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    Does everyone understand that "porn" is an offensive word?

    I just thought that some of the younger posters in here might not know that yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDad
    I just thought that some of the younger posters in here might not know that yet.
    By definition, for some, the informal word PORN or in its formal context "pornography" or "pornographic" could be construed by some as being offensive, but in context on this forum I see no cause for offense.

    In my opinion what offends us, is indeed up to us, and in a general respect I would doubt the word or concept of porn would offend the majority of folk on MTBR.

    Trevor!

    I tend to visit MTBR at uni or at work from time to time. At least once a day I enter a post that contains "PORN" in its title. No doubt People must look at me and assume I am sick or perverted or something...

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    It's not the word that's offensive..

    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDad
    I just thought that some of the younger posters in here might not know that yet.

    it's what the word represents. In this case, porn is merely a euphemism for, I gather, flashy and explicit photos that induce bike part lust. I doubt that pics of expensive bike gear is offensive to anyone save, perhaps, some inviro-nazi prude.

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    Well not to all of us...

    3rd definition of pornography is presentation of lurid or sensational material...sounds like a typical bike magazine or website to me! I call my bike mags bike porn as do a lot of my friends, young and old, male and female. Come on, it's a word; words aren't offensive, people using them can be (as are people who prefer censorship to knowledge). And whatinhell does that have to do with a weight weenie forum?
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    Hmmm...

    Pornography:
    1. Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal.
    2. The presentation or production of this material.
    3. Lurid or sensational material
    No one finds the use of such a term offensive? Are we all so lost?
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    ... and if we just ... nope...

    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDad
    Pornography:
    1. Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal.
    2. The presentation or production of this material.
    3. Lurid or sensational material
    No one finds the use of such a term offensive? Are we all so lost?
    Sorry, I don't find the word offensive. And I speak for the youngsters here cause I'm probably the youngest, at 15, not sure tho.

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    I too find the term humorous and I don't think there's anything offensive in its application here. Its an analogy that bicycle parts cause sexual arousal (and don't they ), and it just funny. For what its worth I also agree with all of Dave said and think there is nothing wrong with pornography itself so maybe I'm just too liberal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDad
    Pornography:
    1. Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal.
    2. The presentation or production of this material.
    3. Lurid or sensational material
    No one finds the use of such a term offensive? Are we all so lost?
    Are you kidding me? Offensive? Lost?

    Offense is in the eye of the beholder I guess. What is there to get offended about anyhow?

    In this day in age I think there are other things to get offended by but not simplistic words like PORN.

    I don't even think the sexual reproductive organs really offend most people, so a mere word isn't going to either IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by divve
    .....Zonic is simply efficient. He doesn't waste time thinking about stuff he can do
    Very smart indeed!

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    No good Oh please...

    ...do we have to discuss this American double-moralism here ? How somebody in this forum is getting offended by a one word ??? Are there middle-aged red neck hillbillys or house-mom's swelling here or what ? I guess next we are starting to discuss about God/Allah/whoever who loves only Americans and how we conduct blasphemy when we comment something like "Oh-My-God! That fork is wicked!" blah blah blah

    First of all, this thread is soooo off-topic!

    In the USA people get offended because Ms. Jackson's breast bumps out in the Super Bowl show. In the rest of the world people laugh at this happening and also at the yanks who get offended so easily. Damn, the yanks get offended just about everything! At the same time breasts and other sexual stuff is shown almost everywhere from magazines to television... And like nobody's ever seen porn! Shouldn't we be more worried about innocent people dying in Iraq and Afghanistan ?

    Nothing against for you American bikers but I think that this is ridiculous! Let's just concentrate in biking, cool lightweight bikes and parts, PLEASE!

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    Trevor! Wrote:
    I tend to visit MTBR at uni or at work from time to time. At least once a day I enter a post that contains "PORN" in its title. No doubt People must look at me and assume I am sick or perverted or something...
    Well they wouldn't be wrong.... Aint we all sick

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    Its an analogy that bicycle parts cause sexual arousal (and don't they )
    SEE!!!

