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    Syntace P6 hiflex

    Has anyone seen the Syntace P6 Hiflex in stock anywhere in the US?

    At this point in time I would settle on the regular P6 but can't seem to find one for sale in 27.2x400mm either.
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    Is that what it's called? The all carbon one? The all carbon post is taking forever to be released. I was going to ask this exact question.

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    End of july!!!

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    Yeesh.

    and then you have to wait and see if the reviews are any good. It's not light...

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    After being in contact with Syntace since November and waiting patiently, I got mine through some connections last Thursday.
    I ordered Tuesday in Germany and on Thursday it was here, incredible!!!
    Quite possibly the only and first Hi Flex in the US.
    31.6x400

    I can't really tell much about the flexing, because my bike has been a construction site for over a year, so the last time, I rode a Ritchey WCS Superlogic.
    I also haven't been able to go offroad yet, but the clamping mechanism is truly awesome!

    The bad news is, the shipment they've gotten in January didn't pass the quality test and has been destroyed, the new shipment, what they just got in April, is all gone, because they are behind now.
    They are also re-establishing distibution in the US, so I don't know if universalcycles and others will continue to get them, but I assume most likely, I checked all my emails, I can't find the email and webaddress of the new US distributor, otherwise I would have posted it here, to help.
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    QBP lists the Syntace "Full Carbon", but none are currently in stock (P/N 103979, 104051, & 104020).

    Yellowbook, you forgot to tell us the weight!
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    There should be two pictures, one from the web and one with the actual post on the scale
    Is it not showing?

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    OK, I see it, but if it's not showing for others, here attached.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Syntace P6 hiflex-imag0121.jpg  


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    It is not.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yogii
    It is not.......
    Still not!?
    I attached it in my last post, I even see both. The last one should definitely show, because I uploaded it to mtbr.

    EDIT: If still not...weight is 203.6g in 31.6x400.
    Syntace is very consistent, I've seen others on the scale all coming in at 204g in that size.

    http://www.light-bikes.de/website/ne...6-sattelstutze

    34.9 mm – 211 g (480 mm)
    34.9 mm – 198 g (400 mm)
    31.6 mm – 205 g (400 mm)
    30.9 mm – 206 g (400 mm)
    27.2 mm – 212 g (400 mm)
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    Contrary to expectations I got this yesterday.
    30,9 x 400mm



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    puzzles me why the 27.2 x 400 is heavier than the 30.9 x 400? ...but still 212g is 17g lighter than the same sized P6

    so the benefit of this post is apparently it has more flex than a carbon P6 but still just as strong - so a hardtail would be more comfortable

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    It seems the 34.9 diameter is only available in 480mm length, which is complete nonsense. Who on Earth needs a 480mm long seatpost? 99.99% of the people don't. If I buy a brand new seatpost, I'd rather not have to cut it.

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    I've been riding one for a month now. Quite a difference from riding the old one. It smoothens the ride a lot. Can only say it does what it was designed to do.

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    I wanted this post as well as a syntace bar...but could never find a good source for them in the US. Where are you all getting these?

    Thanks for info...

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    Got mine from Germany. Global consumer in a global economy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by collideous
    Got mine from Germany. Global consumer in a global economy!
    Do you have a link for the site you got this from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfer1
    It seems the 34.9 diameter is only available in 480mm length, which is complete nonsense.
    Who on Earth needs a 480mm long seatpost? 99.99% of the people don't. If I buy a brand new seatpost, I'd rather not have to cut it.

    http://www.liteville.de/t/22_30.html
    This brand is part of Syntace and their frames geometry require longer seatposts.
    When their frames get bigger in size s,m,l,xl....they actually get longer, but seattube length increases very little,
    also the seatpost needs to be inserted at least to the bottom of the toptube-seattube weld.
    You can always cut your 34.9 to any length you want/need.

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    Trying to argue your point based on that picture is plain ridiculous. The top tube of that frame is way too short for someone who needs to have the saddle that high. That person should have gotten a larger size frame.

    Besides, this is the first time I've heard of Liteville. 34.9 is the seatpost diameter used mainly by Scott. Who would want to pair a 900g Scale 899, RC or Premium frame with a 249g seatpost?

    This is supposedly their light version of the P6 seatpost. The unnecessary extra centimeters don't make it really light though. I've seen a picture of the 34.9 x 480mm seatpost on a scale. Its actual weight is 248,5g, not 211g as claimed on their site.



