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    Pedal Force Frame Group Buy #2 ???

    Burning questions: Is there another group buy happening? If so, when and how does one jump on? Is there interest in another group purchase? I guess I'm a believer after all the + reviews have rolled in. Do we need someone to organize/orchestrate this? What front deraileur will I need again?
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    Sure but what about a 29er version instead!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axis II
    Burning questions: Is there another group buy happening?
    The rumor is yes, sometime in the next couple weeks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Axis II
    Is there interest in another group purchase?
    I will be buying at least 3 more frames. 1 for me, and 2 more for a couple buddies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Axis II
    I guess I'm a believer after all the + reviews have rolled in.
    I absolutely love the one I have, and now need another to build up the bike I promised my wife with the frame from the 1st GB.

    Quote Originally Posted by Axis II
    Do we need someone to organize/orchestrate this?
    Pedal Force ran the last GB themselves. Everything went really smoothly, except the headsets they supplied had a deffective top bearing race.

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    What front deraileur will I need again?
    I used a top pull, bottom swing 34.9 XTR M952.

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    OK then. I need another light bike.
    One more thing:
    Whats the HT+HS stack height on these things?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axis II
    OK then. I need another light bike.
    One more thing:
    Whats the HT+HS stack height on these things?
    Please no LOOK forks on this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axis II
    OK then. I need another light bike.
    One more thing:
    Whats the HT+HS stack height on these things?
    With a little "farting around" I was able to keep mine to less than 5.417" (the distance between the clamps on my Lefty Speed Carbon SL) on my 19" frame (4.7" headtube).

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlownCivic
    With a little "farting around" I was able to keep mine to less than 5.417" (the distance between the clamps on my Lefty Speed Carbon SL) on my 19" frame (4.7" headtube).
    Damn, too much for the Fournales (you get your wish DB.) I guess I'll start shopping for a 2008 SID then. Anyone know what the weight on the new SID is rumored to be anyway?
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    At that price It would be worth it to replace my 3.5lbs Scale 40 frame. I wonder how compatible this frame would be with all the components on my current bike. Is it disc ready?
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    Quote Originally Posted by drainyoo
    At that price It would be worth it to replace my 3.5lbs Scale 40 frame. I wonder how compatible this frame would be with all the components on my current bike. Is it disc ready?
    34.9 Top pull FD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axis II
    Damn, too much for the Fournales (you get your wish DB.)
    I have about .200 to .250" in spacers/space to play with there as well, so you could probably get away with 5.2" total height.

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    Im already planning on replacing my crank and FD so im good there and my current post is 31.6. Would an M97 XTR Crank be compatible on this frame? I also wonder if my Fox fork will work well with the geometry of the frame.
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    My PF MT build

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    I posted this in the original PF GB thread, but here it is again:

    I emailed PF about another GB, and they said nothing planned for the near future. However, they said that a quantity purchase would yield discounts, as I suggested that I would be bringing them 3-4 frame sales. I wonder if we could approach them about a GB of our own, and tentatively get the pricing near or at the $500 per frame from before. Anyone interested? I'd consider administering this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlownCivic
    I posted this in the original PF GB thread, but here it is again:

    I emailed PF about another GB, and they said nothing planned for the near future. However, they said that a quantity purchase would yield discounts, as I suggested that I would be bringing them 3-4 frame sales. I wonder if we could approach them about a GB of our own, and tentatively get the pricing near or at the $500 per frame from before. Anyone interested? I'd consider administering this.
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    I'll buy one.

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    Totally interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belljeffw
    I'll buy one.
    me too, (2 frames)

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    Damn! We're close to ten frames already. Any idea on the discount scale per frames purchased? I'll talk to a few guys on my team about this. I may be able to tack on another frame or two if there is interest. I hope we can do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axis II
    Damn! We're close to ten frames already. Any idea on the discount scale per frames purchased? I'll talk to a few guys on my team about this. I may be able to tack on another frame or two if there is interest. I hope we can do this.
    I emailed PF on Thursday, but I haven't heard back from them yet. I'll let you guys know as soon as I find out.

