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    Spark prices

    £1949 for just the Spark LTD frame over here in the UK (not the bike, just the frame)
    so what, maybe $3000-4000 in the US ?

    available around dec/jan

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    $3,000 for the Limited, $2,800 for the 10. I'm not sure if the Seatpost comes with the 10 frame or not. If it doesn't, there's not much of a price difference at all.

    Correction: $2,250 for the Limited, not sure about the 10 but it should be a couple of hundred less.
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    The 10 does not come w/ the integrated seatpost.. and it's a bit lighter because of it (at least according to Scott's website
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    These guys are totally crazy... 3000 euro for a frame...
    Do you know the Addict LTD price? 10300 euro!!!!

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    Totally ubsurd. I'd be hesitant to ride a frame of that price. Of course it will be obsolete in a year. I'll pass on the Spark.
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    That is stupi and so overpiced I can't even beleive it. I don't care if the frame was 500g! That price for a bunch of plastic!

    SCOTT seems to be doing nice things with CF and their Alimunum bikes ride nice, but that pricing is just STUPID!!!
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    a little less...

    Quote Originally Posted by scapin
    These guys are totally crazy... 3000 euro for a frame...
    Do you know the Addict LTD price? 10300 euro!!!!
    it's 2800 euro including 16% german Tax...so it really costs 2350 euro = 3000$
    still a lot of money but you get what you pay for

    when i go to Specializeds website i see the Epic S-Works carbon costs 3800$...
    http://specialized.com/bc/SBCBkModel...id=06SWorksMTB

    for every additional dollar the Epic costs more you get an additional gram as well

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    No, you DON'T get what you py for with that SCOTT. It's overpriced period. Unless it was custom and hand-made, maybe.

    The Spec Epic is also overpriced not matter what it's weight.
    if your in the US, the Epic is cheaper due to shipping costs, might be easier IF you need a warranty and it's a PROVEN platform.

    The Spark might knock our socks off, but we must wait until the general public rides them. At those prices, it might be a while. Same with the Epic CF..
    I asked a LBS who sells a TON of Specilaized bikes and pishes them about the Epic CF sales. Basically flat at the currect pricing.
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    sorry, triple post
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    Quote Originally Posted by nino
    it's 2800 euro including 16% german Tax...so it really costs 2350 euro = 3000$
    still a lot of money but you get what you pay for

    when i go to Specializeds website i see the Epic S-Works carbon costs 3800$...
    http://specialized.com/bc/SBCBkModel...id=06SWorksMTB

    for every additional dollar the Epic costs more you get an additional gram as well
    And what about the 10300 euro for the Addict?

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    That's even more crazy!

    I think you can get a Custom Calfee for less?
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    For me these guys think that the people are stupid...

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    If this thread is any indication my guess is that Scott has priced themselves right out of the market with the Spark in much the same way that Specialized has done with their top end FS frame. We all spend a great deal of money here on our addiction. If it's crazy expensive for us then the market is indeed very small. If the price dropped by 1/3 I MIGHT consider it. Remember, this is a new and unproved design so far. At this rate I predict Scott will be out of the US market again before long unless they can get the pricing down to earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scapin
    And what about the 10300 euro for the Addict?
    If you pay 2900 euro for the frame, 2500 euro for the wheels, 1500 for the group you get to 6900 euro. Why those other 3400 euro?

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    Are we talking about prices in the U.S., Europe or both? I'm not sure about Europe but in the U.S. it seems that the Spark frame price is on par with the ASR-L and the Truth while being way cheaper than an S-works Epic.

    Anyway, I hope it's a good bike because I put a deposit down on a Limited frame last weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcb
    Are we talking about prices in the U.S., Europe or both? I'm not sure about Europe but in the U.S. it seems that the Spark frame price is on par with the ASR-L and the Truth while being way cheaper than an S-works Epic.

    Anyway, I hope it's a good bike because I put a deposit down on a Limited frame last weekend.
    So, are you saying you put down a deposit on a frame that you didn't know what the final price would be? A Truth and Yeti ASR-SL frame can be found under 2 grand. 3000 Euro is well above that. Are you saying that you were able to buy a Spark for around $2000 US?
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    I'm not sure about the price thing. I've seen 3-4 different Specialized carbon epics this year at local amateur races. So SOMEONE is buying these things.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Axis II
    So, are you saying you put down a deposit on a frame that you didn't know what the final price would be? A Truth and Yeti ASR-SL frame can be found under 2 grand. 3000 Euro is well above that. Are you saying that you were able to buy a Spark for around $2000 US?
    No and yes. I do know the final price and it is around $2000. $2099 to be exact.

