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    Rocky Mtn. Vertex Build 20ish lbs!

    Sorry guys ll post in "light weight bikes" thread as well, but I wanted some feed back to!

    Just finished my rocky mtn build:
    Vertex 970 frame (med)
    Full XTR
    RaceFace Next sl cranks
    SID World Cup Fork
    ENVE bar and Stem
    Formula R1 Brakes
    DT 240 hubs Crest rims
    ESI Grips
    Easton Seat Post (enve is out of 27.2 posts untill october )
    Fizik Tundra 2 Carbon

    Came in at 20.5 lbs with pedals, cages, "heavy chain" and garmin + (mounts/sensors)

    Thinking about some Ti bolts maybe different tires to try and get sub 20lbs...? suggestions? non off set enve seatpost will help some to.

    And yes I feel like a kook because I forgot to align my tire logos with valvestems/rim logos.. i was in a hurry to ride of course.
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    Nice! Why the green grips? Enjoy it and let us know how those cranks last.

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    thanks. just a fan of green no reason really. haha are these cranks not the most long lasting cranks!?

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    Ive been riding on a set of those cranks... you wont have any problems with longevity...

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    The cranks had problems 2 (?) years ago with broken chanring tabs. It seems to be fixed.

    but if you have problems let us know.

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    Nice build. Definitely get some light tires.

    Frame looks very similar to the Chinese Carbon 29er

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    There were some issues with the first batch of the Next cranks several years ago. Not with the Next SL triple, let alone with the Next SL 2x10. I don't know why some people keep bringing this up.

    I really like your bike, CRFed_surfer. Well, except for the green grips. Black, grey or even red ones would look better.

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    That is still a very light bike. You could go with a lighter wheelset but other than that id just ride it and enjoy it.

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    cut the steerer tube. lighter wheels (ztr gold). lighter saddle.

    anyway how do you like the frame ? can you compare it to other frames you rode ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slashy View Post
    cut the steerer tube. lighter wheels (ztr gold). lighter saddle.

    anyway how do you like the frame ? can you compare it to other frames you rode ?
    His wheels are much better than the ZTR Gold 29er with those flimsy rims and mediocre 3.30 hubs.

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    The only thing I would really change is replace the pedals for the Eggbeater 11's and swap the easton seat post for an Enve when it becomes available. GREAT bike!

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    thanks for the feedback guys..

    can't really compare the bike to any other 29er frame. this is my 1st 29er and 1st carbon bike. my other hardtail that I was racing is a steel frame 650 bike which I love, it's back to single speed duty now tho. this bike handles so much better, despite having larger wheels. everything about the bike is snappy and quick, obviously I feel the lightness of the bike at every turn and uphill but the bike is just tits!

    I might move to a racing ralph in the front in search for more traction (very scared if losing my front end in a dry turn, I ride fast ha) but I can't say I'm disappointed with the ikons tho they stick pretty well.
    I am waiting to cut the steer tube until I get my non offset enve post just incase things change with my fit, doubt they will but you can't take that stuff back ya know.
    I've have put on a lighter chain to.
    I'm pretty comfortable with the seat but what would be a lighter option?

    I might lace up a set of enve hoops, not so much for the weight (10g more per hoop than crests I believe) but for a stiffer feel and longevity. plus I'd feel comfortable running butted spokes with the carbon rims and maybe 2 cross on the front also saving weight. dam expensive tho.

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    Nice bike, CRFed_surfer. Regarding the tires, I don't see the EXC hotpatch, so I assume they have 60 tpi casings. You can drop around 60g per tire by going to the 120 tpi versions (although I wouldn't recommend if for the rear if you live / ride in a rocky area). And when the tires break loose, it's a pretty predictable drift, so just keep your fingers on your rear brake and you'll be fine.

    Otherwise, I'll echo bikerboyj17's comments about the pedals and seat post. You can go with Ti bolts on the rotors and stem, and aluminum on the brake levers, shifters, derailleurs, and bottle cages without worry. But most importantly, enjoy your bike. It's easily on the level of professional world cup athletes', so ride it!

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    super awesome bike. Planning to get a 2013 vertex myself, either the top of the line 999 rsl or the 990 rsl.

    weight-wise, I would change or consider the following

    -are you tubeless? (cheap)
    -light seatpost collar such as KCNC (cheap)
    -light saddle such as tune/smud/merek or cheaper alternative with an ebay carbon saddle at 100g, does it for me (expensive/cheap)
    -140mm rear rotor? (cheap)


    I wouldnt bother with light tires especially if you are racing. I prefer a little bit of weight there and be able to finish my races. The maxxis Ikon exo are very good and not that overweight.

    Since im an uber-weight weenie, I would remove all wheels decals, but thats just me...

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    Has the new 2013 Vertex shown up online yet? I haven't seen anything about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by limba View Post
    Has the new 2013 Vertex shown up online yet? I haven't seen anything about it.
    nope not yet, but I have all the spec from the top 3 vertex models. I live in a town with a RM factory and have a few contacts there

    nope, I wont give any insights, the catalogs should come out next monday















    high spec 999rsl and a bit down spec 990 rsl :P

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    No worries. I figured they would show up soon.