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    PF answered me that discount is possible only whan shipping address is the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeratul
    PF answered me that discount is possible only whan shipping address is the same.
    If that is the case, I can still do this, and distribute the frames from my address in Blaine, Wa.

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    Count me in for at least one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlownCivic
    If that is the case, I can still do this, and distribute the frames from my address in Blaine, Wa.
    Thanks for offering to do this. I trust that we won't find all of our spanking new frames on Ebay instead of on our front porches, eh? So shipping may cost a bit more then last time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axis II
    Thanks for offering to do this. I trust that we won't find all of our spanking new frames on Ebay instead of on our front porches, eh? So shipping may cost a bit more then last time.
    Naaa! You can pick them up from the back alley behind my work!

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    Guys,
    I get email from PF:
    "Dear Przemek,

    If you could confirm the number of frames that you and your friends are
    ordering, we could advise you on the discount. All the products are
    shipped from USA.

    The final price will depend on the number of frames ordered. If the
    frames are not shipped to the same address, then the regular shipping
    rate applies as listed on our website. Please see link below for
    shipping rates.


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    I think that we should write mail to PF with name and surname and number of frames.
    or we can do it in other way. Any idea?

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    I'd be in for two.

    The geometry on these seems a little odd though. Does anyone else think they have really short top tubes? the largest size only has a 606mm TT, that seems awfully short for a 21" bike.

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    It appears that we're already at 12 or so frames, without having asked for any money yet, or without knowing the final pricing. I'm feeling pretty confident that this will work out, assumjing of course that PF is willing to sell for a good discount.

    If I don't hear from them by the end of the day tomorrow, I'll give them a phone call on Tuesday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by briscoelab
    I'd be in for two.

    The geometry on these seems a little odd though. Does anyone else think they have really short top tubes? the largest size only has a 606mm TT, that seems awfully short for a 21" bike.
    Is really 606mm for 21'' short??
    Look at the Scott Scale for 21'' TT is 620mm (only 1,4 cm longer)
    Giant XTC Composite 21' 610mm

    What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeratul
    Is really 606mm for 21'' short??
    Look at the Scott Scale for 21'' TT is 620mm (only 1,4 cm longer)
    Giant XTC Composite 21' 610mm

    What do you think?
    Those ETT numbers do look short. My XC HT has a 24.4" ETT (size is 18"). The MT has shorter ETTs than the Santa Cruz Heckler! Weird. But people seem plenty happy with the frames.

    Edited to mention that my HT is custom, not some really weird 18" standard frame
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    Quote Originally Posted by womble
    Those ETT numbers do look short. My XC HT has a 24.4" ETT (size is 18"). The MT has shorter ETTs than the Santa Cruz Heckler! Weird. But people seem plenty happy with the frames.
    But they are almost the same like in the best frames for XC, so i don't know what to say about that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeratul
    Is really 606mm for 21'' short??
    Look at the Scott Scale for 21'' TT is 620mm (only 1,4 cm longer)
    Giant XTC Composite 21' 610mm

    What do you think?
    I personally think that 14 mm is a huge difference. Maybe I'm a fit weenie though, from all my time on road bikes. I happen to be all torso, so it's always a challenge to get bikes that fit correctly in overall reach, while still having a short enough head tube. I have to run a 150mm stem on my road bike! Just call me ape man
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    Quote Originally Posted by briscoelab
    I personally think that 14 cm is a huge difference.
    But I wrote thaht there is 1.4 cm difference (14 mm) not 14 cm (140mm).

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    Here is a link to the geo. chart. The ETT isn't really too short IMO. My 18inch VooDoo Sobo has a 22.5 ETT. The 17 inch PF has a 22.4 ETT.
    http://pedalforce.com/online/product...oducts_id=4702
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeratul
    But I wrote thaht there is 1.4 cm difference (14 mm) not 14 cm (140mm).
    Sorry for the typo on my part, I personally think a 1.4cm difference is huge. All of my size large MTBs have at least a 610mm ETT and most have a 615mm ETT. These are traditional size 18"-20" bikes.

