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    I assume she'd let me order a QS2 road frame as part of this too. That'll put me in for two frames.
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    I did finally hear back from Ming (by email), and she has said that there would be more discounts for higher quantities. I guess I will have to email her again to find out what that might be. She also mentioned, that depending on the quantity of frames, that they could possibly supply them form their current inventory.

    I will try and phone again on Monday to iron out some details.

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    still interested at 500, not so much above that.

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    I got more details on the tentative GB today from Pedal Force. Payment would be made to PF directly and shipped directly from PF to individual buyers, so no worries about your frames hitting ebay . Shipping charges will be as detailed on PF's website ( http://pedalforce.com/online/pages.php?page_id=24 ). I have been told that depending on quantities and sizes that the GB might be able to be filled from their current inventory. Otherwise, there might be a delay getting them from Taiwan. Pedal Force has an order in place currently.

    Here's the pricing:

    5-10 pieces $675
    11-15 pieces $625
    16-20 pieces $599
    21-25 pieces $510

    From the looks of things, we could probably get to 21 frames pretty easily. I'm going out on a limb here, and starting the GB with 3 frames. Please add your intentions here by quoting the list part of this post with your name. Please also keep in mind that on the last GB, PF allowed us to purchase other parts from the "bike build" section of their site, and for the most part, those parts were at a substantial savings over other discount sources. I suspect we'll be able to do the same again.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BlownCivic
    I got more details on the tentative GB today from Pedal Force. Payment would be made to PF directly and shipped directly from PF to individual buyers, so no worries about your frames hitting ebay . Shipping charges will be as detailed on PF's website ( http://pedalforce.com/online/pages.php?page_id=24 ). I have been told that depending on quantities and sizes that the GB might be able to be filled from their current inventory. Otherwise, there might be a delay getting them from Taiwan. Pedal Force has an order in place currently.

    Here's the pricing:

    5-10 pieces $675
    11-15 pieces $625
    16-20 pieces $599
    21-25 pieces $510

    From the looks of things, we could probably get to 21 frames pretty easily. I'm going out on a limb here, and starting the GB with 3 frames. Please add your intentions here by quoting the list part of this post with your name. Please also keep in mind that on the last GB, PF allowed us to purchase other parts from the "bike build" section of their site, and for the most part, those parts were at a substantial savings over other discount sources. I suspect we'll be able to do the same again.



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    Sounds good. Thanks for the update!

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    Originally Posted by BlownCivic
    I got more details on the tentative GB today from Pedal Force. Payment would be made to PF directly and shipped directly from PF to individual buyers, so no worries about your frames hitting ebay . Shipping charges will be as detailed on PF's website ( http://pedalforce.com/online/pages.php?page_id=24 ). I have been told that depending on quantities and sizes that the GB might be able to be filled from their current inventory. Otherwise, there might be a delay getting them from Taiwan. Pedal Force has an order in place currently.

    Here's the pricing:

    5-10 pieces $675
    11-15 pieces $625
    16-20 pieces $599
    21-25 pieces $510

    From the looks of things, we could probably get to 21 frames pretty easily. I'm going out on a limb here, and starting the GB with 3 frames. Please add your intentions here by quoting the list part of this post with your name. Please also keep in mind that on the last GB, PF allowed us to purchase other parts from the "bike build" section of their site, and for the most part, those parts were at a substantial savings over other discount sources. I suspect we'll be able to do the same again.



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    Sounds good. Thanks for the update!

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    Count me in for sure on this one. Hopefully we can get 21 for sure.

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    BlownCivic 3 frames
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    If it's possible to get a road frame under the same deal, I may be interested in 1 or 2 additional frames.

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    Sounds good. Thanks for the update!

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    BlownCivic]BlownCivic 3 frames
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    Jeff Bell 1 frame (@ $625 or lower, maybe more if road frames available)
    Briscoelab 1 frame
    tolleyman 1 frame,perhaps 2 if road frames are available.
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    BlownCivic]BlownCivic 3 frames
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    Jeff Bell 1 frame (@ $625 or lower, maybe more if road frames available)
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    tolleyman 1 frame,perhaps 2 if road frames are available.
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    How soon are those that have shown interest going to be able to pay? I just got word this morning that we have till the 15th of September to have our money in, or the GB goes to another "interested party". Please help me maintain some credibility here with Pedal Force.

    Thanks

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    Whenever you need. Specifically how will we be paying.
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    I don't have all the details ironed out just yet, but you'll be paying Pedal Force directly and if I recall correctly, on the last GB, Credit Card, Paypal payments or money orders work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlownCivic
    How soon are those that have shown interest going to be able to pay? I just got word this morning that we have till the 15th of September to have our money in, or the GB goes to another "interested party". Please help me maintain some credibility here with Pedal Force.