    If they stand by their decision, people like me, interested in replacing the not-so-light Ritchey WCS Carbon seatpost that comes with the Scott Scale frames, won't consider their product as an alternative. They're losing their target buyers here.

    If I needed to use a 480mm long seatpost with a Scott frame, it would mean that frame is at least one size too small for me. I haven't heard of a single person -who got the correct Scott frame size- that needed a 480mm long seatpost. If they want to offer only one length option, 400mm would make a lot more sense. From a commercial perspective, it's nonsense to aim to fill the demand of the maybe 1% of people who need a 480mm long seatpost, instead of the other 99%. Don't tell me that the other 99% can cut their seatpost to the desired length (which, by the way, would mean losing the minimum insertion markings). Most people don't want to cut the 178 € (245 USD) carbon seatpost they just purchased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pernfilman
    Do you have a link for the site you got this from?
    Looks like most shops already sold what they received. Bike-Discount.de, Bike-Components.de, BikeDiscount.com as well as HiBike.com are pretty much sold out.
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    One more thing. Very tall people are usually heavier than the recommended maximum weight for a weight weenie carbon seatpost anyway.

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    No offense sfer1, but you seem to be making a really big deal about something that's not that big of a deal. Cutting your seat post isn't hard at all.

    It would be even dumber of Syntace to NOT make a seat post long enough for THEIR frames..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03rBXr4qX1o
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    Quote Originally Posted by sfer1
    Trying to argue your point based on that picture is plain ridiculous. The top tube of that frame is way too short for someone who needs to have the saddle that high. That person should have gotten a larger size frame.......
    I tried to simply show you something and explain it to you, there is no need to be rude.
    And btw, that frame is a size Large.

    The picture is not to argue my point, I never argued about anything here in this thread.
    It was simply to show you a Liteville frame.
    There are also people (like me) who ride one size smaller than recommended, so if you would see my bike, you might tell me it's too small for me and my seatpost sticks out too long and my stem is too long. Anyway....

    Again, Liteville frame sizes are very different from most other manufacturers Geometry and trust me, there have been hard arguments about this in other forums, even to the point where liteville themselves joined in, because they got criticized for wrong and stupid frame design.
    If you are tall and ride a liteville frame, you will need a 480mm seatpost and that's what those are for.
    And then again, you can cut it to any length you want.
    But I don't see people riding a Scale 899 frame with a syntace seatpost, because there are definitely lighter ones out there.
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    The 2011 Scott Scale RC and Premium frames come with Ritchey WCS Carbon 34.9 x 400mm seatposts (actual weight: 230-240g).

    A 34.9 x 400mm Syntace P6 HiFlex would have been a lighter alternative.

    Of course, there're lighter ones (MCFK, AX Lightness, Schmolke) out there, but they're quite more expensive and probably not as durable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfer1
    The 2011 Scott Scale RC and Premium frames come with Ritchey WCS Carbon 34.9 x 400mm seatposts (actual weight: 230-240g).

    A 34.9 x 400mm Syntace P6 HiFlex would have been a lighter alternative.

    Of course, there're lighter ones (MCFK, AX Lightness, Schmolke) out there, but they're quite more expensive and probably not as durable.
    A weird move by Scott, but maybe they have a deal with Ritchey. Putting those seatposts on a frame that light is almost a sacrilege.
    Some Scale riders I know, just use a woodman with a shim.
    That's then almost as light as Schmolke for a third of the $$$ and it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfer1
    If I needed to use a 480mm long seatpost with a Scott frame, it would mean that frame is at least one size too small for me. I haven't heard of a single person -who got the correct Scott frame size- that needed a 480mm long seatpost. If they want to offer only one length option, 400mm would make a lot more sense. From a commercial perspective, it's nonsense to aim to fill the demand of the maybe 1% of people who need a 480mm long seatpost, instead of the other 99%. Don't tell me that the other 99% can cut their seatpost to the desired length (which, by the way, would mean losing the minimum insertion markings). Most people don't want to cut the 178 (245 USD) carbon seatpost they just purchased.
    Something I wanted to add here.
    This 480mm seatpost is really only for liteville frames. No roadie will ever need that or any MTBiker. So, of course no Scale rider needs that and if then their frame is way to small.
    Bigger Liteville frames though are longer overall, so top tube length will meet your needs for your size, but their seattubes increase very little on bigger frames.