    It's not a huge deal though, I can run a 120mm stem on the MT with not much problem. Just making an observation that these bikes have very short effective top tubes for their given size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeratul
    But they are almost the same like in the best frames for XC, so i don't know what to say about that...
    There is no 'best' frame for XC, just what happens to fit a particular rider. Mainly pointing out that these frames probably wouldn't be suitable for people with long torsos who still wanted to run normal or short stems.

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    I got email from PF:
    "Dear Przemek,

    For 8-10 frames, we can offer $689USD per frame without shipping.
    Depending on the shipping location of each of the package, the
    appropriate shipping charge will apply.

    If you and your friends are happy with this price, we can issue you a
    coupon for you and your friends to redeem via your shopping cart on our
    website to give the discount of 61USD.

    Please note that each of your friend will have to make the purchase to
    total minimum 8 frames to enjoy the $61USD discount. If we have less
    than 8 frames order, we will adjust the price of the frame to $700.

    Please advise if this arrangement is acceptable and we will email you
    the coupon code.

    Regards,
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    I think that the price is ok. So everyone who is interested in that discount write mail to PF that you want coupon code for 61 USD discount. ok ?

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    What happened to "at or near $500"? We went from a discount of more than 25% to a discount of 8%. A nice discount to be sure, but not enough to convince me to buy a frame I probably won't use before next Spring. If we could get the price down to, say, $630 (about 15%), I would still be interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeratul
    I got email from PF:
    "Dear Przemek,

    For 8-10 frames, we can offer $689USD per frame without shipping.
    Depending on the shipping location of each of the package, the
    appropriate shipping charge will apply.

    If you and your friends are happy with this price, we can issue you a
    coupon for you and your friends to redeem via your shopping cart on our
    website to give the discount of 61USD.

    Please note that each of your friend will have to make the purchase to
    total minimum 8 frames to enjoy the $61USD discount. If we have less
    than 8 frames order, we will adjust the price of the frame to $700.

    Please advise if this arrangement is acceptable and we will email you
    the coupon code.

    Regards,
    Ming Yong
    Sales Director
    "

    I think that the price is ok. So everyone who is interested in that discount write mail to PF that you want coupon code for 61 USD discount. ok ?

    What? I thought the standard price was $700? This is really an insignificant discount. I vote we hold out for a better deal with either a larger quantity or they come back with a better offer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axis II
    What? I thought the standard price was $700? This is really an insignificant discount. I vote we hold out for a better deal with either a larger quantity or they come back with a better offer.
    The standard price is $750, but I agree that $689 is not the best price. Ming has not responded to my inquiry yet. I emailed her last week. I guess she had deemed me unworthy. I will try and phone her tomorrow.

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    I also could be interested in one of these frames aswell .
    does anyone know how long it takes from order to delivery ?

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    We should decide at what price we are willing to buy, so Ming can tell us how many orders are required to qualify for that price.

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    Good idea. I'll buy at 600 or close to it, I suppose. 500 would be wonderfull.
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    I am expressing my interest now too...

    Keep me in the loop, I would be in need of 1 frame. Thanks

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    Depending on the price I might want one too for my first weight weenie build. I'm sure as hell not paying $689 though
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    Let's keep a bit of perspective here... Giant's composite hartdtail retails for 1500

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    Last email from PF:
    "Unfortunately we are unable to offer you better discounts. If you are
    able to find quality carbon hardtail mountain frame for less than
    $689USD, you have got a great deal."

    I don't know what you guys want to do but i will buy this frame...
    So tell me as soon as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeratul
    Last email from PF:
    "Unfortunately we are unable to offer you better discounts. If you are
    able to find quality carbon hardtail mountain frame for less than
    $689USD, you have got a great deal."

    I don't know what you guys want to do but i will buy this frame...
    So tell me as soon as possible.
    Hold up cowboy! It's the end of the season. To my mind we have all the time in the world to hold out for a larger quantity purchase/bigger discount. We've picked up like three more frames just in the last two days! Haste makes waste. Patience is a virtue, etc., etc.
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    I'd buy at $689, but would be willing to wait if it pays off. She doesn't make it sound as if quantity matters though. Sounds like a take it or leave it deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tolleyman
    I'd buy at $689, but would be willing to wait if it pays off. She doesn't make it sound as if quantity matters though. Sounds like a take it or leave it deal.
    Well, she seems to say that the more frames the higher the discount:

    If you could confirm the number of frames that you and your friends are
    ordering, we could advise you on the discount. All the products are
    shipped from USA.