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    if that spark

    Quote Originally Posted by dcb
    No and yes. I do know the final price and it is around $2000. $2099 to be exact.
    frame is only 2100 then its a killer deal, isnt the carbon epic frame 3800 retail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcb
    Are we talking about prices in the U.S., Europe or both? I'm not sure about Europe but in the U.S. it seems that the Spark frame price is on par with the ASR-L and the Truth while being way cheaper than an S-works Epic.

    Anyway, I hope it's a good bike because I put a deposit down on a Limited frame last weekend.
    So, are you saying you put down a deposit on a frame that you didn't know what the final price would be? A Truth and Yeti ASR-SL frame can be found under 2 grand. 3000 Euro is well above that. Are you saying that you were able to buy a Spark for around $2000 US?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcb
    No and yes. I do know the final price and it is around $2000. $2099 to be exact.
    Well, that's not unreasonable. That's in the ballpark. I wonder why such high prices in Europe then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axis II
    Well, that's not unreasonable. That's in the ballpark. I wonder why such high prices in Europe then?
    I really don't know either. The first price I was quoted locally was much higher and I wasn't going to buy one. In fact this thread made me go back and look closely at my receipt closely to make sure I was actually in line for a Spark!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcb
    I really don't know either. The first price I was quoted locally was much higher and I wasn't going to buy one. In fact this thread made me go back and look closely at my receipt closely to make sure I was actually in line for a Spark!
    Well, either they cut you a good deal (like wholesale cost!) or something is fubar. $2099 seems too good to be true but who knows. What did they give you for an ETA on the frame?

    edit: I just did a search and found that it's going for $3423.00 US in the UK! Ah.....that's way off $2099.00. I like your bike shop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axis II
    Well, either they cut you a good deal (like wholesale cost!) or something is fubar. $2099 seems too good to be true but who knows. What did they give you for an ETA on the frame?

    edit: I just did a search and found that it's going for $3423.00 US in the UK! Ah.....that's way off $2099.00. I like your bike shop.
    The complete bikes are supposed to come out around the new year with the frames coming in a little after that. They are supposed to know more after Interbike.

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    Tax !

    Quote Originally Posted by Axis II
    Well, that's not unreasonable. That's in the ballpark. I wonder why such high prices in Europe then?
    because in europe all prices already INCLUDE tax!
    unlike the states where shown prices are'n what you pay...in certain countries that's up to 20% tax already included in the prices.

    like i wrote above:
    the german price is 2800 Euro including 16% Tax.

    i can't believe those 2000$.

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    Nobody reply me about these stupid prices...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nino
    because in europe all prices already INCLUDE tax!
    unlike the states where shown prices are'n what you pay...in certain countries that's up to 20% tax already included in the prices.

    like i wrote above:
    the german price is 2800 Euro including 16% Tax.

    i can't believe those 2000$.
    I'm aware of the VAT but the difference between 2099 US and the Euro pricing is way beyond what taxes would add. BTW, we can avoid taxes in the US by purchasing from an out-of-state source online. We have state sales taxes here and no national sales tax like the VAT, yet.... You guys get taxed to death BUT you also have some tangible benefits to show for it as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scapin
    Nobody reply me about these stupid prices...

    OK, here's a personal reply: I agree the prices are stupid. Feel better.
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    It's a robbery... who buys these bikes is a moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scapin
    It's a robbery... who buys these bikes is a moron.
    well - to save 800g elsewhere costs probably more

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    I repeat again: why 3400 euro en plus??? For a pair of tires, a saddle, a stem and an handlebar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nino
    well - to save 800g elsewhere costs probably more
    I think 800 grams is overstating the savings, Nino for many other good dually's. The Extralite's F1 is much less then a pound heavier and is much less money. IF the 2000 US amount is accurate (I really doubt it is) then we have nothing to ***** about.
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    I finished paying for my frame today not because I had to but because I was afraid the deal I was offered would disappear. This thread had me that worried about it. Now I have my "paid in full" receipt so I think I'm good to go as soon as the frame comes in early next year.

    I understand the skepticism regarding the price. So, if anyone is interested I'll pass along the name of the shop if you PM me.

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    Gee, Spark looks alot like RM Element!

    Scott copied a good design, the Element is still one of the lighter frames out there. Especially with Ti kit. Haven't priced one lately but I'm sure you could buy the element frame and lots of light goodies for same price as Spark.

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    Screw the Spark, how about them Contessa Girls, what a bunch of hotties!

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    well...

    Quote Originally Posted by CactusHead
    Scott copied a good design, the Element is still one of the lighter frames out there. Especially with Ti kit. Haven't priced one lately but I'm sure you could buy the element frame and lots of light goodies for same price as Spark.
    there's lots of this designs out there.

    the Element is close to 2500g. that's as much as a Scott Spark and a Scott Addict frameset together. this is the save some weight forum...

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