    Sorry guys just poking fun at those not so easily offended here (Aussies). I find it odd, how Americans can say the word "Porn" or "SEX" is offencive, when America is the capital of such pron and sex Not to mention the exicutions on TV and whatever else.... Come'on people it's just a word, it won't burn your eyes, or condem you to hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDad
    Pornography:
    1. Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal.
    2. The presentation or production of this material.
    3. Lurid or sensational material
    No one finds the use of such a term offensive? Are we all so lost?
    'Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal.'

    They are pictures of friggen bikes!! Whatever does it for you I guess....

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    If you find it offencive, then dont click on the links or come to the site. Its acceptable to use the word here (so sayeth the moderators) so whats the big deal? Did you know you can now use the F word on television (In the US I mean) if its not reffering to the actual act! This is simmilar to that. We use the word reffering to bikes, not actualy pornography.
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    not offensive at all dirtdad....

    Come on. Let's not get the FCC involved in here. Soon they will take the word "weenie" offensive. If you do not want to look at it, just turn it off or don't click on it. Hey dirtdad, lets take a look at your kids email and see what we find in there. I am sure there are some "porn" words in there and maybe lets take a look at some recent web sites he has visited. We live in a nation where we can choose what to say and look at. Lets keep it that way. Porn never killed anyone.

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    No good the moderator should move this thread to political/social/religious board

    Gee DirtDad - are you taking that "dad" thing too seriously or what? There are a host of reasons that "we" are "lost," but a bunch of gearheads using the term "porn" to refer to the bike stuff that we lust over is not one of them. On the other hand, the fact that you would choose to put negative energy into something that is so clearly positive is a good indicator that you are "lost."


    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDad
    Pornography:
    1. Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal.
    2. The presentation or production of this material.
    3. Lurid or sensational material
    No one finds the use of such a term offensive? Are we all so lost?
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    The word "porn" is used all the time in the newspaper ("Liberal politicians caught with child porn") and on the news, so I really don't think we should worry about this messageboard poisoning today's youth when they can easily get that elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDad
    Pornography:
    1. Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal.
    2. The presentation or production of this material.
    3. Lurid or sensational material
    No one finds the use of such a term offensive? Are we all so lost?
    I really hope this is a troll.

    Just because the definition of the word suggests something offensive it doesnt make the word itself offensive. More importantly, when you take it out of context (mainly this forum), it suggests something entirely different than what it is. Here, we are only talking about bike parts. Come on, it really gets me going to think about a brand new carbon crank oooooh or a custom rotor aaaah wow im starting to get worked up just thinking about it.

    Get a grip we could only hope that todays youth comes here for their "porn" and not the rest of the internet.

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    A quick lesson

    Just some facts/reminders/lessons. Pornography, real pornography, not the new slang term for pics, is disrespectful of women and it degrades them. It leads to violence against women. This is a well known fact, not up for discussion. Research it elsewhere if you need to.

    I realize the use of "porn" as slang for pics is a cultural internet trend, not just something happening on this board. It reflects a dangerous attitude and trend culture wide. Imagine if other terms like "rape" began to have an accepted slang use. It desensitizes us. I have a hard time sitting idly by while this happens.

    Does anyone else see the irony in the Ad Council ad that we all see here on mtbr that calls for us to stop violent boys from growing into violent men that perpertrate their violence against women? In part, I am responding to that.
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    My .02

    DirtDad -

    I'm going to assume (perhaps incorrectly), by your scripture reference that you're a Christian - great, so am I.

    What bothers me, is that it's precisely discussions like this that turn people off of Christianity.

    The more that 'Christians' run around telling people they're despicable, reprehensible, morally void people - the less they want anything to do with us, or what we believe.

    If something here offends you, leave. No one is here to discuss morality, they're here to discuss bikes.

