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    Suggestions on a Superlight 20mm/10mm wheelset?

    Hey bike nuts!

    so i'm building up a yeti, and just got a Mag30/Atomic hub wheelset. after the yeti's done, i think it'll be about 30-31 lbs. but this will be my freeride and XC bike, so i want a light light wheelset to get it down to 28 or less.

    Any suggestions on rims? i'm going to be running a Fox 36RC2 front with 20mm, the yeti has a standard 135mm 10mm rear Atomlab hub. tire and tube suggestions are welcome. and yes, i do plan to run helium into the tires. that will save 23.48432 grams. (has anyone done this?? lol)

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    I'm using Mavic XM321 rims and am very happy with them. You could also consider the new Syncros DP28 rim. It'┬Ęs about 35g ligther than the mavic.

    My wheelset is build up with the Mavierick hub and a CK rear hub with funn bolts and then Revolution spokes. Very stiff. I would recommend Michelin latex tubes. I have never had a puncture on them and they roll much better than a butyl tube, but don't go bigger than 2.2" tires. Don't know about tires. I use Specialized Enduro Pro 2.2" in the winter, but I will be running my Hutchinson Python Air Lights when the trails drie up.

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    try stans at notubes.com, he has a nice freeriding rim, heavier than the xm321's, but still not bad, and they would be very stiff. lace those up with dt swiss revo 14/15 spokes (2.0/1.8) and youll have yourself a pretty decent wheelset.
    i dont really know too much about 500+g tires, but you should run stans notubes in it

    btw, get that fata$$ porn outta here lol

    and helium leaks out of the tube and tire too fast
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    Alrighty then....

    Quote Originally Posted by full_xtr_racer
    try stans at notubes.com, he has a nice freeriding rim, heavier than the xm321's, but still not bad, and they would be very stiff. lace those up with dt swiss revo 14/15 spokes (2.0/1.8) and youll have yourself a pretty decent wheelset.
    i dont really know too much about 500+g tires, but you should run stans notubes in it

    btw, get that fata$$ porn outta here lol

    and helium leaks out of the tube and tire too fast


    thanks for the tips....so, 321's are good lightweight rims, eh? i want something like 17/19 spoke, with a 3 hole rim.

    That porn may be fat, indeed.....but you think you the only one riding XTR? BOOYAH, GRANDMA!

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    32 hole CK ISO disk / DT Swiss 14\15 spokes / Sun rhyno lite / Stans NoTubes.

    There are lighter rims but I like a 2.3 or larger on the FR\XC bike. Got to have some rim width to hold the fat tires.

    http://weightweenies.starbike.com/li....php?type=rims

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evel Knievel
    32 hole CK ISO disk / DT Swiss 14\15 spokes / Sun rhyno lite / Stans NoTubes.

    There are lighter rims but I like a 2.3 or larger on the FR\XC bike. Got to have some rim width to hold the fat tires.

    http://weightweenies.starbike.com/li....php?type=rims

    EK

    Cool, thanks for the link. almost forgot about that site! I already have a freeride/dh set that will run 2.5 or larger tire. On the XC set, i'll run no larger than a 2.2 tire. i'll probably be going with Stan's rims, and maybe these hubs:

    http://www.tune.de/tune_gb/index.php...yp=4&nr=12&e=1

    anyone have experience with these? they're light, 149g, and 20mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misctwo
    Cool, thanks for the link. almost forgot about that site! I already have a freeride/dh set that will run 2.5 or larger tire. On the XC set, i'll run no larger than a 2.2 tire. i'll probably be going with Stan's rims, and maybe these hubs:

    http://www.tune.de/tune_gb/index.php...yp=4&nr=12&e=1

    anyone have experience with these? they're light, 149g, and 20mm.
    I am running a Stans rim set with CK ISO disk hubs. They are XC/Race only. A 2.2 will fit nicely on them. The CK's can be converted to 10 and 20mm axles. Never weighed the set , but they are freaky light.

    IMO the CK hubs are worth the money. They are light and will last till I die. Likely to be relaced to rim after rim. They are XC light and DH tough. Not really worth it to me to mess around with something a gram or 2 lighter if they don't last, ie American Classic. Also after riding CK's the instant engagement make all others feel sloppy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evel Knievel
    I am running a Stans rim set with CK ISO disk hubs. They are XC/Race only. A 2.2 will fit nicely on them. The CK's can be converted to 10 and 20mm axles. Never weighed the set , but they are freaky light.

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    hey evel-how much did those stan's rims cost you? i know the CK hubs are mad pricey, don't think i can pull that one off without the wife having a fitt.... but they are 9mm, covertible to 20mm? thing is, i have a 20mm fox 36 on the way, and i want to run two sets of wheels, one full dh/fr and the other, superlight xc. and obviously the 9mm with 20mm convertible would be ideal...any suggestions on that??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evel Knievel
    I am running a Stans rim set with CK ISO disk hubs. They are XC/Race only. A 2.2 will fit nicely on them. The CK's can be converted to 10 and 20mm axles...
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    Sorry. The ISO Disc hub can not be converted to a 20 mm through axle.
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    Not sure what you consider "superlight" or "XC".

    A reasonably light and strong build would be 32 hole Hope Bulb hubs (180g/375g, front is switchable from 20 mm to 9 mm), Syncros FLR DS23 (440g) or DP25 (514g) rims and Sapim CX-Ray spokes with alloy nipples (~304g/64). 1739-1887g
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    Sorry. The ISO Disc hub can not be converted to a 20 mm through axle.

    Great site there. lots of rubber porn. i like that. question though; the panaracer dart made it to the top 20, when the smoke didn't? wtf??

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    Sweet....how about this?

    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    Not sure what you consider "superlight" or "XC".

