time to turn around:



    River Queen is taking a beating, the ice flows are moving pretty fast:



    Bridges are treacherous. The snow moves and shifts underneath you.



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    Today was the first day that I managed to make it out again, and things were much better than last week.

    The worst stuff I rode was actually the residential areas like Crestwood and Glenora on my way home. Other than that I took the mups from downtown to Dawson, up Roland hill (to discover the trail that jkirkpatri and sherijumper were talking about a few weeks ago) down the paved mup, and back around riverside on the lower trail which was pretty slow. Middle Ewok was good, and then the only singletrack I took was the not-quite-a-pumptrack on the southside of the river by the Mckinney park bridge. Took the doubletrack by the oldtimers cabin and then mups through to mckinnon.

    So yeah, it was easy to put a nice route together, but almost none of the singletrack was broken in enough to ride on - I'd hoped some of the fatbikes around would start tackling that stuff by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfangled View Post
    I'd hoped some of the fatbikes around would start tackling that stuff by now.
    There are some fatbikes out and about. Ride report here.
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    ^ that was the two of you on the white pugsleys - I think I saw you on Victoria promenade?

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    Did my usual central loop today, and rode a lot more singletrack than last week. Was the first bike on some of the stuff around shaw and the riverboat, but on the Canada Cup course I was following the fresh tracks of at least 2 fatbikes and a few other bikes. Between that, the x-country skiers, and general traffic I'd say the CC course is pretty rideable - any sort of climb is iffy, any sort of downhill probably means dabbing a foot for stability, and even the flat sections are a lot of work, but it's doableish.

    The best singletrack I was on was the one above Mckinnon on the southwest. It was in fantastic shape, and I was able to maintain a pretty decent speed. Bobsled has some footprints but no obvious biketraffic, which is probably for the best but is also kind of surprising.


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    Sounds great. Good reconaissance. I did some riding around home today. Concrete bike trails in the burbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfangled View Post
    Bobsled has some footprints but no obvious biketraffic, which is probably for the best but is also kind of surprising.
    Where is Bobsled? I'm sure I know of it just not the name...

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    ^ bobsled, or bobsleigh...I can never remember. But it's the "downhill" run on the northside of Mckinnon ravine. People have gone crazy there this year with building, and jumps, and new lines, so I'm surprised that nobody has been out enjoyed their new handywork in the snow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfangled View Post
    ^ that was the two of you on the white pugsleys - I think I saw you on Victoria promenade?
    Quite probably. I don't think there are enough fatbikes in the wild here to be forming random packs. Yet.
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    The central trails were great today. Last week I'd met a x-country skier on the CC trail by the old timers' cabin. I was struggling a bit, so he was able to be quite a bit faster (and a lot more consistent) than me. If I'd bumped into him again this week it wouldn't even have been a contest - that section was firm and fast and you could just fly through there. Most of the cc trails were like that, through past the university and mckinnon. I forgot to try riding down the gallagher park toboggan hill, though

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    No exciting updates from me - still commuting, but wasn't able to hit the trails much this week.

    Just saw this in the journal though:

    Queen Elizabeth Park to be rejuvenated

    EDMONTON - The century-old Queen Elizabeth Park is about to undergo a facelift, with proposals for expanded trails, art, a mountain-biking course and a new toboggan hill.

    A draft master plan released by the city last month envisions the North Saskatchewan River valley park east of the Kinsmen Sports Centre as an accessible, well-connected gathering place providing great views of Edmonton’s skyline...

    There are also plans for a mountain-bike skills area that might feature moguls, teeter-totters, rails and jumps, although design won’t start until at least 2015.

    It might also include parts of a nearby 1950s sewage treatment facility slated for demolition, Norman said.

    “There was great support to having the bike skills park there, I think because of the single-track trails that already exist in the river valley … People (don’t) have to drive down.”
    More details from the city:
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    Looks like the skillspark would go where the big grassy hill currently is (Dantzer's Folly), and in the city compound that's down there. So some of the existing singletrack would get altered. But of course none of it's going to happen until the new Walterdale bridge is finished.

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    Some of the clubs sent out emails to get riders to attend the open house a few weeks back to give support for the skills area. The redevelopment might help move out some of the people that join up in the park at night for drinking, drugs, etc. I kind of seeing this as a long term development plan that'll take a while to get going. When it's all said and done, it could be a success or an area to avoid when riding the trails (due to congestion). I'm thinking it'll be an area to avoid myself.

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    ^ I'm not worried about trail congestion. I'll just ride the skinnies when it's -20C out.

    I really would love to be able to practice jumps on some tabletops, though. The various ghetto gapjumps that I've seen scattered around the rivervalley scare the crap out of me. I'm going to have to make an effort to hit the Devon or Strathcona bike parks next year...even if it means all the kids there will laugh at me.

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    A bike skills area in edmonton would be nice, but the Sherwood park one isn't too far.

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    Looks like we're losing a popular section of trail:

    Photos: Trees come down near Walterdale Bridge



    With the replacement of the Walterdale bridge that whole middle bit of the former CC course is probably going to be pretty messed up for a few years.

    Walterdale Bridge :: City of Edmonton

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    January 7, 2013 - The area around the existing Walterdale Bridge will be affected by construction activities for the new bridge, including trail closures and detours. Portions of Queen Elizabeth Park, Kinsmen Park and the area around the EPCOR generating station will be affected. To ensure public safety, please stay away from the closed areas during construction.

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    Saw that on the Journal last night. That's quite the detour they are taking. Some good trails closed for two and a half years! Ouch!
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    Yeah, I forgot to put a link to the detour map:

    http://www.edmonton.ca/transportatio...Detour_Map.pdf

    Luckily I was able to go through there a few times during the holidays. It will be missed.

    And I guess that means I should stop checking if the path around the power plant is finally open again, because it's not gonna be for a long time.

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    Other trails will get more use. maybe a little more trail building will result.

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    Anybody use a garmin 500 or 800? I am curious about GPS ability in the river valley.

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    I use a 500. No issues with the GPS. Doesn't do mapping, but I didn't need that feature. I'd buy it again.

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    That was what I was leaning towards, with the heart rate monitor as well. I am looking for speed and mapping history that I can refer back to.

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    Bought the edge 500.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfangled View Post
    Yeah, I forgot to put a link to the detour map:

    http://www.edmonton.ca/transportatio...Detour_Map.pdf

    Luckily I was able to go through there a few times during the holidays. It will be missed.

    And I guess that means I should stop checking if the path around the power plant is finally open again, because it's not gonna be for a long time.
    Wow, just saw this. This is shitty news - that section will likely be altered significantly by the time it's reopened. It was one of my favourite shorter sections of trail in town...

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    Yeah, they've had excavators building out into the river under the bridge already. Should be interesting to watch during the big spring breakup.

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