    Rant over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDad
    Pornography:
    1. Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal.
    2. The presentation or production of this material.
    3. Lurid or sensational material
    No one finds the use of such a term offensive? Are we all so lost?
    You are confusing the subject with the word itself. If you want to be offended by pornography, that is reasonable (I guess). But why should you be offended by the word?

    Nazi's offend me. That doesn't mean I was offended by the "soup Nazi" on "Seinfeld".

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    Another quick lesson

    Living in a FREE society means that sometimes you will have to SEE and HEAR things that you may not agree with....period. I understand all of your points DD - but you must at least realize that your argument is riddled with generalizations, assumptions, and lack of respect for others intelligence as a whole. I don't think anyone here will argue that actual pornography is something that children should not see. But you are WAY grasping for a controversy when you try to twist a slang tag name we use for bike photographs into something more than what it is...it is a NON ISSUE...very very weak argument to say the least.

    IF you want to talk about the decline of western civilization and ACTUAL pornography - you may want to visit another forum - but I can at least tell you that you are WRONG on that front also.
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    [QUOTE=DirtDad I realize the use of "porn" as slang for pics is a cultural internet trend, not just something happening on this board. It reflects a dangerous attitude and trend culture wide. Imagine if other terms like "rape" began to have an accepted slang use. It desensitizes us. I have a hard time sitting idly by while this happens.[/QUOTE]

    Sadly, "rape" is already being used as slang - I work on a college campus, and get to hear how students got "raped" by a midterm all the time. It's especially sad in light of the increase in sexual assaults recently.

    However, I don't think the use of "porn" here is offensive, just humorous. What are bike magazines and catalogs but porn? Well lit, well posed glossy pictures and text, all trying to sell you something bigger, better, faster etc. Besides, the definition of pornography is much more subjective than that of rape. In the words of one judge, "I couldn't tell you, but I know it when I see it".
    I think the definition of lurid or sensational material is perfectly apt, and while the word may offend some, in the end it's merely a definition. If people were posting pics from drunkcyclist.com, that would be cause for alarm.

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    Yeah...and the History Channel should remove all reference to Nazi's, or else your kids are going to grow up to be Nazi's, right. And if anybody still uses the slang term "killer", they should stop, 'cause then everyone around them will be OK with killing. While we are at it, people should stop saying "sick", too, or else people will start getting sick.

    Pornography is the clinical term for "tittie mags" or "stroke books". "Porn" is shorthand for that, and is used on the news all the time. You are making a mountain out of a mole hill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDad
    I just thought that some of the younger posters in here might not know that yet.
    Does Dirtdad understand that offensive is in the eye of the beholder? Or the concept of subjectivity?
    I may find biblical quotes offensive, but understand that there are many who do not. Apparently, the "p" word is offensive to you. This doesn't make it offensive objectively, but subjectively.
    In otherwords, maybe you could stop trying to press your morality onto others here? Sadly, wars have been started over less.

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    Sorry DirtDad, but I don't see it that way...

    What I find far more offensive is the growing trend in the U.S., primarily fueled by the religious right, of censorship.

    You find the word "porn" offensive? That actually makes me laugh. The Janet Jackson spectacle and people like Howard Stern must really throw you for a loop.


    "Pornography, real pornography, not the new slang term for pics, is disrespectful of women and it degrades them. It leads to violence against women."

    That's a ridiculous statement. Pornography leads to violence against women? Sounds like you're spewing off some line you read in religious propaganda. I'd love to see what credible scientific journal that data came from.

    There is nothing pornographic about the human body. It is only today's society with its overly religious ethos that views it negatively. Frankly, I just don't understand it.

    Not to be overly political, but the heavy religious influence in the current White House administration is far more offensive to me.

    By the way, I'm the father of two young girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDad
    Just some facts/reminders/lessons. Pornography, real pornography, not the new slang term for pics, is disrespectful of women and it degrades them. It leads to violence against women. This is a well known fact, not up for discussion. Research it elsewhere if you need to.
    Wow, what a HOT topic (get it, hot, ey?)!!!

