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    Cool-blue Rhythm New ControlTech Porn

    I just received some comped skewers to try out and review them (Thanks Brian ) So far the quality and looks from the New ControlTech have been sweet!!!

    Here are some pics and weights:










    I will be posting a reivew on the on this board and on the new Light-Bikes's Review section.

    These items and the others so far from ControlTech have been very good with claimed weights vs production weight. Now let's see how they perform!! Only MTB versions. They can be cut down for Road use. I am going to tes both on my KLEIN and the Comp QR with be cut down after to try and possibly leave on the Litespeed Roadie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRT BOY
    I just received some comped skewers to try out and review them (Thanks Brian ) So far the quality and looks from the New ControlTech have been sweet!!!

    Here are some pics and weights:










    I will be posting a reivew on the on this board and on the new Light-Bikes's Review section.

    These items and the others so far from ControlTech have been very good with claimed weights vs production weight. Now let's see how they perform!! Only MTB versions. They can be cut down for Road use. I am going to tes both on my KLEIN and the Comp QR with be cut down after to try and possibly leave on the Litespeed Roadie.
    Ironic that you have posted this as I was just about to start looking for options on durable lightweight QR skewers.

    Out of complete ignorance I am going to ask how you tighten down the race skewers? Is there some sort of a nut that gets torqued down with a wrench? What would be the consequences using these on a disk brake equipped ride?

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    the control tech bolt-ons arent that new... i got quite an old set on one of my bikes, plus several "newer" ones on other bikes. work very well on my V-equipped HT, my disc-equipped duallie and my rigid cyclo-cross rig. you can tune the weight further by cutting off some material from the hex-nut side (- 4g approx.)


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    Yep, both are Ti axels

    and so far just trying a few minutes down the rotty medians are the house, they seems fine. I allso have the Extralite Aliens and OddsandEndos Stee lBolt-Ons and these feel very similar.
    The steel axels feel just a tad better, but not a big difference for me.

    I will be trsting these with Mavic CrossMax and Bonti(King)/517 wheels on a Fox RLT.

    I also want to see how well they clamp holds after riding.


    "I, on the other hand, will have no issues running those with my Fatty fork and 31.8 bar/stem."

    Funny you say that. It's probaly your FORK, not the 31.8 that you feel the stiffness in! Especially at your weight, again. The 31.8 might be in your head. Personally if your over 185-200lbs and have a strong upper body and ride very technical terrain, you might notice a differnce. Could also be the longer bar. Put a SID on your bike and a back-pack with 30lbs of weight and then tell us if you feel a differnce riding a 25.4 or 31.8

    I can agree with most feel BB or crank flex if your legs are strong enough and create enough torque. Being a former body builder and still having big, strong as hell legs, I can feel the stiffness in cranks, but ever so slightly.

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    They use a 5mm Allen wrench

    Should be fine with Disc Brakes
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    does one really notice a difference in flex between Ti and steel axles? or bolt-ons and skewers? i just love my control-techs for their weight and plain look


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    steel ones are stiffer...

    Quote Originally Posted by Max
    does one really notice a difference in flex between Ti and steel axles? or bolt-ons and skewers? i just love my control-techs for their weight and plain look
    there's definitely a difference in stiffness. on my SID i get brakepad rub with Ti-skewers. the Steel bolt-ons cure that easily. even on my roadbike i can tell the difference especially in fast downhill corners where the steel axles let you steer much more secure.

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    steel from control tech

    Anyone know if Control Tech is going to start making their stainless steel bolt-on "Race" skewers again? Those are my all-time favorite skewers, light, stiff, durable, theft resistant....

    Or maybe a Ti rear, steel front combo?
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    no idea. but if you're looking for inexpensive steel bolt-ons, go for mounty-axles. they retail for little money, and their Ti version weighs in at 48g


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    Quote Originally Posted by Max
    does one really notice a difference in flex between Ti and steel axles? or bolt-ons and skewers? i just love my control-techs for their weight and plain look
    I have used Ti and Steel and I don't think it is possible for me to tell the difference between the two materials nor could I really (Honestly) tell the difference between bolt on and QR skewers.

