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    Are J & L Titanium Products Any Good ?

    J & L is a Chinese titanium manufacturer that has some products listed on ebay. Ti forks, bars, stems, etc. Has anyone ridden with J & L parts and are they decent ? I don't expect the quality would compare to talented welders from the likes of Moots, Litespeed, Merlin, etc.
    However, I wonder if they are solid enough for a 6'4", 220 lb xc rider.

    Also, anyone had any experience with Mosso ti products ?

    Thinking about some ti upgrades, but need to do it on a budget if at all so J & L and Mosso
    might be worth riding if they hold up.

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    Cool-blue Rhythm

    I had a pair of J&L gold ti spindles that snapped during a ride.
    They said they would replace themif I sent them back.
    I just got a small, beat up US Postal box in the mail the other
    day.
    No idea what it was.
    Opened it up and it was my broken spindle(s) :-0 !!!
    The was a postal sticker on it from where J&L are located d
    (somewhere in Asia.....cant recall at the moment)
    and it was stamped REFUSED :-0 ????
    I sent them away in 2011 !!!!!!!!!!
    I just found my PayPal statement for the tranaction
    and I plan on getting some answers from them.

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    There stuff really isn't all that light. I have a bar and stem from them ...nothing special.

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    As a side note - I bought a set of silver and gold ti Egg Beater spindles from them .
    I only had the problem with the gold set .
    The silver ones are still going strong .
    To their credit , they are no longer selling the gold ones and have agreed to send me a new set .
    AND..... when I told them that I no longer use the older style E/B's , moving up to E/B's 3s ,
    they said they make some for them and would send me a set of those to replace the broken ones .
    Great service !!! :-)

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    Just to report that earlier this year, I installed a pair of Ti spindles (J&L) on my eggbeater 2Ti. After a few months of usage, the pedal's needle bearings are wearing (grooving) the spindles out ! Not sure if this has to do with titanium quality or just plain titanium mechanical properties ...

    I won't take any chances of leaving them on, since the grooving could introduced stress concentration, leading to breakage of the spindles.

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