"We have sold quite a few, and haven't heard anything bad back from anyone. The disc ones are 1420'ish, and the non disc are 1260'ish. But as with anything the extra weight loss is at the expense of strength. It depends more on your riding style more than anything. If you are a smooth rider you should be fine. I'm 150 and I destroy anything lightweight in the wheel dept. because I'm not smooth or talented."
I am a tad heavier but I like to climb with my single speed. I guess they can work for me. Any opinions?
"We have sold quite a few, and haven't heard anything bad back from anyone. The disc ones are 1420'ish, and the non disc are 1260'ish. But as with anything the extra weight loss is at the expense of strength. It depends more on your riding style more than anything. If you are a smooth rider you should be fine. I'm 150 and I destroy anything lightweight in the wheel dept. because I'm not smooth or talented."
I am a tad heavier but I like to climb with my single speed. I guess they can work for me. Any opinions?
I think I may buy them. If I do I will post a review. However, I ride a 18.5ld single speed with a carbon front fork. No north shore drops for me. Thus, my review wont cover every riding style.
Please, post a review, if you get them. Is cambria claiming they have them in stock? Their website says "7-10 days"......which I take to mean "not in stock".
BTW, my single speed is roughly 19lbs right now. I can shave a 1lb with these wheel sets and another by running Ritchey Z-min tires. I just bought my 1st full suspension and I realized I like the simplicity and responsiveness of a light hard tail. Its listed on Craigs list; 2007 Mongoose Canaan Elite. Pass it on. I don't know why I am telling you this but I have been sick for a month now and I am going crazy!:madman:
This is an email I got from Sun. I asked them if they no longer make the Black Flag.
Hi Robert, that is not true if you go to www.sun-ringle.com click on
MTB then wheel sets XC you can find our Black Flag and Black Flag Ceramic
wheel sets. So spread the word we are still making this wheel set.
Cheers,
This is an email I got from Sun. I asked them if they no longer make the Black Flag.
Hi Robert, that is not true if you go to www.sun-ringle.com click on
MTB then wheel sets XC you can find our Black Flag and Black Flag Ceramic
wheel sets. So spread the word we are still making this wheel set.
Cheers,
I've been looking for these wheels for two years now and can not find them either. Great to see them in disc now. I am 190 and break everything I touch so I am looking forward to trying these if I can find them. If I find them I'll post a review this summer. If anybody finds a set send me an email. In the meantime I'll probably holler at Sun Ringle/Hayes in the comming weeks.
As you all mention they have been terminally unavailable for at least two years...WTF Hayes Bicycle Group? Stop "acquiring" every small company that's not nailed down and make some GD parts!!
I think they are always back ordered that's why noone has them in stock. I put an order in at Cabria and they shipped several weeks later.
I am currently having problems with them. I had to send them back to Hayes. The weld that joins the ends of the rims together can be felt along the rim surface. This shouldn't be a problem for those that buy the disk rim. Anyhow, the brakes "stuttered" when applied and they squeeled like crazy. I should get them back soon. I will keep everyone posted.
P.S. They weighed in at 1376g not sub 1300g as advertised.
The point being that all these places stock them. Sun have said they do indeed still make them so would it need anything more than to phone one of the places and ask them to order a set in?
I think they are always back ordered that's why noone has them in stock. I put an order in at Cabria and they shipped several weeks later.
I am currently having problems with them. I had to send them back to Hayes. The weld that joins the ends of the rims together can be felt along the rim surface. This shouldn't be a problem for those that buy the disk rim. Anyhow, the brakes "stuttered" when applied and they squeeled like crazy. I should get them back soon. I will keep everyone posted.
P.S. They weighed in at 1376g not sub 1300g as advertised.
I am roughly 175lb right now. I can get all the way down to 150lb when I am in peek condition. I currently have these wheels on my SS. I have a rigid carbon fork. I basically ride uphill and smooth on the down hills. No jumping or bonzai downhills for me.
Musta got 'disappeared', there are no reviews posted for Blackflags.
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