Choosing a Carbon HardTail frame: '06 Scott Scale 10 vs. '08 S-Works
Five weeks ago I picked up a bare 2008 S-Works HT frame with warranty from a reputable shop. While finding components for it, I came across a pristine, low mileage, original, and fully built 2006 Scott Scale 10. I am debating buying the Scale 10 and selling the S-Works HT which would significantly reduce cost, effort and time. From the reviews I have found they both seem similar in weight, function, capability, quality and original price (Spesh seems to hold value better). I know I need to ride each to really know, but if components are equal, what are the advantages and disadvantages of these frames?
ps- Goal is a HT Wt Weenie to scream down singletrack, technical, short steep, and occasional rocky trails. I may use a Ritchey WCS rigid carbon fork.
The scale has full length cable housing. this adds weight, but I dont know what you want, light, or durable shifting.
The Scale is definatly a sweet bike, but I cannot attest to the sworks as I have never ridden one.
Either way, you getting a sweet bike that will be light and ride awesome ,but the question is, are you comfortable ridding a frame without a warranty, and is a lower price worth not picking your components?.
IMO, the s works is a better deal, the warranty is a big deal on something that expensive and picking your own parts and building is a lot of the fun of a new bike.
Dont wait, procrastinate now!
And with a carbon frame, a crash replacement deal that goes with a warranty might be more valuable than the warranty itself.
Sorry-but the Spesh is definitely heavier than a Scale.Even the '09 S-Works is close to 1200g!
Originally Posted by roadsterdoc
If you would have the possibility to throw a leg over both bikes i'm almost sure you would go with the Scott. Note: i was a hardcore Spesh rider for many, many years.I had several S-works bikes over the years but the handling of the Scott was leagues superior than the current S-Works back in 2002 when i tried the Scandium Scott Team Issue let alone when the Scale hit the market.
The Scale is still rated among the best frames in the business.
Nino- That is purely subjective opinion...but given your experience and the number of sensible posts of yours I have read, I will take it as gospel. Thanks!
What the ride is concerned you may be right (just try them though!) - but the weight of the Spesh is definitely higher.
Originally Posted by roadsterdoc
OK, I picked up the Scott as it seems there is no significant reason to choose one frame over the other so it really just came down to cost savings. I have a small amount of regret not building and riding the Spesh but the Scott feels fantastic and I saved a lot of cash. Last night I posted the S-Works CF HT on ebay!
Now I want to lighten up the Scott (which is all original) and I am first considering wheels, fork and cranks. Further recommendations appreciated.
2006 Scott Scale 10:
Fork Brand & Model: Fox F80X, 80mm travel
Handlebar Ritchey WCS Carbon
Handlebar Extensions Unspecified
Handlebar Stem Ritchey WCS
Headset 1 1/8" integrated FSA 9 alloy
Brakeset: Avid Juicy Carbon brakes, Avid Juicy Carbon levers
Shift Levers SRAM X.0 Trigger
Front Derailleur Shimano XTR
Rear Derailleur SRAM X.0 Carbon
Crankset Shimano XTR M960, 22/32/44 teeth
Pedals Shimano PD-M540 SPD
Bottom Bracket Shimano XTR
BB Shell Width Unspecified
Rear Cogs 9-speed, 11 - 32 teeth
Chain Shimano CN-HG93, 1/2 x 3/32"
Seatpost Ritchey WCS Carbon
Saddle Selle Italia SLR XP
Hubs Front: DT Swiss Disc, Rear: DT 240S Disc
Rims Front: Mavic XM 819, Rear: Mavic XM-819 Disc, 28-hole
Tires 26 x 2.00" Scott OXYD 120TPI Kevlar UST
Spoke Brand DT Swiss stainless steel, double-butted