    Anyway, you can have your view on the use of word porn here but I can also think that describing bike parts as sexual objects is creative and humorous. Either way its a trivial thing and hardly a dangerous trend. Now, If you wish to change the society for better by getting rid of pornography I suggest you better start by changing human nature. Does describing bike pics as 'porn' cause violent boys to become violent men? No. Does actual pornography? No - but thats a matter for discussion in some other place, though I am sure it will erupt here anyway.

    I look forward to waking up tomorrow to see what be of this thread.
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    ", not the new slang term for pics, is disrespectful of women and it degrades them. It leads to violence against women."


    I want to know how "Pornography, real pornography" involving only men is "disrespectful of women "

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    I always thought porn was a substitute for eye candy. Pornography is the objectification of women, while we are glorifying, perhaps deifying, objects. (I would be concerned if we did the reverse and personalized our bikes and bike parts, for then our hobby turns to a fettish).

    So these bike parts are something that we lust after. Just as I don't think using the word "lust" trivializes, neither does porn in this context. Besides, taking this sensitivity to it's fullest, we shouldn't say things like "I love FSA" for fear of trivializing the concept of actual love.

    And anyway, porn really does fit the occasion, as porn is distinguished by three predominate features:
    1) the characters involved are extremely two dimensional
    2) the outrageous behaviours they engage in are treated as commonly accepted, normative
    3) their behaviours define their lives in that they are perceived to engage in them all the time (all day/night long, every day, anywhere, etc)

    Sounds like weight weenies to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDad
    Just some facts/reminders/lessons. Pornography, real pornography, not the new slang term for pics, is disrespectful of women and it degrades them. It leads to violence against women. This is a well known fact, not up for discussion. Research it elsewhere if you need to.

    I realize the use of "porn" as slang for pics is a cultural internet trend, not just something happening on this board. It reflects a dangerous attitude and trend culture wide. Imagine if other terms like "rape" began to have an accepted slang use. It desensitizes us. I have a hard time sitting idly by while this happens.

    Does anyone else see the irony in the Ad Council ad that we all see here on mtbr that calls for us to stop violent boys from growing into violent men that perpertrate their violence against women? In part, I am responding to that.

    Sorry, but will you please take your religious drivel somewhere else. I come here to read about bikes, not to hear people impose their religous and personal beliefs on others. Frankly as a Jew, I find your reference to the Bible in your sig line offensive. It presumes on your part that I wish to have Christian view pushed on me. Finally, I don't know why you believe you are some type of father figure, at 43 you are not old enough to be my father, nor the father of many others on this board.

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    P.S. Now I can get back to the Bike PORN.

    P.P.S. Have a nice birthday tommorrow Dirtdad.

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    Whats pornography







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    BTW, for those that don't know, Dirtdad sigline refers to the Scripture 2 Timothy Chapter 4, Script 7 which reads, "I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith". This is clearly shows his intent to push his religous beliefs (and since this is from the new testament, his Christian Beliefs) upon others. Very offensive in my book. If I wanted that I would go to "www.convertmetoachristian.com"

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    I think you make a legitimate point

    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDad
    Pornography:
    1. Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal.
    2. The presentation or production of this material.
    3. Lurid or sensational material
    No one finds the use of such a term offensive? Are we all so lost?
    As others have said, this is entirely OT and probably doesn't belong in this forum. But I see your point. Is it possible that some youngsters on this forum see the word 'porn' and don't realize that it's chief connotiation is sexually explicit? I suppose. ANd they certainly should be aware of that, so you have a point.

    But, as you've seen, people on these foums have very little patience for religious or moral talk. Probably reflective of society in general. But I agree with them because this is a mountainbike forum; I don't come here looking to discuss religion or politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDMC
    BTW, for those that don't know, Dirtdad sigline refers to the Scripture 2 Timothy Chapter 4, Script 7 which reads, "I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith". This is clearly shows his intent to push his religous beliefs (and since this is from the new testament, his Christian Beliefs) upon others. Very offensive in my book. If I wanted that I would go to "www.convertmetoachristian.com"

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    Really? Does it CLEARLY indicate that? Or is it possible that it is just a signature line? I find it offensive that you're offended by that.