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    If they are going to decrease our window of opportunity it handicaps our ability to get the best possible price. I suppose that's exactly what they are trying to accomplish here. I would say that you have lost no credibility with PF if they are going to throw an arbitrary deadline into the mix on such short notice. Shall we call their bluff? I can pay emmediately BUT I was looking forward to the 625 figure at least.
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    I can pay right away as well.
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    Alright sounds good. Keep us posted,
    Thanks for all of your work thus far.

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    I can pay immediately, but I also don't have any problem waiting several months. If they don't have enough frames on hand, it could take time for them to get more frames manufactured.

    They say the frames are made in factories in Taiwan that make parts for multiple bike companies. Each new batch would have to be scheduled around whatever else is happening, and the larger bike companies probably take precedence. I'm guessing the group buy programs they set up were to verify they had enough orders to cover their up-front manufacturing costs.

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    Well the official word on other frames (road stuff) is no. Only the MT frame can take part in this GB. We now have just over 1 week to get to the 21 piece count. Lets spread the word folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axis II
    If they are going to decrease our window of opportunity it handicaps our ability to get the best possible price. I suppose that's exactly what they are trying to accomplish here. I would say that you have lost no credibility with PF if they are going to throw an arbitrary deadline into the mix on such short notice. Shall we call their bluff? I can pay emmediately BUT I was looking forward to the 625 figure at least.
    My thoughts exactly, what happened to their usual deposit then wait, then pay rest plan like all the other group buys? If we're getting kneecaped here with a deadline I say we call their bluff.

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    http://weightweenies.starbike.com/ph...ic.php?t=34490

    I posted info up on weight weenies, maybe we'll get some takers from there/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Taipan
    My thoughts exactly, what happened to their usual deposit then wait, then pay rest plan like all the other group buys?
    The MT GB was "pay in full in advance". We waited from the onset of the GB in January till the frame deliveries in May.

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    In your opinion what do you think the wait will be this time around?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlownCivic
    The MT GB was "pay in full in advance". We waited from the onset of the GB in January till the frame deliveries in May.
    So these will ship immediately? I'm still in..I guess my powertap system can wait .

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    If it gets to the point that buying another frame will save us another $89, that would push me over the edge into buying two. I bet some of the other posters feel the same way. In other words if we can only get 20 commitments, I will definitely become the 21st.
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    I was lead to believe that up to a certain volume, they would ship immediately from Pedal Force's current inventory. If we surpased their inventory, it would come from the order that they currently have in with their supplier in Taiwan. I do not know what that "magic" number is. I can try and find out later today. I just got home from the graveyard shift at work, and need to get some sleep now.

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    I am interested in a large frame. I need a new project. Keep me posted. Thanks.

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    Interested. Assuming the 21 piece frame price, does anyone know what the total cost would be including shipping and any other fees such as customs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandmangts
    I am interested in a large frame. I need a new project. Keep me posted. Thanks.
    Excellent. If you are serious go ahead and put your name on the list and then post the updated list so we can keep track of where we are at. If you look up in the thread you will see the list with everyone's name and number of frames to be ordered.
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    BlownCivic]BlownCivic 3 frames
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    Jeff Bell 1 frame (@ $625 or lower, maybe more if road frames available)
    Briscoelab 1 frame
    tolleyman 1 frame,perhaps 2 if road frames are available.
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    Let's keep this going guys. We only need 8-9 more frames (depending on seven-22's intentions). I'm also hoping that everyone on the list is ready to pony up before next Saturday (the 15th). I didn't hear back from Ming at PF on the inventory levels today, so I suspect we'll need to wait to Monday for this.

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    Does anyone remember what shipping to Australia cost? Money has to be in by Saturday the 15th? How do I pay, are they setting up an online GB page again?

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    New question here.

    I want 1 frame, where is the list ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motomatt
    I want 1 frame, where is the list ?
    Here you go:

    BlownCivic 3 frames
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    Lord Taipan 1 frame
    Zeratul 1 frame
    Jeff Bell 1 frame (@ $625 or lower)
    Briscoelab 1 frame
    tolleyman 1 frame
    MF9point8 1 Frame.
    sandmangts 1 frame
    Motomatt 1 frame

    Only 8 more frames needed for the 510USD amount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie_yeti
    Does anyone remember what shipping to Australia cost? Money has to be in by Saturday the 15th? How do I pay, are they setting up an online GB page again?
    According to this page, shipping by US Postal Service to Australia is $61 US, and by DHL Courier its $165.

    http://pedalforce.com/online/pages.p...9e6685d5557970

    The payment details have not yet been worked out. Either we'll get a GB page or there'll be some other arrangement. Yes, payment in full will be required by the 15th (next Saturday).
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    Hi!