    The final price will depend on the number of frames ordered. If the
    frames are not shipped to the same address, then the regular shipping
    rate applies as listed on our website. Please see link below for
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    I read this to mean that the more frames we order the better the deal, no?
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    I'd be in for one 15" as well, if we can get a slightly better price.

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    I assume she'd let me order a QS2 road frame as part of this too. That'll put me in for two frames.
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    I did finally hear back from Ming (by email), and she has said that there would be more discounts for higher quantities. I guess I will have to email her again to find out what that might be. She also mentioned, that depending on the quantity of frames, that they could possibly supply them form their current inventory.

    I will try and phone again on Monday to iron out some details.

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    still interested at 500, not so much above that.

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    I got more details on the tentative GB today from Pedal Force. Payment would be made to PF directly and shipped directly from PF to individual buyers, so no worries about your frames hitting ebay . Shipping charges will be as detailed on PF's website ( http://pedalforce.com/online/pages.php?page_id=24 ). I have been told that depending on quantities and sizes that the GB might be able to be filled from their current inventory. Otherwise, there might be a delay getting them from Taiwan. Pedal Force has an order in place currently.

    Here's the pricing:

    5-10 pieces $675
    11-15 pieces $625
    16-20 pieces $599
    21-25 pieces $510

    From the looks of things, we could probably get to 21 frames pretty easily. I'm going out on a limb here, and starting the GB with 3 frames. Please add your intentions here by quoting the list part of this post with your name. Please also keep in mind that on the last GB, PF allowed us to purchase other parts from the "bike build" section of their site, and for the most part, those parts were at a substantial savings over other discount sources. I suspect we'll be able to do the same again.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BlownCivic
    I got more details on the tentative GB today from Pedal Force. Payment would be made to PF directly and shipped directly from PF to individual buyers, so no worries about your frames hitting ebay . Shipping charges will be as detailed on PF's website ( http://pedalforce.com/online/pages.php?page_id=24 ). I have been told that depending on quantities and sizes that the GB might be able to be filled from their current inventory. Otherwise, there might be a delay getting them from Taiwan. Pedal Force has an order in place currently.

    Here's the pricing:

    5-10 pieces $675
    11-15 pieces $625
    16-20 pieces $599
    21-25 pieces $510

    From the looks of things, we could probably get to 21 frames pretty easily. I'm going out on a limb here, and starting the GB with 3 frames. Please add your intentions here by quoting the list part of this post with your name. Please also keep in mind that on the last GB, PF allowed us to purchase other parts from the "bike build" section of their site, and for the most part, those parts were at a substantial savings over other discount sources. I suspect we'll be able to do the same again.



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    Originally Posted by BlownCivic
    I got more details on the tentative GB today from Pedal Force. Payment would be made to PF directly and shipped directly from PF to individual buyers, so no worries about your frames hitting ebay . Shipping charges will be as detailed on PF's website ( http://pedalforce.com/online/pages.php?page_id=24 ). I have been told that depending on quantities and sizes that the GB might be able to be filled from their current inventory. Otherwise, there might be a delay getting them from Taiwan. Pedal Force has an order in place currently.

    Here's the pricing:

    5-10 pieces $675
    11-15 pieces $625
    16-20 pieces $599
    21-25 pieces $510

    From the looks of things, we could probably get to 21 frames pretty easily. I'm going out on a limb here, and starting the GB with 3 frames. Please add your intentions here by quoting the list part of this post with your name. Please also keep in mind that on the last GB, PF allowed us to purchase other parts from the "bike build" section of their site, and for the most part, those parts were at a substantial savings over other discount sources. I suspect we'll be able to do the same again.



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    Count me in for sure on this one. Hopefully we can get 21 for sure.

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    If it's possible to get a road frame under the same deal, I may be interested in 1 or 2 additional frames.

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    Sounds good. Thanks for the update!