    For what it is worth I still choose to use Bolt Ons though over QRs. Even in racing situations no time is lost using Bolt ons and I always feel more secure riding with a pair of them.
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    yeah, that's what i wanted to point out: i don't notice any difference. but then, i'm rather on the light side. however, my crossmax SLs drag with any skewer/bolt-on set. my old wheelset didn't.

    for me, there's no advantage of skewers over light bolt-ons. i even consider BO to be saver: an average sneak thief might steal a QR wheel, but who happens to have a 5 mm hex wrench with him? and furthermore, there is no QR lever that might be caught up in branches, roots, grass or your competitior's wheel


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    "So these lighter weight guys shouldn't concern themselves with such mundane topics and OS bar/stems and OS crank/bb issues, etc. Right??"

    That's why many using campy square taper stuff right? Those BB are are flexy comapared to ISIS, Octalink, Intergrated right?

    Bars...With lots of brands now using oversize size bars (again marketing), they might not have a choice due to sponsor issues. Most pros ride what they are given, not always what is best.

    BTW, just because you were a bodybuilder it does not equal power. Cipo and Petacchi are not bodybuilders, yet both are capable of producing 2000+ watts at anaerobic threshold. I doubt you could.

    Sure, there is some called "sports-specific strength." No I probaly can not produce that much power, well maybe for a few seconds, but I can tell you thoose guys can't squat 500lbs. At that time I was only 151lbs, btw. I wonder how fast they can sprint running. Being a sprinter (track) I wonder what they 50m or 100m sprint would be? Well even the 40yd dash. I can probaly take them there .

    Now my legs are strong enough if I out enough torque, I can feel the cranks moving just slightly when riding technical, rotty terrain at really grinding pace. Yes I don't have the cycling power of these pro, but I have strong enough legs to put soem seriious torque to the cranks and BB.


    I am acutally going to have my Vo2 tested along with power this May when I drop 10+ lbs so I will know how much power I can produce. AND NO I don't think I will even come close to them...LOL..but I am not a pro cycylist either.

    Let's just drop that your noodle of a body can feel the stiffness in 31.8
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    Ok I am sorry, maybe dried Spaghetti...

    How tall are you? 126lbs? Unless your are 5'3" or under...
    36, so. I am 35 and even being in the worstshape I have been in 12yrs and I am still in great shape!! I doubt you could even get close to me when I am in top shape at 150lbs.

    Well you never answerd my question! Why flexy campy/square taper bb for many, many pros? lance is finally going to 31.8. Why BONTRAGER is a new sponsor, that why!!!!

    Hey buy into the hype. Guys like you make the whole industry, including me richer!!

    Really classy, picking on my wife and six week old child. At least I probaly have a wife and kids!!!

    Thios just proves one thing...

    BTW..I found a pictur of you on the biking site. man i hope I don't look like you by this August!!
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    come on, since when pro racers are reference here????

    there are many racers running square tapper bb for the same reason lance is going 31.8.....sponsors. nothing more.

    BUT, no one ever answered my question about 31.8 stuff. have you ever tested on your bike?


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    Man boobs

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    BTW, I am 5'8". A climbers build (2 lbs or less of body weight for every inch of height). And my personal life is none of your concern, I don't post tidbits here for all to review. You did, so deal with it...
    Do you ever find that your man-boobs swing from side to side when you climb out of the saddle, or wreak havoc with your centre of gravity during techincal sections? I find that a few rounds of wider athletic tape cure the problem for me, but I'm considering surgery as a permanent remedy. Let me know if you need a referral to a good doc if you want to try same.

    I know what you're going to say - a good jog bra would solve my problems in a pinch. However, I'm worried that my riding buds might laugh at me for wearing one.
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    Los, I have tried it on my road bike..

    but only rode soemone else's on a MTB. I persoanlly did not feel the differnce in 200+ miles on the road bike (FSA STUFF). On the MTB, maybe 12-15 miles was not enought ime at my weight.

    Again I MIGHT be for soem depending on weight or terrain, but to make blanket statements that it is stiffer is flawed IMHO.