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    Hold on a second...

    While I may not think that DirtDad's discussion was appropriate, he is MORE than entitled to have a scripture reference in his signature.

    If you're offended - don't look it up, and don't post it.

    The same freedom that allows you to use the terms you want, applies here.

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    Well, I'm kinda offended by you using "slave" in your profile.

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    ditto, very well said...

    i've got nothing to add...


    Quote Originally Posted by DeepWalletDave
    It is primarily in the United States, where pleasure is regulated as a means of controlling society and ensuring how violent we continue to be that generically speaking pornography and its word associations would be considered negative.

    Children are taught that visual depictions of people enjoying sexual pleasure is bad, yet it cannot be argued to the contrary that humans, both male and female equally so readily respond to visual stimulii. There is a beneficial, biological reason for this, so demonizing it runs contrary to biology.

    In spite of violent Westen culture supressing pleasure while promoting viewing llive murders on television, we make movies popular like Louis' Malle's Pretty Baby showing a 10 year old Brooke Shields with her genitalia shown, or The Blue Lagoon, a movie about children sexually pleasuring themselves and sexually pleasuring eachother a smash hit, all the while society telling children how bad it all is.

    No wonder they grow up to be violent and sexually dysfunctional...

    I for one find the metaphorical use of this term rather humorous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gofarther
    While I may not think that DirtDad's discussion was appropriate, he is MORE than entitled to have a scripture reference in his signature.

    If you're offended - don't look it up, and don't post it.

    The same freedom that allows you to use the terms you want, applies here.

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    Did I ever state that he was not entitled to have the scripture reference in his sig line? No. While I personally don't like references to scripture, I am a firm believer in individual liberty and freedom, including freedom to say what you please. Also, you state that I didn't have to go and look up the reference to the book 2 of Timothy, did it occur to you that I may not have to look it up? Just because I am a Jew, doesn't mean that I am automatically ignorant of the New Testament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDad
    I just thought that some of the younger posters in here might not know that yet.
    The word 'porn' is not equal to porn.

    It's like saying the word 'death' is tided to an actual person dying.

    Can we say nipple?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDad
    Just some facts/reminders/lessons. Pornography, real pornography, not the new slang term for pics, is disrespectful of women and it degrades them.
    Out of sensitivity to this issue, I have switched to only viewing pornography that degrades men and women at the same time.. Sometimes two men and one woman.

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    It's an euphimism

    nothing more....

    It seems the religous right is getting more involved in the realm of political correctness these days.

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    well...

    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDad
    I just thought that some of the younger posters in here might not know that yet.

    i personally like real porn, and i like carbon fiber porn. i think we should go a step further and do it....but females only please
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    Quote Originally Posted by vtwin996
    nothing more....

    It seems the religous right is getting more involved in the realm of political correctness these days.
    Don't give me that... you'll have just as many leftist women screaming that all sex is rape. Usually the short haired plaid shirt wearing crowd. This issue cuts both left and right.
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    Dude I am so lost

    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDad
    Pornography:
    1. Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal.
    2. The presentation or production of this material.
    3. Lurid or sensational material
    No one finds the use of such a term offensive? Are we all so lost?
    We should get you to define hump, ride, pound, mount, stick, poke, stab, jump, swing, screw, bonk, eat, munch, snack, chow, suck, finger, slide, rub, whip, beat, rod, meat, johnson, snake, chubby, stiffy, member, balls, nuts, bits, jewels, jugs, cones, balloons, lips, flap, hole, gash, slit... or any other word you like while you're at it.

    And lord help us if you ever use Lumpy's CrackWax or Dr. Zog's Sex Wax.

