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    Two kinds of micro front AC hubs?

    I purchased six AC front hubs. I weighed all of them and noticed three of them were significantly heavier (65.6, 65.6 and 65.8g) than three others (57.1, 57.1 and 57.2g). The heavier ones have also "Braxxo Classic" logo instead of "American Classic". Besides the weight difference Braxxo hub has a little bit different axle end (see pics) than American Classic.

    So guys please help me. What is "Braxxo Classic"? The separtate manufacturer from AC?? Or just a new name used by AC??

    thanx in advice
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    My guess is they are knock-offs. Ive seen fake Chris King, Thomson, and a few other high end companies coming out of Taiwan and other places.
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    braxxo is the german AMC importer. never mind, these are quality hubs. the lighter ones are the '05 models, while the braxxo hubs are the '04 models.

    i believe the main difference beside the weight is that the newer ones are sealed differently or so...


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    good post!!

    do the heavier ones come with a built in greaser?

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    no, they dont have any grease ports. they got normal industrial bearings, the axle ends are plugged-in


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    nm,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max
    no, they dont have any grease ports. they got normal industrial bearings, the axle ends are plugged-in
    if i'm not completely wrong older Amclassic series hubs had the grease port. at least i have a 68g Micro WITH and one withou grease port.

    the newer 2005 model weighs 58g

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    i believe there were even older models that DID have grease ports indeed. or were those available as upgrades?


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    ok, it seems to prove what i suspected:
    http://www.amclassic.com/Technical.html

    there are tutorials how to change the grease port hubs to fully sealed ind. bearings and vice versa


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRedMantra
    My guess is they are knock-offs. Ive seen fake Chris King, Thomson, and a few other high end companies coming out of Taiwan and other places.
    More info, please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max
    braxxo is the german AMC importer. never mind, these are quality hubs. the lighter ones are the '05 models, while the braxxo hubs are the '04 models
    thanx
    now everything is clear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max
    no, they dont have any grease ports. they got normal industrial bearings, the axle ends are plugged-in
    I have the old one (65g) with normal sealed cartridge bearings and plugged-in axle ends...it's great! I see the slight difference in the above pics but is the '05 model basically the same design?

    Is the '05 model less stiff or less reliable? If not, I wonder how they would save the extra grams.

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    havent had the chance to try the new ones due to an injury, but i doubt there are big differences in the feel. i suppose the weight savings come from the different axle-ends that seems to have undergone some machining. also, what might be more important, the new ends are bolted into the THREADED axle. ergo they are stiffer?


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    2005 has ends that screw in with a hex key rather than press in. Keeps from having too much side load on the bearings from overly tight skewers and the ends can't get crooked as easily. 2005 also uses 688 bearings instead of R4 size. And of course they are 10g lighter.

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