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    I just got my hands on the 2013 Vertex 999 and holy crap is it light!!!
    I don't have a scale to give it an exact weight but wow!!

    I also have the 970 Vertex and the frame rides like a dream!! This is my first thru-axle on the rear and tapered steer tube bike and it tracks like nobody's business in the rough stuff! I had a carbon trek superfly ss and this rides much stiffer than the trek. This could be because of the two mentioned aspects from above though.

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    Yeah the 999rsl must be light with those spec!

    Imagine how light it can go with light handlebar stem seatpost and saddle!

    What are those dt x1.4 wheels??

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    Hmmm, they're already available? Does the high end Vertex still have XX brakes? What crank does it come with?

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    hey limba, they're not available yet. Since the catalog is coming out shortly, I think I'd leak some info

    full XX
    sid WC
    oem dt wheels
    race face components

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    single speed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRFed_surfer View Post
    single speed!
    How did you tension the chain, or is it a "magic gear"?
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    oddly enough a magic gear, didn't even have to use my chain tensioner

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    About your fork SID WC RCT3, can you enlighten us a bit around how you use it ?
    do you activate the 3 position lever a lot, or did you manage to find settings so you can keep it in 1 position ?

    maybe the platform one, getting reasonable behaviour when out of the saddle but still good control when doing nasty descents ?

    thx

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    I mostly run the fork in the open setting with my 2x10 set up. the plushness is so nice its just worth it to keep it open for shorter bursts out of the saddle. for extended fire road climbs or climbs i know arenít too rough ill flick down to the platform setting (No. 2) and save some energy. the platform setting is still very smooth and plush, but i can tell a difference, if i forget to open the fork back up on a downhill its not bad at all and very manageable. if im doing any road riding (which i do on this bike) its locked out of course.
    running as a single speed i will mostly run the platform setting which is nice because it reminds me of my terralogic i have on my steel frame single speed bike and i love that fork.

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    Sorry to dig up this older thread, but I'm trying to find more info on the Vertex RSL. If I get this bike, this will be my first 29er HT, and carbon mtb. Can any owners comment more on how you like the bike now that you've had it for a while. How is the ride? Is there some compliance in the rear? I'd like to use this for 50 to 100 mi endurance races, but I'm a bit worried about getting beet up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheel-addict View Post
    I'm a bit worried about getting beet up.
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    Yeah, you don't want to take a beeting.

    Put a seatpost like the Syntace Hiflex on any bike if you want a bit more compliance.

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    I have always ridden steel frames and this was my first carbon HT. It does not ride as smooth as a steel frame but it still rides great! I have an eriksen layback TI post that definitely takes the edge off as well.
    i have had the bike for less than a year so here goes.
    Pretty darn quick handling with the shorter chainstays. BB feels a little bit high but no complaints for the most part.

    I will repeat this is my first carbon bike and I don't have anything to compare it to but....
    I will never buy another carbon frame. I had a slow speed tip over and hit a perfectly placed small rock with a pointy edge and the chainstay was finished. It was totally my fault, i bought into the santa cruz video that showed carbon is super durable and i guess i was wrong. It was not covered under warranty (which makes perfect sense) Crash replacement price was very very expensive too! I found a place that repairs carbon and $400 later i brought it back from the dead. Rode awesome and had no issues for the first 3 rides. Then i had another crash, super slow speed over the bars crash. More like a another tip over. It landed on another rock and it broke again, this time on the seat stay. Once again, absolutely my fault.

    The carbon guys were nice enought to fix it again for the cost of the carbon fiber and it rides perfect again. I am still riding it and I am not worried at all that it will break from just riding it but I have zero confidence that if i crash it will survive.

    So at this point i am going back to steel or TI or maybe take some riding lesons.


    Quote Originally Posted by wheel-addict View Post
    Sorry to dig up this older thread, but I'm trying to find more info on the Vertex RSL. If I get this bike, this will be my first 29er HT, and carbon mtb. Can any owners comment more on how you like the bike now that you've had it for a while. How is the ride? Is there some compliance in the rear? I'd like to use this for 50 to 100 mi endurance races, but I'm a bit worried about getting beet up.

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    Nice!

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    Nice!

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    Nice bike. I recently bought the vertex 999 rsl 29er. I built it and came as 23.5lb. So really don't know why there's such a big weight difference (even though I know some of my bike parts are heavier, but, does it really contribute that much?)

    here is the list:

    vertex 999 (small)
    2012 fox f29 FIT RLC
    full set xt gear (3x10 + shadow plus rear derail.), including clipless pedals, rotors
    kings x competition x brass nipples x crest rims
    hutchinson python tubless + 1.5 scoops of stans in each wheel
    ea70 stem, ec70 long flat bar, ec70 seat post
    fizik gobi saddle

    Any ideas to lighten it will be great. Thanks!!



    as for the feedback, I used to ride a niner emd, and that this RM vertex felt a lot smaller and of cos lighter. Also it didn't feel like a 29er as the wheel base is small I believe, so in terms of handling, this machine feels more agile. You can also see the ride report on another website here: 2012 Rocky Mountain Vertex: Ride Report

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