    True bike porn: drunkcyclist.com.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDad
    I just thought that some of the younger posters in here might not know that yet.
    Come on now, there's nothing offensive about the context of the word, this is a mtb weight forum Lighten up!!!

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    Why is this thread still going? Weve pretty much got our points across and now we are just being repetitious etc etc. No one is going to change their position here. PORN PORN PORN!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDad
    Just some facts/reminders/lessons. Pornography, real pornography, not the new slang term for pics, is disrespectful of women and it degrades them. It leads to violence against women. This is a well known fact, not up for discussion. Research it elsewhere if you need to.
    What about pornography between two men? Disrespectful to whom? Is pornography just for mens use, and thus disrespectful to women?

    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDad
    I realize the use of "porn" as slang for pics is a cultural internet trend, not just something happening on this board. It reflects a dangerous attitude and trend culture wide. Imagine if other terms like "rape" began to have an accepted slang use. It desensitizes us. I have a hard time sitting idly by while this happens.
    Dangerous. I would suspect you are taking a very strong view on this usage of Porn. One could fairly argue that there are other aspects of society that are more dangerous then the use of the word PORN.

    I have a hard time sitting idly while people get really concerned about things more insignificant then current affairs occurring around the world.

    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDad
    Does anyone else see the irony in the Ad Council ad that we all see here on mtbr that calls for us to stop violent boys from growing into violent men that perpertrate their violence against women? In part, I am responding to that.
    I detest this final statement ALOT. Ugh, Irony?

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    I'm 15 years old too and being in high school porn is the least of parents worries. The "sheltered" children always come out as the worst-thank god my parents never lied to me or forced religion upon me. "Porn" is not offensive and if you don't like it click somewhere else or turn off your computer. FCC SUCKS!!!!!!!!!

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    This Politically Correct STUFF isn't just the right

    First of all. I don't find the word PORN offensive. It is all based the relation to what is being conveyed. But, some complete leftist this side of communsim stated it is the religious right that wants sensorship Pullleeeeez. Fantastic examples of liberals doing the same:

    1) Some group (I might add liberal) wants to change how we reference a secondary hard drive and change the name. It is now called a "slave drive." Moo Shoo's Opinion - freakin nutts. Get a life.

    2) Homosexual lifestyles by preached to Girl Scouts. Wow, that is just as bad as teaching a specific religion. Moo Shoo's Opinion - freakin nutts. Keep what you do in your bedroom to yourself.

    Just a couple examples that it is not a conservative or liberal delimma. I for one believe completely in free speech. The first amendment. And, the second one too . And, I just get a kick outta the Euro/Canadian/Asia that thing they are all high mighty, lol.

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    long life for porn!!!!!

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    How do we explain a "Bush" in our White House?? n/m

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    bu they know what Ho, and snizzle means

    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDad
    I just thought that some of the younger posters in here might not know that yet.
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    mmmmm porn

    Hey man I like porn
    Bike porn is good
    Pornography mmmm naked chicks
    Dirt dad get a life man
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    I don't know what's funnier right now...

    1. That someone whined about the word porn.
    2. That someone whined about the word porn in THIS forum alone and not the other forums also. Shouldn't this kind of drivelling whining be for the passion forum, if anywhere?
    3. That so many people responded in the space of 24 hours. Tony Ellsworth doesn't get this
    many responses on mtbr in 24 hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeepWalletDave
    No more then you have a tendency to underthink things....
    Really now.

    Please tell me how I'm underthinking about whether the word "porn" as posted to describe bike parts on a mountain bike website is offensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by george_da_trog
    Usually the short haired plaid shirt wearing crowd. This issue cuts both left and right.
    I have short hair and sometimes wear plaid as well.

    I'm offended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zonic Man
    I have short hair and sometimes wear plaid as well.

    I'm offended.
    Is that you rosie o.?

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    Thread is locked now.

    This discussion can be discussed on the socio/political board now I think..

    (I was asked by concerned parties to lock or do something.)

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