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    How soon are those that have shown interest going to be able to pay? I just got word this morning that we have till the 15th of September to have our money in, or the GB goes to another "interested party". Please help me maintain some credibility here with Pedal Force.

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    Whenever you need. Specifically how will we be paying.
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    I don't have all the details ironed out just yet, but you'll be paying Pedal Force directly and if I recall correctly, on the last GB, Credit Card, Paypal payments or money orders work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlownCivic
    How soon are those that have shown interest going to be able to pay? I just got word this morning that we have till the 15th of September to have our money in, or the GB goes to another "interested party". Please help me maintain some credibility here with Pedal Force.

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    If they are going to decrease our window of opportunity it handicaps our ability to get the best possible price. I suppose that's exactly what they are trying to accomplish here. I would say that you have lost no credibility with PF if they are going to throw an arbitrary deadline into the mix on such short notice. Shall we call their bluff? I can pay emmediately BUT I was looking forward to the 625 figure at least.
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    I can pay right away as well.
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    Alright sounds good. Keep us posted,
    Thanks for all of your work thus far.

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    I can pay immediately, but I also don't have any problem waiting several months. If they don't have enough frames on hand, it could take time for them to get more frames manufactured.

    They say the frames are made in factories in Taiwan that make parts for multiple bike companies. Each new batch would have to be scheduled around whatever else is happening, and the larger bike companies probably take precedence. I'm guessing the group buy programs they set up were to verify they had enough orders to cover their up-front manufacturing costs.

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    Well the official word on other frames (road stuff) is no. Only the MT frame can take part in this GB. We now have just over 1 week to get to the 21 piece count. Lets spread the word folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axis II
    If they are going to decrease our window of opportunity it handicaps our ability to get the best possible price. I suppose that's exactly what they are trying to accomplish here. I would say that you have lost no credibility with PF if they are going to throw an arbitrary deadline into the mix on such short notice. Shall we call their bluff? I can pay emmediately BUT I was looking forward to the 625 figure at least.
    My thoughts exactly, what happened to their usual deposit then wait, then pay rest plan like all the other group buys? If we're getting kneecaped here with a deadline I say we call their bluff.

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    http://weightweenies.starbike.com/ph...ic.php?t=34490

    I posted info up on weight weenies, maybe we'll get some takers from there/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Taipan
    My thoughts exactly, what happened to their usual deposit then wait, then pay rest plan like all the other group buys?
    The MT GB was "pay in full in advance". We waited from the onset of the GB in January till the frame deliveries in May.

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    In your opinion what do you think the wait will be this time around?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlownCivic
    The MT GB was "pay in full in advance". We waited from the onset of the GB in January till the frame deliveries in May.
    So these will ship immediately? I'm still in..I guess my powertap system can wait .

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    If it gets to the point that buying another frame will save us another $89, that would push me over the edge into buying two. I bet some of the other posters feel the same way. In other words if we can only get 20 commitments, I will definitely become the 21st.
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    I was lead to believe that up to a certain volume, they would ship immediately from Pedal Force's current inventory. If we surpased their inventory, it would come from the order that they currently have in with their supplier in Taiwan. I do not know what that "magic" number is. I can try and find out later today. I just got home from the graveyard shift at work, and need to get some sleep now.

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    I am interested in a large frame. I need a new project. Keep me posted. Thanks.

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    Interested. Assuming the 21 piece frame price, does anyone know what the total cost would be including shipping and any other fees such as customs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandmangts
    I am interested in a large frame. I need a new project. Keep me posted. Thanks.
    Excellent. If you are serious go ahead and put your name on the list and then post the updated list so we can keep track of where we are at. If you look up in the thread you will see the list with everyone's name and number of frames to be ordered.
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    Let's keep this going guys. We only need 8-9 more frames (depending on seven-22's intentions). I'm also hoping that everyone on the list is ready to pony up before next Saturday (the 15th). I didn't hear back from Ming at PF on the inventory levels today, so I suspect we'll need to wait to Monday for this.

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    Does anyone remember what shipping to Australia cost? Money has to be in by Saturday the 15th? How do I pay, are they setting up an online GB page again?