    What we need is an enginerr to shows us with data and test that the largerdidamiter is stiffer and some testing and such.
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    if you need an engineer to show you whats good for you or not than you have a serious problem. i asked you if you tested it on your bike, and you said no,so you have no experience with it to say its marketing hype or anything else.

    i tested for a week, the stem was the same manufacture (thomson), same lenght, same rize, the bar was same material (alu) same width (600mm) with the same bar ends and i would be stupid to negate that i can feel a noticiable difference in out of the saddles sprints and bigger eforts. im 1,87cm tall and about 185lbs.

    but hey, thats the beauty of "custom" bikes, what works for me, dont need to work for you. whats wrong with it?
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    From Cyclingnews.com

    Bontrager will also provide stems, handlebars and saddles from the Bontrager Component and Wheelworks catalog, including: Race XXX Lite carbon stem, Race X Lite handlebar (the first time Lance will use a 31.8mm oversize bar) with BuzzKill handlebar inserts (utilizing Mathew's Harmonic Dampers), Grippy handlebar tape, water bottles and Race Lite and Race XXX Lite bottle cages (for road and climbing stages respectively).

    I am not against 31.8 you moron. Just making a blanket statment saying it's stiffer is just flawed.
    Yes I sell/stock the 31.8 stuff (FSA & ControlTech) and soon Syntace. Having MTB and Road bikes share the same stem is acutally a very good idead and makes inventory easier. Now wil they chage the standard again soon? Maybe. Why not 32.0?? First ther was Octalink, then ISIS, now outboard and noon bigger BB shells.This keeps you buying new stuff all the time,

    I love technology and new things, but when somethig nworks why change it. Why to make more money and sales!!!

    5'8"126lbs? Again you might look like a noddle alright. HellI should know. At 17yrs old I was 128lbs at 5'7"and was ALWAYS called skinny, etc...
    Even if you are 5% Body Fat, you are still considerd skinny and under weight.
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    I wouldn't care if someone called me skinny ...6'3" 165lbs

    anyways, 5'8" 126lbs sounds very good to me.

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    Again, I tried it on my raod bike..

    and a few miles on someone else's MTB. I am going to order soem FSA stuff to try myself for 1 month. I am a good sprinter, and on my Road bike, I noticed no change what so ever!

    I am not saying YOU did not feel a differnce. At your weight maybe you did. Look back at another post I posted.
    I said bigger riders might feel some difference. BUT to say 31.8 is stiffer for everyone is just a blanket statemnet that is not proven.

    That's all!! lets just drop this and agree to possibly disagree on this for now.
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    For what it's worth, the Velo Bella Elite Women's Cycling team was supplied Phil Wood ti SQUARE bottom brackets, and 26.0 Easton stuff.

    It should work for them, racing pro road races. And you know what? I bet if the sponsors provided us with splined stuff and 31.8 OS stuff the gals' results wouldn't be any different.

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    [QUOTE=Mr. Scary]After taking a second look, the Bontrager stuff on Armstrong's bike may be 31.8.


    i read on cyclingnews.com that Armstrong was using 31.8 this year for the first time -
    Bikes are my time machines.

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    FWIW: I have used a pair of those titanium Control Tech non-quick release skewers since 1999 with zero durability or flex problems. I am well over 200 lbs. and the fork is a Marz. Z-2 80 mm. travel BAM of the same vintage. If I install steel Shimano XT skewers I cannot notice any difference whatsoever in flex while riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Scary
    ...And my personal life is none of your concern...
    ok, your personal life is none of his concern, but you had the nerve to make the comment about his wife and child? Not cool man.

    Regardless of who is worng or right about 31.8 x 25.4/26.0, any one who is opinionated enough to get this up tight about it, needs to get off the computer, go for a ride, then have a few beers. Seriously guys, chill. If you like 31.8, cool, then ride it. If not, don't. I hardly think 25.4 will be extinct in the next couple of years, there are plenty of people, like DB, who swear by it.

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    Nice avatar

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    ok, your personal life is none of his concern, but you had the nerve to make the comment about his wife and child? Not cool man.
    Like that avatar Deadsexy. That's exactly what I was talking about with the man boobs further up in this thread. I'll bet I can get you and Scary a bulk rate with my surgeon. I think it will do wonders for your riding, but if you're comfortable in your current "form factor" then all the more power to you.
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