    A reasonably light and strong build would be 32 hole Hope Bulb hubs (180g/375g, front is switchable from 20 mm to 9 mm), Syncros FLR DS23 (440g) or DP25 (514g) rims and Sapim CX-Ray spokes with alloy nipples (~304g/64). 1739-1887g
    I guess "superlight" I mean around the 1500-1700 g range for a wheelset; and that obviously superlight wheelsets would be used for XC. Now i'm about to reach a higher level of bike geekdom here....

    Rim Stan's ZTR 355 32h 354
    Spokes DT Revolution 2.0-1.8 127
    Hub Tune King Kong 20mm 163
    Nipples DT alloy 9.5
    Tube
    Tire

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    Rim Stans ZTR 355 h 354
    Spokes DT Revolution 2.0-1.8 127
    Hub AtomLab bolt on 32h 414
    Nipples 9.5
    Tube
    Tire


    1558 grams, without rimstrips, tire, tube.

    I figure this will run me about $400-$450 retail. any suggestions ? those hopes would probably be a good alternative(not sure about that 'tune' hub). These weights were taken off weightweenies....

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    I would scope out the DT swiss 20mm front hub. It weighs about half as much as the atom lab one you posted above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misctwo
    I guess "superlight" I mean around the 1500-1700 g range for a wheelset; and that obviously superlight wheelsets would be used for XC. Now i'm about to reach a higher level of bike geekdom here....

    Rim Stan's ZTR 355 32h 354
    Spokes DT Revolution 2.0-1.8 127
    Hub Tune King Kong 20mm 163
    Nipples DT alloy 9.5
    Tube
    Tire

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    Rim Stans ZTR 355 h 354
    Spokes DT Revolution 2.0-1.8 127
    Hub AtomLab bolt on 32h 414
    Nipples 9.5
    Tube
    Tire


    1558 grams, without rimstrips, tire, tube.

    I figure this will run me about $400-$450 retail. any suggestions ? those hopes would probably be a good alternative(not sure about that 'tune' hub). These weights were taken off weightweenies....

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    The Revolution 1.8-1.5 spokes are that light. I would not use them on disc wheels. The DT Competition 2.0-1.8 is 191g.
    I use the CX-Rays and they are very good. The 304g I posted is the actual weight of my spokes and nipples (64).

    $400-450? Not at retail.

    A 1600g wheelset seems out of character for the overall build of your Yeti.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    The Revolution 1.8-1.5 spokes are that light. I would not use them on disc wheels. The DT Competition 2.0-1.8 is 191g.
    I use the CX-Rays and they are very good. The 304g I posted is the actual weight of my spokes and nipples (64).

    $400-450? Not at retail.

    A 1600g wheelset seems out of character for the overall build of your Yeti.

    This wheelset is for my yeti, but it would be used only for longer xc trips, not shuttling.
    do you have weights on your site? if you do, i didn't find them..

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    Quote Originally Posted by misctwo
    This wheelset is for my yeti, but it would be used only for longer xc trips, not shuttling.
    do you have weights on your site? if you do, i didn't find them..
    The weights are on the spec charts, both claimed and actual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by misctwo
    Great site there. lots of rubber porn. i like that. question though; the panaracer dart made it to the top 20, when the smoke didn't? wtf??

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    I never cared for the Smoke. The Dart on the other hand changed the way I rode a bike. Cornered like no tire before it.

    They were not released as a matched pair. The Smoke came first. The Dart a couple of years later (the first ones were called "Smoke Dart").
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    Quote Originally Posted by misctwo
    hey evel-how much did those stan's rims cost you? i know the CK hubs are mad pricey, don't think i can pull that one off without the wife having a fitt.... but they are 9mm, covertible to 20mm? thing is, i have a 20mm fox 36 on the way, and i want to run two sets of wheels, one full dh/fr and the other, superlight xc. and obviously the 9mm with 20mm convertible would be ideal...any suggestions on that??
    I was told mine were convertable. I do wish to use them as 20mm in the future. Here Jenson is selling them 20mm .

    http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product.aspx?i=HU707B12
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    Quote Originally Posted by misctwo
    hey evel-how much did those stan's rims cost you? i know the CK hubs are mad pricey, don't think i can pull that one off without the wife having a fitt.... but they are 9mm, covertible to 20mm? thing is, i have a 20mm fox 36 on the way, and i want to run two sets of wheels, one full dh/fr and the other, superlight xc. and obviously the 9mm with 20mm convertible would be ideal...any suggestions on that??
    They were about $750. As of now they are QR. But I had specified that they be 20mm compatible.

    Sorry even my forgiving Wife had a fit. (-;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evel Knievel
    I was told mine were convertable. I do wish to use them as 20mm in the future. Here Jenson is selling them 20mm .

    http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product.aspx?i=HU707B12
    The King is not convertable. They do sell a 20mm obviously, but it's a completely different hub.
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    Too bad...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ventanarama
    The King is not convertable. They do sell a 20mm obviously, but it's a completely different hub.
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    Too bad they don't make a 9mm QR-axle for the 20mm hub, now that they make a custom 24mm axle for the Maveric-forks. And maybe make it Fun Bolt-compatible when they're at it... I'd buy several in a heartbeat!


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    CK? what about this??

    Quote Originally Posted by Ventanarama
    The King is not convertable. They do sell a 20mm obviously, but it's a completely different hub.
    Larry Mettler
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    I saw a wheelset with Quando, yes you heard me, Quando hub front, XT rear, and Singletrack pair for sale, $150. Not light by anyone's measure, but anyone hear of the Quando's? I hear they have a bad rep....confirm/disagree?

    their website on hubs is here:

    http://www.ktgroup.net/p05.html

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