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    New question here.

    I want 1 frame, where is the list ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motomatt
    I want 1 frame, where is the list ?
    Here you go:

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    Only 8 more frames needed for the 510USD amount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie_yeti
    Does anyone remember what shipping to Australia cost? Money has to be in by Saturday the 15th? How do I pay, are they setting up an online GB page again?
    According to this page, shipping by US Postal Service to Australia is $61 US, and by DHL Courier its $165.

    http://pedalforce.com/online/pages.p...9e6685d5557970

    The payment details have not yet been worked out. Either we'll get a GB page or there'll be some other arrangement. Yes, payment in full will be required by the 15th (next Saturday).
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    Hi!

    I'm definitely up for one!
    Few questions: Payment has to be directly made to PF?
    How will I send my adress and other info? Shipping to Holland is possible?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveke
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    I'm definitely up for one!
    Few questions: Payment has to be directly made to PF?
    How will I send my adress and other info? Shipping to Holland is possible?

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    Yes, payment is directly to Pedal Force. Your address and other info will be required by Pedal Force when making your payment. Payment details are not yet finalised, but I will have details at the begining of next week. Shipping to Holland is no problem. I don't see it on Pedal Force's country list for shipping charges, but shipping to most other European countries is $41 US.

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    New question here.

    I want a 15",I'm 5.5 does that sound right , I'm currently riding a 17 moots ybb, I would like a shorter head tube, and seat tube.
    l can pay immediately.


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    Quote Originally Posted by seven-22
    Interested. Assuming the 21 piece frame price, does anyone know what the total cost would be including shipping and any other fees such as customs?
    Hi there,

    Just realised that no one answered your questions. The Pedal Force website shows domestic shipping by Fed Ex as $30, and the customs fees are already paid by Pedal Force (this statement only applies to buyers in the USA, since Pedal Force is located in the USA), as they are the ones importing the frames into the US. If we hit 21+ frames, you're looking at $540 including all costs.

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    I may be upping my commitment to 4, possibly 5 frames. I'll know early in the week. We're almost there !

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    ... and if we just ...

    Quote Originally Posted by BlownCivic
    BlownCivic 3 frames
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    sandmangts 1 frame
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    I may be upping my commitment to 4, possibly 5 frames. I'll know early in the week. We're almost there !
    I'm up for a 15"

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    Off-topic, but that YBB is beautiful! If it were a little larger, I would gladly swap you my Pedal Force bike

    For my 19in frame, the published Pedal Force numbers were very accurate. The 15in is much shorter than the 17in, and also much shorter than your YBB. Unless your YBB is much too large, you probably want the 17in PedalForce.

    Moots geometry:
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    Can't make it this time..

    Unfortunately it looks like I will have to wait til the next GB comes up, I just spent all my extra $$ on road bike stuff.

    Seems like this shouldn't be too hard - for the first GB, we were able to get 50 orders despite the frame being a relative unknown, and some people having concerns about quality. Now that 50 RBRers own em and have been posting great things, I'm sure a lot more people will have the confidence to buy one.

    I'm thinking about buying a PF road frame as well later this year, either the superlight CF version or the Ti/CF 'Fusion' (which is stunningly beautiful and probably rides amazing, but it's more expensive than the carbon frame AND heavier)...;

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    Quote Originally Posted by EuroMack
    Off-topic, but that YBB is beautiful! If it were a little larger, I would gladly swap you my Pedal Force bike

    For my 19in frame, the published Pedal Force numbers were very accurate. The 15in is much shorter than the 17in, and also much shorter than your YBB. Unless your YBB is much too large, you probably want the 17in PedalForce.

    Moots geometry:
    http://www.moots.com/bicycle.php?ID=8
    Thanks for reply
    I agree the top tube lenght is too short , but I want a shorter ct, and head tube

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    Not wishing to stick my nose in here but would it not be better to set up a company bank the money then order the frames

    In fact its kind of working on a buy bulk stack em high sellem cheap principle so if the interest was there i would order 25 and stick a small middleman fee on top

    maybe theres an entrepreneurial type here whos prepared to take a risk

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