    I'm definitely up for one!
    Few questions: Payment has to be directly made to PF?
    How will I send my adress and other info? Shipping to Holland is possible?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveke
    Hi!

    I'm definitely up for one!
    Few questions: Payment has to be directly made to PF?
    How will I send my adress and other info? Shipping to Holland is possible?

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    Yes, payment is directly to Pedal Force. Your address and other info will be required by Pedal Force when making your payment. Payment details are not yet finalised, but I will have details at the begining of next week. Shipping to Holland is no problem. I don't see it on Pedal Force's country list for shipping charges, but shipping to most other European countries is $41 US.

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    New question here.

    I want a 15",I'm 5.5 does that sound right , I'm currently riding a 17 moots ybb, I would like a shorter head tube, and seat tube.
    l can pay immediately.


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    Quote Originally Posted by seven-22
    Interested. Assuming the 21 piece frame price, does anyone know what the total cost would be including shipping and any other fees such as customs?
    Hi there,

    Just realised that no one answered your questions. The Pedal Force website shows domestic shipping by Fed Ex as $30, and the customs fees are already paid by Pedal Force (this statement only applies to buyers in the USA, since Pedal Force is located in the USA), as they are the ones importing the frames into the US. If we hit 21+ frames, you're looking at $540 including all costs.

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    BlownCivic 3 frames
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    Lord Taipan 1 frame
    Zeratul 1 frame
    Jeff Bell 1 frame (@ $625 or lower)
    Briscoelab 1 frame
    tolleyman 1 frame
    MF9point8 1 Frame.
    sandmangts 1 frame
    Motomatt 1 frame
    Daveke 1 frame

    I may be upping my commitment to 4, possibly 5 frames. I'll know early in the week. We're almost there !

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    ... and if we just ...

    Quote Originally Posted by BlownCivic
    BlownCivic 3 frames
    Axis II 1 frame
    cyclemnpat 1 frame(M)
    Lord Taipan 1 frame
    Zeratul 1 frame
    Jeff Bell 1 frame (@ $625 or lower)
    Briscoelab 1 frame
    tolleyman 1 frame
    MF9point8 1 Frame.
    sandmangts 1 frame
    Motomatt 1 frame
    Daveke 1 frame

    I may be upping my commitment to 4, possibly 5 frames. I'll know early in the week. We're almost there !
    I'm up for a 15"

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    BlownCivic 3 frames
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    Jeff Bell 1 frame (@ $625 or lower)
    Briscoelab 1 frame
    tolleyman 1 frame
    MF9point8 1 Frame.
    sandmangts 1 frame
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    Daveke 1 frame
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    Off-topic, but that YBB is beautiful! If it were a little larger, I would gladly swap you my Pedal Force bike

    For my 19in frame, the published Pedal Force numbers were very accurate. The 15in is much shorter than the 17in, and also much shorter than your YBB. Unless your YBB is much too large, you probably want the 17in PedalForce.

    Moots geometry:
    http://www.moots.com/bicycle.php?ID=8

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    Can't make it this time..

    Unfortunately it looks like I will have to wait til the next GB comes up, I just spent all my extra $$ on road bike stuff.

    Seems like this shouldn't be too hard - for the first GB, we were able to get 50 orders despite the frame being a relative unknown, and some people having concerns about quality. Now that 50 RBRers own em and have been posting great things, I'm sure a lot more people will have the confidence to buy one.

    I'm thinking about buying a PF road frame as well later this year, either the superlight CF version or the Ti/CF 'Fusion' (which is stunningly beautiful and probably rides amazing, but it's more expensive than the carbon frame AND heavier)...;

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    Quote Originally Posted by EuroMack
    Off-topic, but that YBB is beautiful! If it were a little larger, I would gladly swap you my Pedal Force bike

    For my 19in frame, the published Pedal Force numbers were very accurate. The 15in is much shorter than the 17in, and also much shorter than your YBB. Unless your YBB is much too large, you probably want the 17in PedalForce.

    Moots geometry:
    http://www.moots.com/bicycle.php?ID=8
    Thanks for reply
    I agree the top tube lenght is too short , but I want a shorter ct, and head tube

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    Not wishing to stick my nose in here but would it not be better to set up a company bank the money then order the frames

    In fact its kind of working on a buy bulk stack em high sellem cheap principle so if the interest was there i would order 25 and stick a small middleman fee on top

    maybe theres an entrepreneurial type here whos prepared to take a risk

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