    But I think it's just cheaper for Syntace to roll these out in one length out of the factory.
    Yes, some people are afraid of cutting their brand new high $$$ seatpost, but if you buy that size and you know from the get go, that you only need 400 or 350, I don't see it being a big deal cutting your 480 down to that length.

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    Any updates on when the HiFlex will be available?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axis II View Post
    Any updates on when the HiFlex will be available?
    I ordered mine out of Germany a few weeks back, It is expected to be shipped to me next week I believe.

    Nothing available stateside yet., that I have seen.

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    31.6 x 400 in stock now:

    Universal Cycles -- Syntace P6 Full Carbon Seatpost

    Use "VIP10" to take another 10% off.

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    What are the weight requirements for a 31.6 x 400 Syntace P6 FULLCARBON HIFLEX. I'm 200 pounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogdaysunrise View Post
    31.6 x 400 in stock now:

    Universal Cycles -- Syntace P6 Full Carbon Seatpost

    Use "VIP10" to take another 10% off.
    This is the standard carbon version and not the hi flex.

    Any more information on availability of the hi flex Syntace post?
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    I know that's the standard one. ^^^^ But i'm interested in the FULL CARBON one.

    Syntace Full Carbon P6 31.6 x 400mm Seatpost | eBay

    So does any one know if there is a weight requirement of the rider? I'm 200 pounds.
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy102 View Post
    So does any one know if there is a weight requirement of the rider? I'm 200 pounds.
    Thanks
    Quick google search finding the Syntace site reveals:

    "The Syntace P6 seatposts are for use with mountain bikes and road bikes. Syntace P6 seatposts can be used for on-road and off-road use up to a rider weight of 130kg."

    Since you and google are clearly not friends, that converts to 286 pounds.
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    I found the same information, ( Syntace site) but its almost hard to believe that an aluminum seat post can have the same weight requirement as carbon! !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy102 View Post
    I found the same information, ( Syntace site) but its almost hard to believe that an aluminum seat post can have the same weight requirement as carbon! !!!
    Umm, why?
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    Don't have an answer to that ^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy102 View Post
    Don't have an answer to that ^
    I meant why would you think that. It makes perfect sense to me that the aluminum and carbon posts would have the same weight requirements.
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    27.2 X 400mm still not available on Universal Cycles. Has anyone been able to source a 27.2 elsewhere yet?
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    Hey sfer1, go bother the Spaniards or the Argentinian, im the troll here, this is my kingdom, so stop ********ting please or I will kick ur arse...

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    Universal Cycles has this in now in 27.2 x 400mm for anyone that's waiting. I'll post more when I get mine in next week.
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    Are the "full carbon" and "high flex" the same model? Syntace only shows one version on their website, so I'm assuming they are on in the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ktm520 View Post
    Are the "full carbon" and "high flex" the same model? Syntace only shows one version on their website, so I'm assuming they are on in the same.
    That's the way I read it. There is the P6 alloy head version and the all-carbon "hyflex" version that Universal now finally has in after the season is practically over. The pic on Universal's site matches this one on the Syntace site:
    http://http://www.syntace.com/index.cfm?pid=3&pk=2033
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    I couldn't help but notice that the declared weights have been changed from:

    34.9 mm 211 g (480 mm)
    34.9 mm 198 g (400 mm)
    31.6 mm 205 g (400 mm)
    30.9 mm 206 g (400 mm)
    27.2 mm 212 g (400 mm)

    to:

    34.9 mm - 232 g (480 mm)
    34.9 mm - 219 g (400 mm)
    31.6 mm - 214 g (400 mm)
    30.9 mm - 213 g (400 mm)
    27.2 mm - 226 g (400 mm)

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    Now it's officially a heavy post. The only reason to buy it is if you want the flex and a solid mounting head.

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    Ordered one last night. Weight is a non-issue for me. I've been wanting to try a "highflex" post for awhile. Anxious to see if it takes the edge off the hardtail for 4hr+ rides, just hope its not a wet noodle.

    Just tried my first set of lighter weight carbon bars (salsa pro moto flat) and wasn't impressed by the supposed "big increase in damping". Which is why I still laugh when I read some of the rave reviews of carbon this or that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ktm520 View Post
    Just tried my first set of lighter weight carbon bars (salsa pro moto flat) and wasn't impressed by the supposed "big increase in damping". Which is why I still laugh when I read some of the rave reviews of carbon this or that.
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    This I know. That crack was more about highly subjective reviews than a slam on carbon.

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